About 10 years ago, I was using an algorithm which required more than
15 digits of precision. I wrote some PDP-11 assembler code which
could handle unsigned values up to 2^512 (just under 10^160) plus
fractional numbers with 1024 bits that had a precision on the right hand
side of the decimal poi
Some years ago, I wrote about a clone of the Beeprog (made by Elnec) I
bought here locally in Brazil.
Now, seems chinese are cloning the Beeprog PLUS (!!!)
I got a Beeprog+ in the used market here in Brazil. Asked for Elnec
warranty, since the programmer was manufactured in (month)1
On 06/23/2015 07:57 AM, Alexandre Souza wrote:
Some years ago, I wrote about a clone of the Beeprog (made by Elnec)
I bought here locally in Brazil.
Now, seems chinese are cloning the Beeprog PLUS (!!!)
I got a Beeprog+ in the used market here in Brazil. Asked for Elnec
warranty, s
.Apologies if this has already been posted
There seems to be someone building a processor from individual transistors:
http://www.megaprocessor.com/index.html
Estimated size: quite big!
Antonio
On 2015-06-23 17:22, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/23/2015 07:57 AM, Alexandre Souza wrote:
Some years ago, I wrote about a clone of the Beeprog (made by Elnec)
I bought here locally in Brazil.
Now, seems chinese are cloning the Beeprog PLUS (!!!)
I got a Beeprog+ in the used market he
I don't know, but there could be some WOW stuff there. I have to admit,
the day I heard Barak Obama said the US was going to free up restrictions
with Cuba I thought about the carsand the COMPUTERS!...UNIVAC? IBM
701? Anything could be there.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:46 AM, Paul Birkel wr
I wonder to what Soviet equipment they would have upgraded?
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:06 PM, william degnan
wrote:
>
> http://millennialmainframer.com/2014/12/ibm-still-waiting-cuba-pay-mainframes/
>
> Who's up for it?
>
> B
>
whenever I see video from there is to full of 50scars! Neat! Ed#
In a message dated 6/23/2015 4:24:37 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
billdeg...@gmail.com writes:
I don't know, but there could be some WOW stuff there. I have to admit,
the day I heard Barak Obama said the US was
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:46 PM, Paul Birkel wrote:
> I wonder to what Soviet equipment they would have upgraded?
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:06 PM, william degnan
>> http://millennialmainframer.com/2014/12/ibm-still-waiting-cuba-pay-mainframes/
I wonder what kind of intelligence the Soviets
Hi all,
I could acquire *four* rotten PC05 Papertape Reader/Punches for PDP-11.
I'm now restoring them.
One of these is strange:
Normally, the feed hole (between data hole 3 and 4) is used to clock in
bits from the data holes.
But this very special PC05 does not have a phototransistor for the f
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Jörg Hoppe wrote:
> Does anybody has a FPMS with schematics for the M705 modul? Perhaps as part
> of some PDP-8 doc?
The M705 is the standard part in the PC8L (along with the M710 and M715).
Vince Slyngstad has some modern schematics here:
http://svn.so-much-st
Fortunately, there are solutions to restore functionality to the clone
Beeprog. I do not know if the same obtains for the clone Plus.
Unfortunately I wasn't able - yet - to find online a working solution.
All of them are crap, just deosn't work.
I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate copy
of their hardware.
If they add some additional checks, and they trap out on a clone, I doubt
that could be considered illegal. They do not try to de
On 2015-06-23 17:59, Alexandre Souza wrote:
I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate
copy of their hardware.
If they add some additional checks, and they trap out on a clone, I
doubt that could b
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> On 2015-06-23 17:59, Alexandre Souza wrote:
>>
>>> I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
>>> not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate
>>> copy of their hardware.
>>> If they
Mike, Charles and the two Pauls,
thanks very much for your feedback on this!
The remaining point now is that they are practically impossible to find anymore
these days, but that's different topic...
Thanks again,
Pierre
If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
I bought the January 1975 Popular Electronics (Altair Computer issue) at the US
Navy Exchange in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Mitscher_DDG35_Cuba_Jan_1975.jpg
Michael Holley
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Beha
On 2015-06-23 18:10, Paul Koning wrote:
On Jun 23, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 17:59, Alexandre Souza wrote:
I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate
copy of the
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul
> Koning
> Sent: 23 June 2015 17:10
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: [RANT]False Beeprog. AGAIN.
>
>
> > On Jun 23, 2015, at 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrot
Jonathan Katz wrote:
[..]
> I wonder what kind of intelligence the Soviets gained from the ex-IBM
> mainframes there. At that point in time a lot of the US defense
> (NORAD) was run off of the SAGE setup, which must have had some 650s
> as a component, right?
Jonathan, I think it is _really_ naiv
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if the
hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that this is
the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
No Johnny. As I said, it bricks (renders inoperable) your hardware if it
isn't origina
On 06/23/2015 09:32 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
You do misunderstand the situation. Elne
On 06/23/2015 09:32 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Jonathan, I think it is _really_ naive to think that the Soviets gained any
big knowledge from that old Mainfraimes.
The soviets build the sputnik, atomic bombs and intercontinental
ROckets w/o to find such things on cuba at all.
There was'nt any techno
On Monday, June 22, 2015 at 15:39, Jay West wrote:
> The disc drives appear to be HP 7900A drives.
I agree. A few pictures for comparison here:
http://www.hpmuseum.net/display_item.php?hw=275
The printers appear to be Data Products 2310 drum printers, also sold as
the HP 2767A; photos:
h
Yes, I saw that on The Register today. Pretty impressive. I think it should
be called a DuellProcessor. :-)
Regards
Rob
On 23 June 2015 at 16:22, Antonio Carlini wrote:
> .Apologies if this has already been posted
>
> There seems to be someone building a processor from individual transistors:
Thanks David. My go to place for batteries is http://www.all-battery.com/.
They are in the Valley, very cost effective, associated with Tenergy I
believe. I receive my batteries in one or two days usually. Always had very
good luck with them, and they have all possible cells in all possible grades
Chuck Guzis wrote:
> On 06/23/2015 09:32 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote:
>
> >Jonathan, I think it is _really_ naive to think that the Soviets gained any
> >big knowledge from that old Mainfraimes.
> >
> >The soviets build the sputnik, atomic bombs and intercontinental
> >ROckets w/o to find such things on
On 2015-06-23 18:41, Alexandre Souza wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
No Johnny. As I said, it bricks (renders i
On 2015-06-23 19:00, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/23/2015 09:32 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
No Johnny. As I said, it bricks (renders inoperable) your hardware
if it isn't original.
Please, read it again.
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 18:41, Alexandre Souza wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware, and it refuses to continue running.
He's mentioned more than once that this software BRICKS the device. When
something is bricked, that means you might as well treat it like the stone
kind for all the use you're going to get out of it from then on.
In the last message I added (render it unoperable) for the ones who
don't k
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Alexandre Souza wrote:
He's mentioned more than once that this software BRICKS the device. When
something is bricked, that means you might as well treat it like the stone
kind for all the use you're going to get out of it from then on.
In the last message I added (re
Well if that don't take the biscuit for originality.
Good luck to you sir. Its a living animated schematic.
Rod
On 23/06/2015 17:20, Phil Budne wrote:
If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
On 2015-Jun-23, at 12:27 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> On 23/06/2015 17:20, Phil Budne wrote:
>> If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
>>
> Well if that don't take the biscuit for originality.
The physical layout concept is actually quite similar to Harry Porter's relay
mac
We have now had conflicting "definitive" statements ranging from "the
software simply displays a message and refuses to run", to "the software
irreparably damages the device"
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays
It's dead, pushing up daisies, it's run down the curtain to the Choir
Invisible. IT'S BRICKED.
Man, I LOLed with this "pushing up daisies" :D
It is most assuredly NOT pining for the fjords! :)
It is a relatively common euphemism, and is explicitly included in the
classic Monty Python "Dead
It was thus said that the Great Fred Cisin once stated:
>
> Surely any competent designer will provide a way to prevent/recover from
> that situation!
> That could consist of a physical switch or jumper that must be manually
> set before the system can writeover the NVRAM.
> OR there could be a
This guy needs help.
Send a busload of soldering techs armed with temp controlled metcals
and about a ton of tin/lead solder
On 23/06/2015 19:37, Jarratt RMA wrote:
Yes, I saw that on The Register today. Pretty impressive
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Sean Conner wrote:
>
> ...
> It could be due to an unforseen situation not considered by the designers.
> Several years ago a friend of mine bricked at CAR (BMW I believe---it was a
> high end German car in any case). He was updating the firmware on the car
> wh
hp drives yes...
data printer no... correct name is data products
and a neat printer if you were just printing the first 20 col zone
I remember something about this model banging it out at 800 or 1000
lpm
at full 80 col it was 300 LPM
( This was the first formal sale o
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Fred Cisin wrote:
It's dead, pushing up daisies, it's run down the curtain to the Choir
Invisible. IT'S BRICKED.
Man, I LOLed with this "pushing up daisies" :D
It is most assuredly NOT pining for the fjords! :)
It is a relatively common euphemism, and is explicitly in
Why are such incompetent designers still employed in the industry?
Eh...this is INTENDED by the company. They want to fry your clone
programmer, so you can buy an original one... :o\
It could be due to an unforseen situation not considered by the designers.
Several years ago a friend of mine bricked at CAR (BMW I believe---it was a
high end German car in any case). He was updating the firmware on the car
when the power cut out, leaving the firmware in an inconsistent state.
Why are such incompetent designers still employed in the industry?
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Alexandre Souza wrote:
Eh...this is INTENDED by the company. They want to fry your clone
programmer, so you can buy an original one... :o\
The retaliatory actions, certainly.
The incompetent designers t
On 06/23/2015 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
What is in the NVRAM? And how did it get there in the first place? Are
you saying that it is impossible to reprogram the device with some other
firmware after you have tried the version Elnec have which detects your
clone?
It's possible, but as I
On 06/23/2015 03:13 PM, geneb wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 18:41, Alexandre Souza wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a message saying that
this is the wrong hardware,
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Dave Woyciesjes wrote:
On 06/23/2015 03:13 PM, geneb wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 18:41, Alexandre Souza wrote:
But unless I misunderstood things, the software merely does a check if
the hardware looks sane, and if not it displays a m
On 06/23/2015 02:47 PM, Sean Conner wrote:
Several years ago a friend of mine bricked at CAR (BMW I believe---it was a
high end German car in any case). He was updating the firmware on the car
when the power cut out, leaving the firmware in an inconsistent state. The
fix required an engineer fr
On 2015-06-23 21:49, Paul Koning wrote:
On Jun 23, 2015, at 3:47 PM, Sean Conner wrote:
...
It could be due to an unforseen situation not considered by the designers.
Several years ago a friend of mine bricked at CAR (BMW I believe---it was a
high end German car in any case). He was updati
On 2015-06-23 22:05, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/23/2015 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
What is in the NVRAM? And how did it get there in the first place? Are
you saying that it is impossible to reprogram the device with some other
firmware after you have tried the version Elnec have which dete
On 06/22/2015 11:43 PM, Christian Kennedy wrote:
I think the hint is on the back. This is a story of Delaine Donohue
retiring from D&B where he created and ran the National Business
Information Center and the Central Data Collection Group between the
early 70s and early 80s. He retired in ’89,
On 2015-Jun-23, at 12:50 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> hp drives yes...
> ...
>
> OK another odd thing - note tapes but lack of tape drives.
>
> If only we could see what was in the rest of the room!
I think those are all disk cartridges, rather than tapes.
I was trying to guess what
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Johnny Billquist wrote:
On 2015-06-23 22:05, Chuck Guzis wrote:
On 06/23/2015 12:03 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote:
What is in the NVRAM? And how did it get there in the first place? Are
you saying that it is impossible to reprogram the device with some other
firmware after y
Yes I noticed the rarther fancy panels with the edgewise meters.
I'm begining to wonder if they might be for monitoring private comms
circuits.
Sort of a comms test box.
The meters would be right for signal to noise and the row of buttons at
the bottom for channel to monitor selection.
On 23/
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 05:59:08PM -0700, Ian S. King wrote:
> ROAD TRIP!
It is going to take a lot of bulldozers to build a road to Cuba ...
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:06 PM, william degnan
> wrote:
>
> >
> > http://millennialmainframer.com/2014/12/ibm-still-waiting-cuba-pay-mainframes/
>
From: Ethan Dicks: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 8:07 AM
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 10:54 AM, Jörg Hoppe wrote:
Does anybody has a FPMS with schematics for the M705 modul? Perhaps as part
of some PDP-8 doc?
Vince Slyngstad has some modern schematics here:
http://svn.so-much-stuff.com/svn/trunk/Eagle/p
I've spent a lot of time researching computer engineering in the Eastern
Bloc ... there aren't a lot of sources here in the West that really
describe well everything they did over there ... my Russian skills are
absolutely awful so most of my knowledge derives from these secondhand
summary papers t
It could be a bunch of terminal multiplexers or communications controllers,
does not even have to be CPU's...
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
> On 2015-Jun-23, at 12:50 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> > hp drives yes...
> > ...
> >
> > OK another odd thing - note tapes bu
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 06:03:33PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> On 2015-06-23 17:59, Alexandre Souza wrote:
> >
> >>I doubt there any legal problems with their course of action. They are
> >>not obliged to ensure that their software works correctly on a pirate
> >>copy of their hardware.
> >>If
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 12:38:22PM -0700, Fred Cisin wrote:
> We have now had conflicting "definitive" statements ranging from
> "the software simply displays a message and refuses to run", to "the
> software irreparably damages the device"
>
> >>>But unless I misunderstood things, the software me
Its one thing to copy a design and stick your own name on it, another to
clone something and stick the legit company name and logo on it. Why can't
they brick a fake if they want to (after all it is the end user trying to
load copyrighted firmware on a fake product not the company seeking out to
Now, if someone actually have one of these devices, and can verify that
it actually bricks it, then we can talk. Until then, all I have is the
above information from Elnec, which do not suggest anything beyond
showing a message, and not continuing past that point.
I have, I've seen it be
On 2015-Jun-23, at 2:28 PM, william degnan wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:12 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
>> On 2015-Jun-23, at 12:50 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
>>> hp drives yes...
>>> ...
>>>
>>> OK another odd thing - note tapes but lack of tape drives.
>>>
>>> If only we could see
One way to find out!
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Sean Caron wrote:
> I've spent a lot of time researching computer engineering in the Eastern
> Bloc ... there aren't a lot of sources here in the West that really
> describe well everything they did over there ... my Russian skills are
> abso
On 06/23/2015 02:50 PM, TeoZ wrote:
Its one thing to copy a design and stick your own name on it, another to
clone something and stick the legit company name and logo on it. Why
can't they brick a fake if they want to (after all it is the end user
trying to load copyrighted firmware on a fake pro
That one's been around for awhile. Ever watch any old reruns of 60's
era "The Outer Limits"? When there's a computer involved, it's
clickety-clackety of relays working.
Old TV can be fun. The other day, I saw an episode of "Get Smart"
showing a bank of CDC tape drives, followed by a "Missio
On 2015-Jun-23, at 2:58 PM, Alexandre Souza wrote:
>> Now, if someone actually have one of these devices, and can verify that it
>> actually bricks it, then we can talk. Until then, all I have is the above
>> information from Elnec, which do not suggest anything beyond showing a
>> message, and
On 6/23/2015 12:50 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
hp drives yes...
data printer no... correct name is data products
and a neat printer if you were just printing the first 20 col zone
I remember something about this model banging it out at 800 or 1000 lpm
II do have an 80 column Dat
> [It's] one thing to copy a design and stick your own name on it,
> another to clone something and stick the legit company name and logo
> on it. Why can't they brick a fake if they want to [...]
The same reason I'm not allowed to smash your car window, even if your
car bears an unauthorized cop
When it's done, I hope he mounts it all on a black rectangular table with
20 shiny metal legs on each the opposing longer sides.
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> That one's been around for awhile. Ever watch any old reruns of 60's era
> "The Outer Limits"? When there's a c
Hi Guys
I am off to Friedrichshafen for a few days and will be
back on 1-JUL-2015.
The next two batches of front panels will be:
8/e Type A
1. Old switch position markings (1 and 6 vertical)
2. Line around switch Area
3. Vertical lines b
On 06/23/2015 04:11 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
When it's done, I hope he mounts it all on a black rectangular table with
20 shiny metal legs on each the opposing longer sides.
I seem to remember that the Packard-Bell PB250 used only about 400
transistors. (Magnetostrictive delay line memory). Lo
Which of course harks back to the Bletchley Park systems built on
narrower but similar
British Post Office 19" Relay Racks. The predecessors of the modern 19"
racks.
On 23/06/2015 20:34, Brent Hilpert wrote:
On 2015-Jun-23, at 12:27 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
On 23/06/2015 17:20, Phil Budne wr
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe wrote:
>
> 1)
> Yes they copied the PDP11 and the VAX but, They made an VAX Chip that's
> compatible to the VAX730...and we all know that the VAX730 ist not an one
> chip solution as the russian chip is.
Ooh! Is there any chance I could get my hands
well how many transistors does our table top straight pdp-8 have?!
In a message dated 6/23/2015 4:26:38 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
ccl...@sydex.com writes:
On 06/23/2015 04:11 PM, drlegendre . wrote:
> When it's done, I hope he mounts it all on a black rectangular table with
> 20 s
On 06/23/2015 11:59 AM, Holm Tiffe wrote:
Think that's ok for you?
(not for me as for most people on the world, but they simplay take the
rights to do this which really pisses me of)
If yes, for sure you want to call it stupid that IBM still want's to get
payd for the old Mainframes, don't you?
It looks like you've refactored/consolidated a bit - or were there
components you hadn't installed at VCF-E?
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 2:56 PM, wrote:
> Great save!
>
> By the Way Evan I like the photo of that self contained Syston Donner
> Analogue computer in your book!
> Ed# _www.smecc
They didn't burn it, they just made it inoperable when the owner wanted to
install new legit copyrighted firmware. If you kept it as is when purchased
nothing would have happened.
If you took that fake unit into a company shop for free user upgrades I
think they would have the right to rip off
On 06/23/2015 06:05 PM, TeoZ wrote:
They didn't burn it, they just made it inoperable when the owner wanted
to install new legit copyrighted firmware. If you kept it as is when
purchased nothing would have happened.
If you took that fake unit into a company shop for free user upgrades I
think th
FTDI recently took the same approach of having their driver deliberately brick
counterfeit chips, rather than throwing an error and refusing to talk to them.
This is why I no longer purchase their chips or design them into my projects. A
vendor who distributes drivers which deliberately brick ha
On 2015-06-24 02:06, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On Jun 23, 2015, at 09:32 , Holm Tiffe wrote:
1)
Yes they copied the PDP11 and the VAX but, They made an VAX Chip that's
compatible to the VAX730...and we all know that the VAX730 ist not an one
chip solution as the russian chip is.
Ooh! Is ther
> On Jun 23, 2015, at 19:24, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>
> Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip came, DEC
> had already produced the uVAX II, which is also just a chip, but much faster
> than an 11/730, so it's not exactly as if the Russians were outperforming
> what
http://www.ebay.com/itm/N1839VZh2-USSR-Soviet-Russian-Clone-of-DEC-Micro-VAX-11-II-Support-IC-/380857961090
close but no cigar
On 6/23/2015 8:43 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 19:24, Johnny Billquist wrote:
>>
>> Well, unless I'm mistaken, when the Russian VAX-11/730 on a chip
from same seller
http://www.ebay.com/itm/L1839VM1-USSR-Soviet-Russian-Military-32-bit-CPU-Clone-of-DEC-Micro-VAX-11-II-/151342349060?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item233cb4fb04
bingo !
On 6/23/2015 8:58 PM, wulfman wrote:
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/N1839VZh2-USSR-Soviet-Russian-Clone-of-DEC-Micro-VA
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 03:28:21PM -0700, Chuck Guzis wrote:
> followed by a "Mission Impossible" episode where Mr. Phelps
> receives his instructions via 4-track tape cartridge (which
> self-destructs as usual).
Even the ones that were not spy-approved did that :-)
mcl
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 03:42:54PM -0700, jwsmobile wrote:
> II do have an 80 column Dataprinter that looks like the one in the photo,
> not a Data Products.
There were two different companies, Data Printer and DataProducts.
Confused everyone even at the time IIRC.
mcl
On Tuesday, June 23, 2015 at 11:42, Marc Verdiell wrote:
> Thanks David.
You're welcome.
> I might put NiMH batteries instead
That may not be advisable, given the continuous constant-current trickle
charger in the CPU power supply. The Panasonic "Nickel Metal Hydride
Technical Handbook"
On 06/23/2015 09:38 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
Even the ones that were not spy-approved did that :-)
Ain't that the truth!
--Chuck
Zitat von Sean Caron :
I've spent a lot of time researching computer engineering in the Eastern
Bloc ...
...being somewhat isolated from what was canonical over here,
they also had their share of quite unusual indigenous designs ... a few of
the papers I have read discuss experiments with hybrid
On 6/23/2015 9:39 PM, Mark Linimon wrote:
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 03:42:54PM -0700, jwsmobile wrote:
II do have an 80 column Dataprinter that looks like the one in the photo,
not a Data Products.
There were two different companies, Data Printer and DataProducts.
Confused everyone even at the
Oh, I want the whole computer, not just the CPU chip.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
Can anyone recommend suitable rotary switches for either the A (vertical)
or B (angled) configuration?
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Rod Smallwood <
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys
> I am off to Friedrichshafen for a few days and will be back
> on 1-JUL-2015.
>
>
On Tue, 23 Jun 2015, Phil Budne wrote:
If I were going thru the trouble, I'd want build a TX-0 clone!
I think it would me more interesting to build a replica of a pdp-8
straight-eight using significantly-reduced flip chips with surface-mount
parts.
--
David Griffith
d...@661.org
A: Becaus
the only one that did the hi speed reduced cols was that table top
80 col one for dataproduicts that I know of. our larger ones did not.
by the way that small dataproducts also had a floor pedestal that made
it a tall tower and you could open door for paper box...
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