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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:23:06 -0500
Subject: Re: HP 5480A, or, obscure HP instruments / was Re: More on manuals
plus rescue
On 8/22/2015 8:14 AM, Tothwolf wrote:
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> It only helps a little though and when eBay
> On Aug 22, 2015, at 10:31 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
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> On 08/22/2015 06:26 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
> than the usual rule).
>>>
>>> I recall the "integer multiply" feature (i.e. optional) available
>>> on the 6000. IXi Xj*Xk, but it didn't provide any more precision
>>> than the usual unnormali
just noticed this
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.announce/23246/match=gmane+comp+hardware+vintage
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The new
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 07:38:25 -0700
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> To: gene...@classiccmp.org; classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: FYI gmane cctalk group
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> just noticed this
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> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.announce/23246/match=gmane+comp+hardw
That means they are copying the list without permission.
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of dwight
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:22 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: RE: FYI gmane cctalk group
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Hi,
I've managed to relaocate the pagefile.sys of my VMS7.3 to the secondary
disk disk1$dia1 because of space considerations of the first disk (380MB
total, free blocks 228672 now).
I've seen complaints of the system that the disk wasn't properly dismounted
after each reboot and would be rebuild.
On 08/21/2015 08:08 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 15 August 2015 at 13:03, Liam Proven wrote:
http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683
Apologies if this is old news...
Some pictures, from sun-rescue:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/albums/72157657277241785/page1
I'm curious,
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes
wrote:
> On 08/21/2015 08:08 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
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>> On 15 August 2015 at 13:03, Liam Proven wrote:
>>
>>> http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683
>>>
>>> Apologies if this is old news...
>>>
>>
>>
>> Some pictures, from sun-rescue:
>>
>> htt
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Jason Scott wrote:
>>> I'm curious, what percentage of thier stock was saved?
>
> If you go by "unique manuals", 95-99%.
> If you go by "total number of manuals, including duplicates", probably
> 25-30%.
Heroic!
-ethan
> If you're talking about rattle-can painting, I can believe that.
>
> But there's painting using professional spray gear, as well as powder-
> coating. Rattle-can was never intended as anything but an "any idiot
> can do it" proposition.
>
Hi Chuck,
Actually I was talking about professional
Holm Tiffe wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I've managed to relaocate the pagefile.sys of my VMS7.3 to the secondary
> disk disk1$dia1 because of space considerations of the first disk (380MB
> total, free blocks 228672 now).
>
> I've seen complaints of the system that the disk wasn't properly dismounted
> after e
I posted this about a week or so ago.
I bought a teletype in Elkorn, Wisconsin and need a volunteer to help with the
shipping;
Take it off the pedestal;
Put the shipping bolt in the printer;
Watch craters and freighters, that they have plenty of foam to cushion the unit.
I will pay you for this
> Actually I was talking about professional spray gear in a vented hood. I
> agree spray can is definitely a non-starter but so is powder coating for most
> people. My point was in the general hobbyist community most of us have access
> to spray cans or at best a spray gun. A few of us may have
On 08/24/2015 11:37 AM, Ali wrote:
I was working on a Sharp brand tabletop copier. I was surprised to find
that the thing was "painted" with a very fine (almost like fine sand)
texture. So there are surprises.
I'm not into the de-yellowing thing myself. There's no evidence that
de-yellowi
> I'm not into the de-yellowing thing myself. There's no evidence that
> de-yellowing improves the durability of objects. A museum curator
Precisely my view, as I said a couple of days ago. If there is some
way to 'stabilise' the plastic so it doesn't go brittle or just fall apart
on its own the
> I'm not into the de-yellowing thing myself. There's no evidence that
> de-yellowing improves the durability of objects. A museum curator preparing
> an exhibit might well use a water-based acrylic that can easily be washed
> off.
That is what the Air and Space Museum has done for a while - a v
and I will add... the Retrobrite... we are not sure what the long
term effect is
It would be a real bummer if 50 years from now the object
decomposes OH N
Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org)
In a message dated 8/24/2015 12:37:14 P.M. US Mountain St
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Peter Brown wrote:
Was there any resolution to the original request for HP5480A service
information?
I have fiches for this instrument as follows
1. 5480A - Signal Analyzer Operating manual Part 1 - 05480-90014(fiche) - 2
fiches, 60 pages per fiche
2. 5480A/B - Signal An
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Jason Scott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes
wrote:
On 08/21/2015 08:08 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 15 August 2015 at 13:03, Liam Proven wrote:
http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683
Apologies if this is old news...
Some pictures, from sun-res
Hey all-
I've always wondered about this.
Their website hasn't seen a proper update in years, and it looks like they
have a lot of choice hardware donated to them that they may not be
maintaining... Is it open to the public?
Are people actively volunteering there to make sure this stuff is shown
I recently restored several VT100 that were extremely yellowed as well
as filthy dirty.
I put the plastics in my bathtub and sprayed them heavily with "Krud
Kutter", intending only to remove the dirt. To my surprise, much of
the yellowing came off too. It didn't return them to their pristine
or
> On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Chris Elmquist wrote:
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> I recently restored several VT100 that were extremely yellowed as well
> as filthy dirty.
>
> I put the plastics in my bathtub and sprayed them heavily with "Krud
> Kutter", intending only to remove the dirt. To my surprise, much of
> th
> I recently restored several VT100 that were extremely yellowed as well
> as filthy dirty.
>
> I put the plastics in my bathtub and sprayed them heavily with "Krud
> Kutter", intending only to remove the dirt. To my surprise, much of
> the yellowing came off too. It didn't return them to their
On Monday (08/24/2015 at 07:41PM -0400), Paul Koning wrote:
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> > On Aug 24, 2015, at 7:28 PM, Chris Elmquist wrote:
> >
> > I recently restored several VT100 that were extremely yellowed as well
> > as filthy dirty.
> >
> > I put the plastics in my bathtub and sprayed them heavily with "Krud
>
On Monday (08/24/2015 at 04:43PM -0700), Ali wrote:
> > I recently restored several VT100 that were extremely yellowed as well
> > as filthy dirty.
> >
> > I put the plastics in my bathtub and sprayed them heavily with "Krud
> > Kutter", intending only to remove the dirt. To my surprise, much of
Sometimes the yellow coming off is just the degraded plastic. Even a mild
cleaning just removes the surface layer of degraded plastic.
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Subject: Re: De-yell
On 8/22/2015 6:31 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 08/22/2015 02:14 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
No, I haven't the faintest idea where you would even find a copy today.
I did find a reference to the CCVS suite of tests for sequential I/O:
http://oai.dtic.mil/oai/oai?verb=getRecord&metadataPrefix=html&iden
I wrote them with an Osborne question as we got a osborne 1 but it
was later and slicker and they replied other than that I do not know.
Seems we are getting hit with computers with handles on them this
month. A RS 4P showed up today!
Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
On 08/24/2015 02:19 PM, Jason Scott wrote:
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 2:16 PM, Dave Woyciesjes
wrote:
On 08/21/2015 08:08 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 15 August 2015 at 13:03, Liam Proven wrote:
http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683
Apologies if this is old news...
Some pictures, from s
Yes. Information by itself has no behavior.
Water and electricity are especially bad analogies, because they are both
tangible. When you use the water or charge, it is gone. You can't take one
water molecule have share it between 100 people. You can, however, share
the same bit of information to a
On 8/23/2015 9:39 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
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> When I connect up drive "X", the +24V series pass transistor gets very
> warm and the +24V drops to around +8.5V (regardless of whether or not
> the stepper motor leads are connected). On the circuit board, a
> Shugart ASIC 16270-1 gets quite hot, and
On 08/23/2015 03:28 AM, drlegendre . wrote:
Howdy gents,
Working away on the recently acquired Osborne 1. Seems there's something
wrong with the KB - and if I didn't know better, I'd say it's a case of
shorted contacts.
The KB connector is 24 pins, double row header like a short floppy or IDE
h
On 08/24/2015 05:31 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
Actually, with a little digging on DTIC I found another reference
9actaully several - the full manual is there - and ended up on NTIS
which shows it *still* available although when you click the link
the product number gives an error and suggests y
On 8/24/2015 6:43 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 08/24/2015 05:31 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
Actually, with a little digging on DTIC I found another reference
9actaully several - the full manual is there - and ended up on NTIS
which shows it *still* available although when you click the link
the pr
Hi Jules,
Oh, no worries - I'd have taken it in this condition whether or not you
were aware of the issues. After all, it +was+ a gift, and a very generous
one at that; not just in terms of materiel, but in terms of your time
spent, as well.
On the bright side, I may be able to send you some boot
Friends,
I know some of us knew Bob Hall, an amazing character, who spent the last
decade of his life crusading for the restoration of US manufacturing and
railing against the perils of the Giant in the East - among other things.
Sadly, I learned only today that Bob passed away on July 28th, 2015
On 08/24/2015 07:06 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
No clue - but I've found some seriously old stuff lurking there in
the past. If anyone would know tape it ought to be these folks. The
fact that it's still in the catalog is encouraging. Perhaps they
archived it to different media and didn't upda
On 8/24/2015 7:44 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 08/24/2015 07:06 PM, steve shumaker wrote:
No clue - but I've found some seriously old stuff lurking there in
the past. If anyone would know tape it ought to be these folks. The
fact that it's still in the catalog is encouraging. Perhaps they
arch
On 8/24/2015 3:30 PM, Ian Finder wrote:
Hey all-
I've always wondered about this.
Their website hasn't seen a proper update in years, and it looks like they
have a lot of choice hardware donated to them that they may not be
maintaining... Is it open to the public?
Are people actively volunteer
I see. Why would they do that?
Dwight
> From: jw...@classiccmp.org
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: RE: FYI gmane cctalk group
> Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:34:03 -0500
>
> That means they are copying the list without permission.
>
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Hey Virgil / anyone who might know & care,
I'd known the man for well over a decade - first made his acquaintance when
he became a customer of the boutique Hi-End audio outfit I used to work
for. Spent a lot of phone-time working with him, trying to get various
issues sorted out in his system. Onl
This about screen pretty much sums it up.
http://gmane.org/about.php
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Free software is mainly developed on mailing lists. Mailing lists have
many advantages over other forms of communication, but they have two
weaknesses: It's difficult to follow discussions in a sensible way
On Mon, Aug 24, 2015, Al Kossow wrote:
> just noticed this
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.announce/23246/match=gmane+comp+hardware+vintage
>
> From: Mailing List Manager gmane.org>
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> Date: 2015-05-19 10:57:19 GMT (
I've got his stuff here at Keep America At Work.
I knew he was bad, but I had NOT heard this and I'm very sorry to hear this.
http://keepamericaatwork.com/category/bob-hall/
I never had the opportunity to meet him, but we exchanged emails frequently
and I wish I had been able to meet him.
Virgi
sad to lose a good person at a young age
Ed#
In a message dated 8/24/2015 9:47:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
vbier...@gmail.com writes:
I've got his stuff here at Keep America At Work.
I knew he was bad, but I had NOT heard this and I'm very sorry to hear
this.
http://keepam
Any Northern Calif folk (current or Ex) that might have been around
the BEVATRON - Okthis thing had pdp-8 computers ( the
classic first model rack mounted) and teletypes hooked to it
I am finding very little info on it...
Just scanning stuff on Crocker's Cra
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