OT: Re: email gripe

From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 5:47 PM On 7/7/2015 4:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I might want to follow your link, if I have sufficient interest and trust, but I want to have to make that decision *before* entering the spy filled, all-singing, all-dancing hype arena. I agree with

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-08 01:19, Antonio Carlini wrote: On 07/07/15 23:02, Johnny Billquist wrote: Right. But I did say "some". :-) Think 8978 for example... Does that really count as a VAX? It was just a marketing name for cluster ... Good question. The designation definitely existed, but yes, it's j

Re: email gripe

jwsmobile wrote: On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. There are some on this lis

Re: SDK-86 Chess source code, anybody?

On 8 Jul 2015, at 7:57 am, Randy Dawson wrote: > Anybody have this? I'm interested too please.

Re: email gripe

On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Sean Conner wrote: [2] mutt. I was forced to upgrade a decade ago because elm was no longer maintained and non-Y2K compliant (I think that's why I switched). Alpine Forever! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of

Re: email gripe

On 07/07/2015 07:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search eng

Re: email gripe

* Dave Woyciesjes [150708 10:17]: > On 07/07/2015 07:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > > From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM > >> If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that > >> would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google > >> already ind

Re: email gripe

On 07/07/2015 09:06 PM, Sean Conner wrote: ...But I've tried using a GUI to check email and frankly, I found it too painful to use. It wasn't that the GUI was confusing or inconsistent, but that it was *way too slow*. Sluggish to display, and painfully slow to download (it's not unusual for

Re: email gripe

On 07/07/2015 11:24 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 07/07/2015 07:27 PM, wulfman wrote: yes html email gets deleted for the most part I don't have that option--customers send whatever they want. Another annoyance is when they send attachments in that Outlook winmail.dat format. I think that Libre o

Re: email gripe

On 07/08/2015 10:25 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Dave Woyciesjes [150708 10:17]: On 07/07/2015 07:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some

Re: email gripe

> Listen, if they want to track & watch you, they're doing it already. > Using text-only email won't help much; give it up. While I didn't write the text (which I cut) that the above quote is responding to, I too stick to text-only for security reasons - but not just because of the "them" watching

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 "full-height" drives.

Re: email gripe

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! :-) We had some difficulties with college administrators that resulted in, "The question is not 'are you paranoid?'; the question is 'are you paranoid enough?'" ("There is no expectation of privacy for any actions taken on t

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But, it was nice to be able to have more than 4 "full-height" drives. Plus I'm guessing (admitte

Re: email gripe

Oh boy! Another long, rambling and pointless email rant thread! -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate The Information School Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal Value Sensitive Design Research Lab University

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

> On Jul 8, 2015, at 08:34, Toby Thain wrote: > > Plus I'm guessing (admittedly) that the Really Big VAX racks don't have > castors either? The VAX-11/780 has casters. Back in college, a friend and I pushed a decommissioned 11/780 out of the computer room and into our boss's tiny office whil

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

Oh yes they did! And screw down feet. https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=VAX#/media/File:SPEC-1_VAX_05.jpg On 8 July 2015 at 16:34, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: >> >>> Personally I think anything with castors on >>> >>

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

> On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > > On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: >> On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: >>> Personally I think anything with castors on >> >> No. >> I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters. >> But, it was nice to be able to

Re: email gripe

Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! :-) On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Fred Cisin wrote: We had some difficulties with college administrators that resulted in, "The question is not 'are you paranoid?'; the question is 'are you paranoid enough?'" ("There is no expectation

Re: email gripe

On 07/08/2015 07:30 AM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: You said you use TBird, right? Have you looked in to the LookOut Add-In for that ailment? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lookout/ Thanks for that tip--it definitely looks to be useful. --Chuck

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-08 12:05 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: On Jul 8, 2015, at 8:34 AM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: Personally I think anything with castors on No. I have a PC "server" case from late 286 era with tiny casters. But,

Re: email gripe

It was thus said that the Great Dave Woyciesjes once stated: > On 07/07/2015 09:06 PM, Sean Conner wrote: > > > > ...But I've tried using a GUI to check email and frankly, I > >found it too painful to use. It wasn't that the GUI was confusing or > >inconsistent, but that it was *way too slow*.

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin > Sent: 08 July 2015 15:47 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) > > On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wrote: >

RE: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Toby Thain > Sent: 08 July 2015 16:34 > To: gene...@classiccmp.org; discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off- > Topic Posts > Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) > > On 2015-

OT Re: email gripe

From: Dave Woyciesjes: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:17 AM Ahh, the sweet smell of paranoia... :) Listen, if they want to track & watch you, they're doing it already. Using text-only email won't help much; give it up. Oh, they are out to "get me", alright. They've admitted as much repeatedly.

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

And not consistent; under that criterion a BA123 or S-box would count but a BA23-based system is disqualified, while the two could be identical systems once you open up the card cage! No fair. :O Best, Sean On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Fred Cisin wrote: > On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Dave Wade wro

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

I've never meet a full-size rack that didn't have casters ... otherwise there'd be no way to move it around. :O There must have been? Of course, you'd put the feet down once the equipment is situated. Best, Sean On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 11:34 AM, Toby Thain wrote: > On 2015-07-08 10:46 AM, Fred

FW: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

>Perhaps SDI is a typo for SBI, as in the 11/780? Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the fingers are faster than the brain :-) Synchronous Backplane Interconnect - the system bus used on the 78x and some of the 8000 machines. Bob

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could require two, three or even four people into a job that can be quickly done by one person. I really

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron wrote: > I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two > of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no > automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could require two, three or > even four people

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 7/8/15 12:59 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 1:44 PM, Sean Caron wrote: I love those server hoists... the data center that I work in at U-M has two of them, however they are made by Genie and they are a hand-crank type, no automatic lift. They easily turn a job that could req

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 7/6/15 8:17 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 6 July 2015 at 23:03, Alan Perry wrote: Is there any interest in starting a VAX-11/750 registry? I wouldn't mind knowing who else out there has one and where they are now. If you are interested, send me e-mail (vax11-...@snowmoose.com).

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

How many microvaxen were made? I think that would be a lot more work, wouldn't it? alan On 7/6/15 11:52 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: will this include micro vax also? Ed# In a message dated 7/6/2015 8:03:25 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, ape...@snowmoose.com writes: Is there an

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 7/7/15 1:50 PM, tony duell wrote: BTW, is this list limited to machines that are in operable condition? I would include machines that were clearly restorable. OK, anything can be restored, but you know what I mean :-). In other words an 11/730 or 11/750 that needs its TU58 rollers replac

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 7/7/15 4:35 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-07-08 01:25, Antonio Carlini wrote: On 07/07/15 23:06, Johnny Billquist wrote: I honestly don't have a good idea of what defines a "large" VAX. Buses feels unsuitable. Power connector maybe? :-) If the intention is to avoid a huge list then

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

> > Date: Wed, 08 Jul 2015 00:25:01 +0100 > From: Antonio Carlini > Subject: Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750) > > If the intention is to avoid a huge list then excluding MicroVAXes and > VAXstations should produce a list of VAXen > that you probably cannot easily simply carry h

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Re: FW: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

On 2015-07-08 19:21, Robert Armstrong wrote: Perhaps SDI is a typo for SBI, as in the 11/780? Yeah, exactly. Sometimes the fingers are faster than the brain :-) Synchronous Backplane Interconnect - the system bus used on the 78x and some of the 8000 machines. The 8600 and 8650 are th

Re: VAX-11/750 registry (Was: Reviving a VAX-11/750)

I was wondering along those lines myself earlier this morning... I am thinking, regardless of how many may have originally been produced, I bet if you gathered up all the VAXen in the hands of collectors now; big and small; bussed and bus-less, I bet you'd end up with only a few hundred machines, t

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