Used to get the headaches with no visuals, but wearing the correct glasses
and keeping my screen clean seems to have solved that,
but
since then, like Dwight, I have had a couple of attacks of the "lightening
lines" and blurred vision. The eye hospital
tell me that this is an "ocular migraine"
Hi
I need to make room for new goodies. So I'm offering two Alphas:
* AlphaServer 2100 5/300
- Untested by me, good physical appearance.
* DEC AXP 4000
- Was running when I picked it up.
http://www.pdp8.se/bild/sthlm_haul/axps.jpg
I can ship them, the probably need to go on a pallet.
I have tried the log the foods I eat and all the other routines
to find a cure... was even willing to give up lobster if that was a
trigger.
Alas - so far, no solve. Ed#
In a message dated 9/25/2015 12:22:15 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
dave.g4...@gmail.com writes:
Used to
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: Paul Anderson
Sent: Friday, September 25, 2015 8:17 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ; cct...@vax-11.org
Subject: RL01, RL02, RK06, RK07 cable differences
Does anyone have both of these that I can pick their brains?
Thanks, Paul
>
> Does anyone have both of these that I can pick their brains?
Yes.
The RK06/07 cable connects all pins. The RL01/02 one connects only those used
by the RL drives. I doubt the characteristic impedance is different as the
terminators
are the same.
-tony
>> And I'd still have to write a disassembler.
If someone can point me at the assembly and machine language specs for
the thing, I can add it to my disassembler
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On Thu, 24 Sep 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 09/24/2015 04:30 PM, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
IMHO, you want to buy at one generation below the current max
capacity on the assumption that they ironed out the bugs on that
one.
So, if you were to move up from the 500GB SATA drives to the "next
g
Just stumbled across this. I don't know what more to the story there is.
http://kremlin.enterprises/post/129364443055/your-code-is-so-bad-we-had-to-make-etclocal
--
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> On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
>> ...
>> I'm getting reasonable results with 4bpp indexed color .pngs
>
> Several RSX manuals have important color coding. Some manuals have both
> black, red and blue text. Others have sections with a light red or gray
> background.
>
He's going to find it rough going in trying to get the machines running
with new/empty disks. :-( It's one
of the fears that I have for my 3620 and 3640's in that I'd like to have
replacement disks but without the
manufacturing mojo, there's no way to put Genera and the bootstrap and
uCode on
On 9/25/2015 7:24 AM, tony duell wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have both of these that I can pick their brains?
>
> Yes.
>
> The RK06/07 cable connects all pins. The RL01/02 one connects only those used
> by the RL drives. I doubt the characteristic impedance is different as the
> terminators
> are t
Someplace in my piles of stuff, I may have an EPROM '89. At least I
think it was an 89.
If I find it, your welcome to it Eric.
Dwight
from the vintage-computer list
http://www.vintage-computer.com/vcforum/showthread.php?49260-SCSI2SD-microSD-bundles-in-stock-and-ready-to-ship-from-USA
http://www.ebay.com/itm/191700123328
On 9/24/15 8:45 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 8:51 PM, dwight wrote:
You just may have to write your own.
Most don't even know what a 8089 is.
That's looking likely.
What I/O board are you trying to figure out, Eric?
A bunch of different manufacturers early Multibus Winches
> From: Jerome H. Fine
> I have ... some PDP-11 hardware manuals, but probably most are already
> in PDF files at bitsavers.
Any chance you could check to see if you have something that's not online?
If you have more than a few, you probably do have some that aren't online.
If you wh
On 9/25/15 9:57 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
If you whip up a list of what you've got, I'd be happy to check it for you.
You REALLY want to check what Alan Frisbie has done this past year before
spending
a lot of time on this. I see in alt.sys.pdp11 that he just listed an RT 5.6
manual
set on eB
>
> > The RK06/07 cable connects all pins. The RL01/02 one connects only those
> > used
> > by the RL drives. I doubt the characteristic impedance is different as the
> > terminators
> > are the same.
> >
> > -tony
>
> Actually, the terminators for the RL and RK06/07 drives are *identical*,
>
On 9/24/15 11:16 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
What is the best way to proceed, I can make an inventory and crosscheck
with what is on bitsavers. After that I can put things in box if you
want to pay for shipping, I'm afraid I have no means or time to scan.
Sounds good. Shipping would be to Mo
I would call that like ... a frustratingly nice score, LOL. Lots of
Symbolics equipment saved which is a huge plus, but if it were me, I'd
rather have one Ivory machine that ran, versus a whole pallet of 3620s and
3640s with bad drives ... it'll be interesting to see if he's ever able to
get one of
Very nice looking set of DEC 4000 machines! I'd definitely be tempted to
make an offer on one of they were in the US...
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Pontus Pihlgren
wrote:
> Hi
>
> I need to make room for new goodies. So I'm offering two Alphas:
>
> * AlphaServer 2100 5/300
>
Out of curiousity, what is your post area code, I'm curious what
shipping would amount to.
/P
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:18:22AM -0400, Sean Caron wrote:
> Very nice looking set of DEC 4000 machines! I'd definitely be tempted to
> make an offer on one of they were in the US...
>
> Best,
>
> Se
Hi Pontus,
I'm in Ypsilanti, MI 48198 if you want to use that as a data point ... I
suppose I'd be curious, too (although certainly out of my budget).
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Pontus Pihlgren
wrote:
> Out of curiousity, what is your post area code, I'm curious what
> ship
On 9/25/2015 12:24 PM, tony duell wrote:
>>
>>> The RK06/07 cable connects all pins. The RL01/02 one connects only those
>>> used
>>> by the RL drives. I doubt the characteristic impedance is different as the
>>> terminators
>>> are the same.
>>>
>>> -tony
>
>
>>
>> Actually, the terminators fo
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Sean Caron wrote:
> I would call that like ... a frustratingly nice score, LOL. Lots of
> Symbolics equipment saved which is a huge plus, but if it were me, I'd
> rather have one Ivory machine that ran, versus a whole pallet of 3620s and
> 3640s with bad drives ..
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 7:44 AM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
> He's going to find it rough going in trying to get the machines running
> with new/empty disks. :-( It's one
> of the fears that I have for my 3620 and 3640's in that I'd like to have
> replacement disks but without the
> manufacturing moj
I am currently sorting things out after a house move last year and getting my
PDP11s back
together. Unfortuantely there was some damage in the move [1] and I am
currently looking for
a source for the following :
1) 2 off the small screw-down feet used on the outriggers of the H960 rack. Not
th
Thanks for the feedback everyone.
The 17 class # should be the type of wire used in the cable, so maybe the
-00 ans -01 is the difference .
I'm just trying to sure weather or not the RL and RK cables are
interchangeable. Sounds like the RK might work on the RL, but not the other
way.
I have plas
On 2015-09-25 16:15, Paul Koning wrote:
On Sep 24, 2015, at 6:12 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
...
I'm getting reasonable results with 4bpp indexed color .pngs
Several RSX manuals have important color coding. Some manuals have both black,
red and blue text. Others have sections with a light
On 09/25/2015 09:56 AM, Al Kossow wrote:
What I/O board are you trying to figure out, Eric? A bunch of
different manufacturers early Multibus Winchester controller boards
used them.
The 8089 was a good idea but badly timed and terribly underpowered. 2
channels of DMA, while a plain old 8257/
On 09/25/2015 07:44 AM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
He's going to find it rough going in trying to get the machines
running with new/empty disks. :-( It's one of the fears that I have
for my 3620 and 3640's in that I'd like to have replacement disks but
without the manufacturing mojo, there's no way t
Mouse wrote:
> >> And I'd still have to write a disassembler.
>
> If someone can point me at the assembly and machine language specs for
> the thing, I can add it to my disassembler
>
> /~\ The ASCII Mouse
> \ / Ribbon Campaign
> X Against HTML mo...@
On 9/25/2015 11:23 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
...so how fast will one of those run FORTRAN?
(Ducking and running for cover...)
Possibly as fast as it runs Forth or Perl. Two other write only languages.
I like Lisp, but it still is write only to my eye. I have to really
work over the listing
MAME has an emulator and a disassembler since the Roland MT-32 uses this chip.
David
> On Sep 25, 2015, at 2:40 PM, Holm Tiffe wrote:
>
> Mouse wrote:
>
And I'd still have to write a disassembler.
>>
>> If someone can point me at the assembly and machine language specs for
>> the thing,
below...
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 1:00 PM, wrote:
> - Forwarded message --
> From: Chuck Guzis
>
> http://www.eah-jena.de/~kleine/history/languages/ansi-x3dot9
> -1966-Fortran66.pdf
>
> The surprising thing is how spare the ANSI document is: 36 pages,
> including appendices.
>
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Josh Dersch wrote:
A colleague of mine and I tested David Gesswein's MFM emulator (
http://www.pdp8.net/mfm/mfm.shtml) in his 3620; it was able to capture a
disk image from the 3620's MFM disk and successfully boot Genera from the
image. So there is a solution,
On 09/25/2015 12:33 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
"Fortran 2015 is currently 617 pages and will go some more before
publication"
It does make one curious to ask if *any* language has ever had a smaller
manual/specification than any previous version.
If the answer is "no", then we must have a new "l
On 2015-09-25 3:56 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 09/25/2015 12:33 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
"Fortran 2015 is currently 617 pages and will go some more before
publication"
It does make one curious to ask if *any* language has ever had a smaller
manual/specification than any previous version.
Wasn't
On 9/25/2015 1:56 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 09/25/2015 12:33 PM, Clem Cole wrote:
"Fortran 2015 is currently 617 pages and will go some more before
publication"
It does make one curious to ask if *any* language has ever had a smaller
manual/specification than any previous version.
If the an
It's a busy life nowadays but never too busy to kit out a newly-acquired
Amstrad CPC6128.
http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2015-09-24-amstrad6128-acquire-fix-and-stockup.htm
for those who might be interested.
It's the first time I've played with those 3 inch disks.
Tez
On 9/25/15 11:06 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
But I seriously would like to OCR the manuals
WHICH manuals are you complaining about?
I have been going back and applying OCR to the ones on bitsavers.
Are there some in particular that you have a problem with?
On 9/25/15 11:23 AM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
...so how fast will one of those run FORTRAN?
as fast as their owners needed to.
> ...so how fast will one of those run FORTRAN?
The determined Real Programmer can write FORTRAN programs in any language. :)
But LISP /is/ pushing the limits of that …
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 11:33:59PM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 09/24/2015 04:30 PM, Alexander Schreiber wrote:
>
> >IMHO, you want to buy at one generation below the current max
> >capacity on the assumption that they ironed out the bugs on that
> >one.
>
> So, if you were to move up from the
On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 06:31:46PM -0600, ben wrote:
> On 9/24/2015 6:16 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
>
> >Word on the street is stay away from WD for the near future. They've had
> >massive
> >QC problems.
> >
> I wonder what is happening in the clouds?
They pay very close attention and are _very_ picky
Not sure why you have VARCHARs for primary keys, why not use the
conventional auto-increment int so you can dispense with
the LastGeneratedArtifactID table.
Because my artifact ID's are not always just numbers. In some cases
they may already be marked on an artifact (though typically not for
On 9/25/2015 1:00 PM, Paul Anderson wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback everyone.
>
> The 17 class # should be the type of wire used in the cable, so maybe the
> -00 ans -01 is the difference .
>
That would surprise me. That last two digit suffix is typically a revision.
> I'm just trying to sure
On 09/25/2015 01:25 PM, ben wrote:
Does the include the source code too?
Source code to what? The compiler? The run-time? Nowhere does any
specification that I'm aware of state that there has to be either. Just
a human/robot/monkey following the rules laid down in the specification.
--
> From: tony duell
> 2 of said feet got bent at right-angles (!)
Hammer them straight, and clean up the threads with a die. Those outriggers
are unobtainium, so I can't imagine the feet are much better.
> switch mechanisms for the PDP11/45 front panel. I have the toggles
> (thank
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 01:00:32PM -0500, Paul Anderson wrote:
>I'm just trying to sure weather or not the RL and RK cables are
>interchangeable. Sounds like the RK might work on the RL, but not the other
>way.
That matches my understanding (I used to run both). They definitely
don't interchange
Boot strapping a machine isn't impossible. It may be difficult but not
impossible.
I boot strapped a IMSAI with a "DigitalSystems" disk drive and controller.
I'll admit I did know 8080 code but I had to start from scratch on the
disk controller.
No nice little WD controller chip to start with, ju
I'm sorry, I usually try and keep it together on this list.
Dwight- your post is a shitpost.
(http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shit+Posting)
I'm not gonna delve into details, but the Symbolics machines have a
substantial number of unique challenges going for them. It's not as if non
> On Sep 24, 2015, at 22:20 , devin davison wrote:
>
> I had the machine fired up for an hour or two, i was messing with the front
> panel when i heard a fizzing sound followed by a burning smell.
Was it a burning paper smell, or some other kind of burning? If it was a
burning paper smell, the
> From: ian.fin...@gmail.com
>
> I'm sorry, I usually try and keep it together on this list.
> Dwight- your post is a shitpost.
>
> (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Shit+Posting)
>
> I'm not gonna delve into details, but the Symbolics machines have a
> substantial number of uniq
On 9/25/15 4:43 PM, dwight wrote:
Boot strapping a machine isn't impossible. It may be difficult but not
impossible.
I boot strapped a IMSAI with a "DigitalSystems" disk drive and controller.
I'll admit I did know 8080 code but I had to start from scratch on the
disk controller.
No nice little
On 9/25/2015 4:03 PM, m...@markesystems.com wrote:
>
>>> Another thing, although MySQL is fine but for this I think SQLite
>>> might be a better choice of db. Its access methods are all in-process
>>> ie. no external
>>> dbms service to bother with, just a library to link in and the
>>> physical
I have a BA11K power supply out of a pdp 11/34 that has frozen up fans.
They are frozen up pretty bad. I heard from another list member here they
are repairable, any advice on how to do so?
--Devin
Replace with same size and voltage fans assuming you are getting enough
power to the fans.I suggest replace with new same spec fans don't try
to fix old worn out fan. Vital to keep power cool with a good set of
fans. Easy to remove, log for hinged cover.
Bill
Bill Degnan
twitter: billdeg
vi
fre 2015-09-25 klockan 11:18 -0400 skrev Sean Caron:
> Very nice looking set of DEC 4000 machines! I'd definitely be tempted
> to
> make an offer on one of they were in the US...
>
> Best,
>
Pontus Pihlgren
Rasby-Hammarby
755 96 Uppsala
Sweden
It isn't that far to Arlanda.
The DEC fans that are now a few decades past end of life the bearing wear out.
Nemonix Engineering has made (new not refurbished) fans that are sealed so they
do not dry out. Something to keep in mind - one of the things I remember was
that as the fan slows down (prior to full death) since the
Very nice, thank you! That DPS-6 page wasn't kidding when they said the
boards were on the large side! Very interesting; they definitely have their
own unique style about them ... they really liked to use daugherboards!
That memory expansion card is sort of unusual. As is the edge connector for
the
The WDC REs are not bad drives at all but IMO Hitachi Ultrastar is the best
line going right now. I have been working with them for some time from 0.5T
through 3T under very high duty cycle and they are fairly bulletproof. The
REs will do the work, but I have seen higher failure rates on them right
Er, sorry, HDAs, not HBAs :O
Best,
Sean
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 6:55 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
> The WDC REs are not bad drives at all but IMO Hitachi Ultrastar is the
> best line going right now. I have been working with them for some time from
> 0.5T through 3T under very high duty cycle and the
The "wasn't" was a hint to indicate that the "OS" for the purpose of this
conversation - actually the disklabel and FEP code- was never available or
intended to be loaded outside of a factory / support environment.
For all I know, the disk controller may require special microcode to be
able to wri
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 06:55:02PM -0400, Sean Caron wrote:
> since the old Quantum Bigfoot
There's no need to swear :-)
mcl
On 09/25/2015 04:48 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: tony duell
> 2 of said feet got bent at right-angles (!)
Hammer them straight, and clean up the threads with a die. Those outriggers
are unobtainium, so I can't imagine the feet are much better.
Umm, actually, there is a large indu
On 09/25/2015 07:04 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 06:55:02PM -0400, Sean Caron wrote:
since the old Quantum Bigfoot
There's no need to swear :-)
I know it's strange, but I still have a couple of systems that
occasionally get used for some legacy bit of hardware or another
On 09/25/2015 03:45 PM, devin davison wrote:
I have a BA11K power supply out of a pdp 11/34 that has frozen up fans.
They are frozen up pretty bad. I heard from another list member here they
are repairable, any advice on how to do so?
--Devin
Generally, you can remove a snap ring and pull out s
On 9/25/15 12:50 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
Very nice, thank you!
No problem at all!
That DPS-6 page wasn't kidding when they said the
boards were on the large side! Very interesting; they definitely have their
own unique style about them ... they really liked to use daugherboards!
That memory e
I have the following systems presently for sale:
IMSAI 8080
http://vintagetech.com/sales/IMSAI%208080/
Canon Cat
http://vintagetech.com/sales/Canon%20Cat/
PDP 11/05
http://vintagetech.com/sales/Big%20Iron/PDP%2011-05.JPG
Heathkit H11
http://vintagetech.com/sales/Heathkit%20H11/
Polymorphic Sy
> From: ian.fin...@gmail.com
>>
> The "wasn't" was a hint to indicate that the "OS" for the purpose of this
> conversation - actually the disklabel and FEP code- was never available or
> intended to be loaded outside of a factory / support environment.
>
> For all I know, the disk controller may
>Al Kossow wrote:
>On 9/25/15 9:57 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
If you whip up a list of what you've got, I'd be happy to check it
for you.
You REALLY want to check what Alan Frisbie has done this past year
before spending
a lot of time on this. I see in alt.sys.pdp11 that he just listed an
RT
On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 11:05:42PM +0200, Stefan Skoglund (lokal användare)
wrote:
>
> Pontus Pihlgren
> Rasby-Hammarby
> 755 96 Uppsala
> Sweden
>
> It isn't that far to Arlanda.
Nope, 40 minutes drive or so.
/P
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