I share your favourite(s). In the danish IT-museum-to-be (www.datamuseum.dk) we
have two P857-based systems running. We have lots of spare parts and nearly all
documentation, so if you need something, you are welcome to ask.
I'm presently building a "table top" version of a system with the P857 C
On Jul 1, 2015, at 3:57 PM, devin davison wrote:
>
> Ive been trying to get a pdp 11 for quite a few years now, I recently found
> someone selling a 11/34 with related gear in a couple of racks Here in my
> state of florida. I jumped at the chance and bought it, i have not found
> anything for sa
Ive got a large sgi altix 350 machine running here almost 24/7, uses quite
a bit of power. Rivals the 2 air conditioners on power consumption. Power
is not an issue, if i do get something bigger then ill just run the altix
less and power up the vax. New house has an air conditioned office in the
ga
>Jerry Weiss wrote:
On Jul 1, 2015, at 3:57 PM, devin davison wrote:
Ive been trying to get a pdp 11 for quite a few years now, I recently found
someone selling a 11/34 with related gear in a couple of racks Here in my
state of florida. I jumped at the chance and bought it, i have not found
> From: devin davison
> any precautions I can take to make sure this all gets back in one
> piece? Especially in relation to the RL drives
Other people have covered most of this; my additional advice is to download
the RL01/RL02 manual, and read it thoroughly. It covers the process on
Having recently moved an 11/34 rack, I agree with Noel. Don't scrimp on
the straps to hold it in place, be sure that the racks can't slide forward.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 8:48 AM, Noel Chiappa
wrote:
> > From: devin davison
>
> > any precautions I can take to make sure this all gets bac
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 7:48 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>
>> From: devin davison
>
>> any precautions I can take to make sure this all gets back in one
>> piece? Especially in relation to the RL drives
>
> Other people have covered most of this; my additional advice is to download
> the RL01/RL02 m
2015-07-02 7:31 GMT+02:00 tony duell :
> Not all minis came from the States :-)
>
That's right. There were one odd swedish mini as well.
Datasaab manufactured a line of minis called D5 in the early seventies. The
D5/10, D5/20 and D5/30. 16 bits.
They were used among others in banks for controlli
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:31 AM, tony duell wrote:
>
> Not all minis came from the States :-)
>
> One of my favourite non-mainstream families is the Philips P800 series. It's
> a 16 bit machine with 16 registers (0 is the program counter and 15
> is the stack pointer, rest are mostly general purp
2015-07-02 16:02 GMT+02:00 Paul Koning :
>
> > On Jul 2, 2015, at 1:31 AM, tony duell wrote:
> >
> > Not all minis came from the States :-)
> >
> > One of my favourite non-mainstream families is the Philips P800 series.
> It's
> > a 16 bit machine with 16 registers (0 is the program counter and 1
> I share your favourite(s). In the danish IT-museum-to-be (www.datamuseum.dk)
> we have two
> P857-based systems running. We have lots of spare parts and nearly all
> documentation, so
> if you need something, you are welcome to ask.
Unfortunately I don't own anything in that series :-(. What
Put everything delicate and heavy in the truck, and put lighter, bulkier,
less delicate stuff in the trailer. Are you using a trailer with shocks?
>
> Ive been trying to get a pdp 11 for quite a few years now, I recently found
> someone selling a 11/34 with related gear in a couple of racks Here in my
> state of florida. I jumped at the chance and bought it, i have not found
> anything for sale this close to me before, yet alone in my state.
I think there's a lot of good advice here ... as others have discussed, the
greatest consideration for you will likely be the weight and dimensions ...
the 11/34a is a "4-6U" machine but it is much heavier than any 4U machine
you will see nowadays, and the weight is not evenly distributed in the
ch
If you don't already understand how to 1) open up an unpowered RL, and 2) how
to engage the travel lock, I could make a quick YouTube video tomorrow
(Friday). Let me know if this is needed.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
> From: Sean Caron
> I think there's a lot of good advice here
Lots of good advice here; any chance we can capture it (and the rest in this
thread) in a Wiki page? (Hint, hint... :-)
Noel
On 02.07.2015 16:36, tony duell wrote:
I share your favourite(s). In the danish IT-museum-to-be (www.datamuseum.dk) we
have two
P857-based systems running. We have lots of spare parts and nearly all
documentation, so
if you need something, you are welcome to ask.
Unfortunately I don't own a
On 2015-07-02 15:47, Mattis Lind wrote:
2015-07-02 7:31 GMT+02:00 tony duell :
Not all minis came from the States :-)
That's right. There were one odd swedish mini as well.
Datasaab manufactured a line of minis called D5 in the early seventies. The
D5/10, D5/20 and D5/30. 16 bits.
They were
On Thursday (07/02/2015 at 03:16PM -0400), Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > From: Sean Caron
>
> > I think there's a lot of good advice here
>
> Lots of good advice here; any chance we can capture it (and the rest in this
> thread) in a Wiki page? (Hint, hint... :-)
A tiny bit more advice,
Don't
There are interesting and obscure machines from the most mainstream
manufacturers.
Take the IBM System/7. Successor to the 1800, succeeded by the
Series/1. They were *ubiquitous* - one in every telephone exchange in
the USA, I've heard. They even made a special ruggedised version for
shipboard use
Hence the reason I asked on-list for a web developer. One response thus
far
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To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
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Subject: Re: seeking
I'd love to help! But look how my web skills are sharp! :o)
www.tabalabs.com.br
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From: "Jay
Hi,
I'm engaged in a Retrochallenge project where I'm recoding my
classic-computers.org.nz site to make it suitable for mobile platforms. I
want to modernise the code as well, making it as close to HTML5 standard as
I can
The RetroChallenge blog site is here.
http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/
On 07/02/2015 03:26 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
Hi,
I'm engaged in a Retrochallenge project where I'm recoding my
classic-computers.org.nz site to make it suitable for mobile platforms. I
want to modernise the code as well, making it as close to HTML5 standard as
I can
The RetroChallenge blog sit
I have been using Mosaic on my OpenVMS system, almost unusable, but fun.
It's more important in this day and age to keep up with the web publishing
standards than maintain backward compatibility. Google penalizes sites
that are not mobile friendly in their rankings. If you can't be found,
what's
> Subject: Re: How many use old browsers (e.g. =< Netscape 4 or IE 6) as their
> ONLY source of web content?
I didn't see the original of this, probably (based on the headers)
because it was sent through gmail. But, assuming the Subject: is an
accurate guide to the content, I may qualify.
My us
wasn't lynx before even Internet explorer 1.0?
Heck if you have retro computer site make it look as old fashioned as
you can
then it is retro... then if people don't like it... well... you know
the rest
lynx might be too primitive... noscreen graphics on page as you
the fun think about the old lunx browser is you could run it on a pc
8088 old system!
I have a pc speed little laptop and used the lynxin on the road
applications
we had a free net here in phx and many people used it for ages...
it was fun to use old machine with lynx
> It's more important in this day and age to keep up with the web
> publishing standards than maintain backward compatibility.
Depends on what you're aiming for. Not everyone cares about making the
latest glitz available even to those who can display it.
> Google penalizes sites that are not mob
In a message dated 7/2/2015 5:14:33 P.M. MT, billdeg...@gmail.com writes:
I have been using Mosaic on my OpenVMS system, almost unusable, but fun.
In what way is it "unusable"?
It's more important in this day and age to keep up with the web publishing
standards than maintain backward compa
Anyone ever heard of the IS1000? I can't remember if it was made by GE or
GTE.
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
> There are interesting and obscure machines from the most mainstream
> manufacturers.
>
> Take the IBM System/7. Successor to the 1800, succeeded by the
> Series/1. Th
On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 07:01:33PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
> My websites tend to be "best viewed with Lynx 2.0", although I often
> use IE 8.
>
> Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
Grumpy old man here as well, but if you want to use certain sites
(example: price out a new Mazda veh
On 2015-07-02 11:10 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 07:01:33PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
My websites tend to be "best viewed with Lynx 2.0", although I often
use IE 8.
Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com
Grumpy old man here as well, but if you want to use certain
It's not just a matter of size, but also of maintenance. Tony says, I have
the docs, I can maintain it - but do you want to chase down a logic defect
among a gazillion small- and medium-scale integration ICs? And the bus
connections? And the wire wrap? And the microcode? (I have done this.)
A
It is quite easy with html 5 and css3, the modern tools of the web
designer, to detect when a lynx browser is being used to access the page
and in response present a text version of the site.
best of both worlds
b
On Jul 2, 2015 11:14 PM, "Toby Thain" wrote:
> On 2015-07-02 11:10 PM, Mark Lini
On 2 July 2015 at 17:39, Mike Ross wrote:
> Take the IBM System/7. Successor to the 1800, succeeded by the
> Series/1. They were *ubiquitous* - one in every telephone exchange in
> the USA, I've heard. They even made a special ruggedised version for
Being into telephony, I can say that I've not he
> Grumpy old man here as well, but if you want to use certain sites
> (example: price out a new Mazda vehicle, pay certain health
> insurance) they simply will not work without the interactive
> razzle-dazzle.
Yes.
I consider that yet another reason (as if I needed one) to not use
them. I push b
> Take the IBM System/7. Successor to the 1800, succeeded by the
> Series/1. They were *ubiquitous* - one in every telephone exchange in
> the USA, I've heard. They even made a special ruggedised version for
> shipboard use. Yet they're functionally *extinct*...Unless anyone knows
> different, no
On 2015-07-02 11:31 PM, william degnan wrote:
It is quite easy with html 5 and css3, the modern tools of the web
designer, to detect when a lynx browser is being used to access the page
and in response present a text version of the site.
best of both worlds
Oh, I know it can be done. It's not
> That's right. There were one odd swedish mini as well.
The Japanese made quite a wide variety of minicomputers (and
mainframes), but they remain fairly unknown in the collector mindset,
despite their web presence.
--
Will
Terry,
On Jul 2, 2015, at 5:26 PM, Terry Stewart wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm engaged in a Retrochallenge project ….The
> question is, how many guys like us, those who dabble with old tech, are
> likely to use ancient browsers as their ONLY source of web content. I
> suspect not many. Should I worry a
I'm looking for a copy of Solstice (or Solaris) Disk Suite 4.0 software. A
bounty is available...
Cheers,
Lyle
--
73 AF6WS
Bickley Consulting West Inc.
http://bickleywest.com
"Black holes are where God is dividing by zero"
Just a data point but I'll probably continue to maintain my personal page
in HTML 3.2 as long as the technology will let me get away with it :O No
need for all that fancy new-fangled stuff ... and it's nice to have at
least one ready-made demo for browsing the Web on my older machines :O
Best,
Se
I can't thank you all enough for the insightful information. I was on the
phone for a good 2 hours last night talking to someone who broke down what
i needed to do step by step. The trailer being used is a uhaul 12x6
trailer, details here : ://
www.uhaul.com/Trailers/6x12-Cargo-Trailer-Rental/RV/
Cribbing! Brilliant! I love that. Definitely going to remember that trick
when I try to rack my 11/34. Anyone got a spare set of rails? :O
Best,
Sean
On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Chris Elmquist wrote:
> On Thursday (07/02/2015 at 03:16PM -0400), Noel Chiappa wrote:
> > > From: Sean Car
Thanks for all those replies, and feedback on what the test page looked
like on various devices. Much appreciated.
I see there are various views as expected. I guess it depends on what I
want the website to do in the end. One of the reasons I'm doing this is
more to make sure the pages are ok fo
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