Re: Sign magnitude, one's complement, two's complement

2015-09-03 Thread Jeff Woolsey
This isn't quite the way I remember the CMU instructions working. Nor is it exactly how I've implemented them in my emulator. >Another oddball thing was then then-new Cyber 72/73 CMU. An interesting >beast, but not present on the 74. Presumably because an instack loop could move data faster.

Re: Multitech MicroProfessor

2015-09-03 Thread Wouter de Waal
Possibly a long shot since I think the MPF was only a UK/Europe thing but At least one made it to South Africa. But no, I have neither the expansion board nor the manual I'm afraid. W

Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread simon
Hi all. is there a list of equivalents for DEC ic's? I've made a mistake in attaching our BA-8 to the PDP8/f and twisted the ribbon cable connecting connector C and D. some magic smoke came loose and there are a few chips broken . :-( by comparing the signals on those connectors, I made a

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 03/09/2015 09:05, simon wrote: is there a list of equivalents for DEC ic's? I've made a mistake in attaching our BA-8 to the PDP8/f and twisted the ribbon cable connecting connector C and D. some magic smoke came loose and there are a few chips broken . :-( Ow. I don't have a list, but I

Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread Vlad Stamate
While I was trying to read the ROM in my 9121 for Eric Smith I found out that my Wellon VP-280 could not do it (it could not recognize it and only read FF FF FF FF). I could use it however to dump the ROM of an IBM PS2 that I cannot boot anymore (so it is not entirely useless). So I am asking what

Re: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread william degnan
You may know all of this but just in case ...Assuming you have reader that can detect ROM type and compatible with ROM you are trying to read. May be jumper change required? For example my Logical Systems Shooter has a different jumper thay must be installed for each EPROM type. Bill Degnan twit

Re: MEM11 Status Update

2015-09-03 Thread Jay jaeger
RK05 would be suitable Guy Sotomayor wrote: > > >On 9/2/15 8:42 AM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 11:39 AM, Jay Jaeger wrote: >> >>> On 9/1/2015 10:01 AM, Ethan Dicks wrote: > run Unix V1 I am very interested in the MEM11 for this exact reason. I have a >>>

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread Kyle Owen
Here's what I did to replace a broken 8235 before I found an exact replacement. http://imgur.com/a/QVRLs Kyle

Re: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread John Robertson
On 09/03/2015 4:56 AM, Vlad Stamate wrote: While I was trying to read the ROM in my 9121 for Eric Smith I found out that my Wellon VP-280 could not do it (it could not recognize it and only read FF FF FF FF). I could use it however to dump the ROM of an IBM PS2 that I cannot boot anymore (so it i

OmniUSB - further boards to make

2015-09-03 Thread Philipp Hachtmann
Hi folks, as you might remember I made about 20 OmniUSB Omnibus to USB adapters. Since a few month they're all sold. The last days I got some inquiries for more. So I think of making a new batch. As my board supplier has doubled (It was so cheap before..!) the price for gold plated contact P

Re: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 07:56 AM 9/3/2015, Vlad Stamate wrote: >So I am asking what you all use to dump various ROMs from vintage >PCs/peripherals/etc? For 1980s ROMs I still use the Serial EPROM Programmer published in BYTE by Steve Ciacia in the mid-80s. Dale H. Cook, Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA Osborne 1 / Kaypro 4-8

Re: OmniUSB - further boards to make

2015-09-03 Thread Eric Smith
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Philipp Hachtmann wrote: > As my board supplier has doubled (It was so cheap before..!) the price for > gold plated contact PCBs, If you don't mind sharing, which supplier is it? Is the connector plating hard gold over nickel? How many microns (or micro-inches) o

Re: Serial Disk Server to PDP-8/A

2015-09-03 Thread Philipp Hachtmann
Haha, it's down for lack of articles. See my other post :-) Von meinem iPhone gesendet > Am 02.09.2015 um 22:57 schrieb Jay West : > > And the online store is apparently "down for maintenance" :\ > > -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 03/09/2015 14:52, Kyle Owen wrote: Here's what I did to replace a broken 8235 before I found an exact replacement. http://imgur.com/a/QVRLs Impressive! -- Pete Pete Turnbull

Re: IBM 1620

2015-09-03 Thread Mike Ross
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Lyle Bickley wrote: > On Thu, 27 Aug 2015 14:28:30 -0500 > Ben Sinclair wrote: > >> The CHM has a bit of information, and links to three other 1620's that >> they know about: >> http://www.computerhistory.org/projects/ibm_1620/ibm1620/ >> >> From what I've been re

RE: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread Marc Verdiell
I was going to ask a similar question here, and I am sure it has been asked before. I do have a HP 82901 and a HP 9121 but I am not equipped to read ROMs, so I can't really help yet. Plus I will soon need the ability to burn ROMs for my HP 85 and HP 1000. Not only the standard 24 pin ROMs but the

RE: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread dwight
Some ROM don't have the same enables as 2716 or other EPROMs. I usually make up a header that I ensure that the programming voltage can't get to the ROM and I make high low switches for the various select lines. Then I use a standard eprom programmer to read ROMs. I could make something with an Ard

RE: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread Jay West
Marc wrote HP 1000. Not only the standard 24 pin ROMs but the small 14 or 16 pin bootloader ROMs that Jay showed me at VCF. What would be a good ROM programmer that could read and write these of older HP equipment ROMs? --- The Data I/O 29B works perfectly for those old fusable link p

RE: Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread dwight
A pal could have worked as well. Dwight

For sale: Random S-100 stuff (Seattle, WA)

2015-09-03 Thread Josh Dersch
I'm doing a bit of cleaning out of random things I don't use much anymore; hopefully these can find a good home. Make an offer on these, I'd prefer local pickup (for the VDP-80 I require it, it's just too large/heavy/fragile to trust with shipping) near Seattle. Thanks, Josh Here's what I h

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/03/2015 08:49 PM, dwight wrote: A pal could have worked as well. Dwight A GAL should also be useful--and maybe a bit more flexible. To emulate the OC outputs, one can simply manipulate the output enable so that a '1' output is High-Z and '0' is, well, '0'. I believe individual oput

Possible road trip....Illnois, Canada, Maine and back

2015-09-03 Thread Paul Anderson
I'm looking into a road trip from Champaign to Maine via Indy, Detroit, Windsor, Niagra Falls, Buffalo or 1000 Islands, Syracuse to Boston area, and up to Maine. Not sure about the return Route. I'll be leaving late Sep or early Oct. I have talked to a few list members about dropping off/picking

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread Stephen Lafferty
Hi Simon, As others have implied, the DEC8235 is a Signetics 8235N. It's available from obsolete part distributors. A quick search turns up this source: http://www.4starelectronics.com/part_detail/8235N.html While the RFQ instead of a price is bad news in some places, I've had good results wi

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread Sue Skonetski
Dear Wayne, If anything comes up from Nemonix let me know and I will see what I can do. Since I work for neither company I can volunteer some time for Nemonix as well. I am going to post the link to the Nemonix DSSI link. Sue > On Sep 3, 2015, at 3:31 PM, Stephen Lafferty wrote: > > Hi Si

Re: Dec 8235 IC?

2015-09-03 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 03/09/2015 20:31, Stephen Lafferty wrote: --- Thought I had a longer list somewhere but this short list is what I find at the moment: I think you'll find a 380 and a 384 are not the same :-) But the 8270/8271 substitutions by 74178/74179 seem to match and are good to know. A leading additi

Re: OmniUSB - further boards to make

2015-09-03 Thread Sean Caron
My dad shops out prototype PCB manufacturing to a firm called Omnitrace ( http://www.pcb4u.com). He sends them layouts and they send back bare boards which he stuffs in the lab ... He says the price is the best he's found, there's no minimum run size (not sure on the plated edge connectors, though)

Re: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread Eric Smith
On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Vlad Stamate wrote: > I am not sure about the part number it was under the sticker with the > ROM version (which btw was 09121 15510 REV A) and I put it back into > the unit. The PCA silkscreen diagram in the service manual shows F2364, which is an 8Kx8 masked ROM.

Re: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread Vlad Stamate
On 3 September 2015 at 10:15, John Robertson wrote: > Some of the early ROMs had extra voltages and unusual select logic and for > those you either need to make an adapter or get an ancient Eprom programmer > to be able to read them. > > I use Data I/O 29B with a Unipak for most of my old timers,

Re: 'New' PDP-11 prints

2015-09-03 Thread steve shumaker
On 9/2/2015 9:51 PM, tony duell wrote: "FMPS" is.?"_ _ print set"? Field Maintenance Print Set -tony Thanks! I've seen the term before but never saw it defined. Very little experience with the pdp docs environment. These are specifically defined sets of diagrams and

Re: 'New' PDP-11 prints

2015-09-03 Thread Eric Smith
>> Field Maintenance Print Set On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 6:39 PM, steve shumaker wrote: > These are specifically defined > sets of diagrams and/or schematics for a particular part/module/assembly? Sometimes a module, sometimes an assembly, sometimes an entire computer or computer system. Some FMPS

Re: Sign magnitude, one's complement, two's complement

2015-09-03 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 09/02/2015 11:05 PM, Jeff Woolsey wrote: This isn't quite the way I remember the CMU instructions working. Nor is it exactly how I've implemented them in my emulator. Sorry that my explanation was scrambled with a few blown synapses. I'll try again. CMU was implemented in the lower Cyber

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

2015-09-03 Thread Holm Tiffe
Holm Tiffe wrote: > Since the capacity of 2x RF31 and 1x RF71 disks is a little bit low > for VMS with some compilersi (~400MB every disk), I've looked for a bigger > disk, at least for the sytem itself. (I've already relocated the pagefile > to the 2nd disk). > Ok, there are RF73 available at eba

Re: Reading ROMs

2015-09-03 Thread John Robertson
On 09/03/2015 8:45 PM, Jay West wrote: Marc wrote HP 1000. Not only the standard 24 pin ROMs but the small 14 or 16 pin bootloader ROMs that Jay showed me at VCF. What would be a good ROM programmer that could read and write these of older HP equipment ROMs? --- The Data I/O 29B wor

Re: Problem with RF73 DSSI disk

2015-09-03 Thread Ethan Dicks
On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 2:01 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote: > Hmm.. I see, I must be the only one that has ever seen a DSSI disk... > > Thanks to all that haven't answered. Sorry I can't help. I own no DSSI gear, never had to fix it, and from your well-written description of the problem, clearly know far