New post take longer to appear then replies?

2015-08-21 Thread Ali
Just wondering if new posts are moderated vs. replies? I posted a new message to the list a few hours ago and it still has not shown up. However, a reply to a preexisting message I sent out a few minutes ago has already appeared. Thanks.

9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Ali
Hello All, Recently I came across a complete Pertec interface (card, manual, software, and, cables) thanks to list-member Shaun. Of course what is the point of having an interface if you have nothing to interface it to! So I've been looking at, and learning a bit, about 1/2" tape drives. I've al

Re: Vintage Software Copyright

2015-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015, Jay Jaeger wrote: The written records I have read state that Kildall finally came to his senses way way late, and realized what a market opportunity the IBM PC represented. But by then he was too late. By every account I have read, he blew off a meeting arranged by Gates th

Re: Vintage Software Copyright

2015-08-21 Thread Geoff Oltmans
On Aug 21, 2015, at 5:25 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > In fact, the clear copyright issue was apparently why IBM chose to ALSO sell > CP/M-86. However, there are disagreements about whether the pricing choice > was an IBM effort to sabotage the CP/M-86 sales, or a serious error by DRI. > (I bel

Re: Cheap board guy

2015-08-21 Thread Jerry Weiss
On Aug 21, 2015, at 2:00 PM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > >> From: Mark G. Thomas > >> 4x M8192 - KDJ11 (AA or AB?) -- two work, two fail POST > > And alas, we don't seem to have any prints for that card (although we do have > what amounts to a tech manual, so maybe we can create a set, with a certain

Re: More on manuals plus rescue

2015-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin
But that is not what the word means in law and it is not what the word means in ordinary usage. I'm confused on some of the terminology. I don't think that I'm alone. A friend of mine was in law school before he'd believe me that "burglary" and "robbery" were not fully synonymous. On Sat, 22

RE: De-yellowing

2015-08-21 Thread Ali
> Another option (albeit slow acting, pro/con) is using straight 3% > hydrogen peroxide + UV like you get at the drug store. I used this > method on a few of my Commodore 128D pieces that were yellowed. It does > act very slow, but that might not be such a bad thing considering > people have had is

Re: Vintage Software Copyright

2015-08-21 Thread Fred Cisin
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015, Geoff Oltmans wrote: The way I've heard the story before, was that Kildall was surprised when he finally saw the price sheet for the pricing of CP/M-86 vs PC-DOS. I I've heard that, but it was from people who did not think that the original contact with IBM was mishandled.

Re: Vintage Software Copyright

2015-08-21 Thread Liam Proven
On 22 August 2015 at 01:34, Fred Cisin wrote: > and maybe it should have come down ALL the way to MS-DOS price Arguably -- and I'm aware it's stretching a point -- it did, in the form of DR-DOS. -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profile Email: lpro...@cix.co.uk • GMail/

Re: More on manuals plus rescue

2015-08-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 21, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: > > On Fri, 21 Aug 2015, Mouse wrote: >> But that is not what the word means in law and it is not what the word >> means in ordinary usage. > > I'm confused on some of the terminology. I don't think that I'm alone. > A friend of mine was in law

Re: Vintage Software Copyright

2015-08-21 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 21, 2015, at 7:06 PM, Geoff Oltmans wrote: > > > On Aug 21, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: >> >> If it were changes in the law, then it would NOT be retroactive unless >> explicitly declaring itself to be. > > Different places are different, but the US constitution explicity pr

Re: In Realtime: Saving 25,000 Manuals — August 15, 2015

2015-08-21 Thread Liam Proven
On 15 August 2015 at 13:03, Liam Proven wrote: > http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4683 > > Apologies if this is old news... Some pictures, from sun-rescue: https://www.flickr.com/photos/textfiles/albums/72157657277241785/page1 -- Liam Proven • Profile: http://lproven.livejournal.com/profil

Re: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Glen Slick
On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 4:10 PM, Ali wrote: > Hello All, > > Recently I came across a complete Pertec interface (card, manual, software, > and, cables) thanks to list-member Shaun. Of course what is the point of > having an interface if you have nothing to interface it to! > Of course the biggest

Re: Cheap board guy

2015-08-21 Thread Noel Chiappa
> I lucked out. One of the dead ones had a broken trace on the bottom, and > cracked corner of the socket for one of the big square chips. So does that one work now? > The second one started working after I simply re-seated the two square > chips around their sockets. Yeah, that

Re: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/21/2015 05:09 PM, Glen Slick wrote: I wouldn't want to pay the $310 that was asked for in that listing. I got one for free in a rack with some other Sun gear (which I later gave away for free) and a couple others that were $100 or less for local pickup. Ditto for the Fuji. Good solid co

Data I/O 29B

2015-08-21 Thread Billy Pettit
I have a small batch of Data I/O EPROM burners. Trying to test them out and ran into a nightmare. They require a pin family and size parameter. But in none of the documentation is there any mention of what these values are. There are some generic pinouts, which are almost useless because Dat

Re: Data I/O 29B

2015-08-21 Thread wulfman
i got a few of them and have the data somewhere i will try to dig it up and send u off list On 8/21/2015 5:33 PM, Billy Pettit wrote: > I have a small batch of Data I/O EPROM burners. Trying to test them out and > ran into a nightmare. They require a pin family and size parameter. But in > n

Re: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Tom Moss
Ali, I recently bought a Qualstar 1052 from Nico de Jong, which may fit the bill if you're happy with 1600 and 3200bpi. I believe he has another available. http://www.farumdata.dk/lagersalg.html Regards, -Tom On 22 August 2015 at 00:10, Ali wrote: > Hello All, > > Recently I came across a comp

Re: ISA Pertec controllers available

2015-08-21 Thread Tom Moss
Shaun, I see in another thread that you've found the drivers. I'm still interested in buying a controller if you've still got one. Regards, -Tom On 7 August 2015 at 21:51, Shaun Halstead wrote: > > I have two Computer Logics PCTD-III Pertec 8-bit ISA interface boards > available. I have no

RE: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Ali
> Ali, > > I recently bought a Qualstar 1052 from Nico de Jong, which may fit the > bill if you're happy with 1600 and 3200bpi. I believe he has another > available. > http://www.farumdata.dk/lagersalg.html Tom, Thanks for the heads up. I have dealt with Nico, and while a real nice guy, I doubt

Update on SA-800 Problem

2015-08-21 Thread Jay Jaeger
Well, the Altos ACS-8000-2 power supply is all back together and working again, in reasonable health. And, as I posted a few days back, I swapped out the bearings. Unfortunately, that does not seem to have helped. Now that the problem child is the second drive, though, I was able to put a floppy

Re: Data I/O 29B

2015-08-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 8/21/15 5:33 PM, Billy Pettit wrote: This is the poorest documentation I've ever seen on a piece of test equipment. The problem is they went through at least three generations of programming packs (individual device, unipak, unipack2/2A/2B) There is a text file (unipak2.txt) that I sen

Re: More on manuals plus rescue

2015-08-21 Thread Mouse
That's why I speak out against attempts to [...] >> Please don't misquote me. [...] > I'm not the person who wrote what you quoted. No, you're not. I wrote it. You quoted it, with line breaks removed. > Idiot. Anyone who is confused here is invited to go back and consult Message-ID: <55

Re: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Tom Moss
Ali, Whoops! I must've skipped over the part about shipping. -Tom On 22 August 2015 at 02:44, Ali wrote: > > Ali, > > > > I recently bought a Qualstar 1052 from Nico de Jong, which may fit the > > bill if you're happy with 1600 and 3200bpi. I believe he has another > > available. > > http://ww

Re: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/21/2015 06:10 PM, Ali wrote: Hello All, Recently I came across a complete Pertec interface (card, manual, software, and, cables) thanks to list-member Shaun. Of course what is the point of having an interface if you have nothing to interface it to! So I've been looking at, and learning a

RE: Data I/O 29B

2015-08-21 Thread Randy Dawson
Something must be wrong here, the 29B/unipak is very easy to use. I was the rep in Houston (USDATA) and I must have sold 50 of these. It went for $4500 with the unipak. A typical demo we would plug in a dumb terminal, its a lot more effective demo to select a device than from the keypad. One o

Re: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Al Kossow
On 8/21/15 7:22 PM, Jon Elson wrote: Enough Pertec drives were made so that manuals should be no problem. Some other makes were made in fairly small numbers so manuals may be a problem. One of the things I've specialized in is collecting tape drive manuals on bitsavers. There are docs ther

Re: Data I/O 29B

2015-08-21 Thread wulfman
I have a modified dos program that talks to the data i/o its the one that they sold with the unit but only ran on a 286 or lower system the modified one i have works in windows 7 in a dos box not tried it on a win8 or 10 system but i dont see why it would not work if your interested i can send it

RE: 5.25 floppies that read but don't write

2015-08-21 Thread Marc Verdiell
Chuck, I looked at the pin 2 signal and resulting drive behavior. It doesn't properly auto-switch between densities as it should. It does switch it for reading, but not for writing. Below is the full story. There is one jumper that controls DD/HD switching mode. In the auto position, I can read

Re: 5.25 floppies that read but don't write

2015-08-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/21/2015 09:50 PM, Marc Verdiell wrote: Chuck, I looked at the pin 2 signal and resulting drive behavior. It doesn't properly auto-switch between densities as it should. It does switch it for reading, but not for writing. Below is the full story. On 5.25" HD drives, pin 2 is generally a d

RE: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Ali
> The other big difference in later drives is if they were 'streaming' or > not. What that means is the tape is expected to roll continously > (stream) as opposed to being able to quickly stop between records. Al, Most of the units out there, short of the floor standing ones and the original IBM

RE: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Ali
Jon, > Enough Pertec drives were made so that manuals should be no problem. > Some other makes were made in fairly small numbers so manuals may be a > problem. I should have been more clear - the manuals were for the ISA interface card and the accompanying SW not for an particular drive. > You h

Re: Update on SA-800 Problem

2015-08-21 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/21/2015 06:46 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote: One other thing I have noticed is that sometimes after a read problem on the bad drive the FD 1791 floppy controller chip seems to get into a "snit" that even a reset does not cure - I have to cycle power to get it back. Now that I have a reliable drive

RE: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Ali
> The Fuji, like a lot of drives from that era, handle only 1600 and 6250 > densities, so if you need 800 or 3200, you'll be out of luck. I've > also got a couple of Qualstar open-reel units and well as an Overland > streamer. I still like the Fuji best. Chuck, As I am more interested in workin

RE: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Ali
> I have had good results with Fujitsu M2444AC Pertec interface 9-track > 1/2-inch tape drives > > http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/fujitsu/B03P-5325- > 0100A_02B_M244X_Series_Streaming_Tape_Drive_CE_Manual_May89.pdf > Glen, Thanks for the recommendation. I had actually seen the drives you linked to

Re: Data I/O 29B

2015-08-21 Thread Jim Stephens
At microdata we had a support contract with Data I/O and every set of roms for the base unit and the Unipak came with a new poster up to date with the latest parts from the manufacturers. So you don't need to just get a poster or table or list, but you also need to match it to the firmware set

Re: More on manuals plus rescue

2015-08-21 Thread Evan Koblentz
That's why I speak out against attempts to [...] Please don't misquote me. [...] I'm not the person who wrote what you quoted. No, you're not. I wrote it. You quoted it, with line breaks removed. Idiot. Anyone who is confused here is invited to go back and consult Message-ID: <55d7694f.

RE: Data I/O 29B

2015-08-21 Thread Randy Dawson
Hi Jim, Data I/O flew down to Texas every month, for sales meetings, we were doing a huge business for them. We would make joint calls and I remember that our field stuff was always updated as part of the trip. All our demo units had these cool small suitcase, foam lined cases. The FAE would

RE: 9-Track 1/2" Tape Drive Recommendations?

2015-08-21 Thread Glen Slick
On Aug 21, 2015 10:21 PM, "Ali" wrote: > > One question: from the pictures it was not clear if this used the three or two connector Pertec interface? I am guessing two but better to ask than end up with a 200lb paper weight! > > -Ali A Fujitsu M2444AC should have two 50-pin connectors for a forma

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