Re: Front Panels Personal Update

Sorry Rod, I'll try to shoot you pricing/availability later this week. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Guys > > I'm just about done sending first batch front panels > Needless to say I have had some feed back on reqirements. > As well

Re: RK06 alignment pack

On 2015-06-18 08:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? Is it capacity? Yes. The RK07 is double the capacity. Could this pack be used to align an RK07 ? I don't think so. The RK06 and RK07 used the same design for the packs, but the RK07 packs twice the

XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

On 17/06/2015 12:16, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: Off topic for a moment but, do you know perchance what's going to happen to XH558 at the end of this year? I've never had a chance to see a flying Vulcan, and it's too bad I won't ever get to see one (nor did I get to see the awesome display o

Re: RK06 alignment pack

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:39:19AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-06-18 08:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >I ask because we have an RK07 at the Update Computer Club. > > I didn't know. When did we get one, and from where? We had one many > years ago that I dumped. We might still have the p

Front Panels Personal Update

On 18 June 2015 at 01:49, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > DEC used their own font, It can be identified like this > The letter a is formed by a circle with a vertical bar on the right hand > side. > This font is used for titles and the like in handbooks of this period. > > I'm going to have go at buildin

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > The Chalet font family is very similar to "the DEC font". < > > PS. One might find said fonts in a certain torrent... There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo in blocks. That may be a start. http://n

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Jonathan Katz wrote: > > There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo > in blocks. That may be a start. > > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html > If I recall, isn't the logo "just" Helvetica? I think, not

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 07:50:02AM -0400, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Jonathan Katz wrote: > > > > There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo > > in blocks. That may be a start. > > > > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_histor

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

On 18/06/2015 12:50, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Jonathan Katz wrote: There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo in blocks. That may be a start. http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html If I recall

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > The article pointed to by URL above specifically state that it isn't. > > /P > Yeah, I realized that once my phone's *bleep* internet actually loaded the page... about two minutes after I sent the mail. That article is quite neat, I must say.

XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

On 18 June 2015 at 06:06, Pete Turnbull > wrote: > I'd have directed you to http://www.vulcantothesky.org/ if Rob hadn't > already. Sometimes, though, it flies near places not on the official list - > for example, I've seen it fly almost over our house (we live near Elvington) > on two different F

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > That article is quite neat, I must say. I always thought that the logo was > only Helvetica, but it's interesting to see what it really is. The only reason I know about the article was due to Google, but that was because I used t

DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Katz wrote: > There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo > in blocks. That may be a start. > > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html "The logo up to then had been the letters DEC in bl

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 07:20:51AM -0700, Chris Osborn wrote: > > On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Katz wrote: > > > There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo > > in blocks. That may be a start. > > > > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_di

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:25 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > I suppose it's this one: > > http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/still-image/dec/pdp-1_online/dec.flip_flop_201.102633142.lg.jpg I found that one a couple of times but it just looked like a rectangle to me, not “plug-in cards”, so

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: I suppose it's this one: http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/still-image/dec/pdp-1_online/dec.flip_flop_201.102633142.lg.jpg I recall seing a better version of the logo in some manual on bitsavers or similar. Can't find it now. I have a

Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

It’s Droste Week on RetroBattlestations! Inspired by a couple of different posts, I thought it would be fun to do a challenge where people don’t just post a picture of their computer, but they display the picture of their computer *on* their computer and post that! It’s going quite well and I re

RE: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Chris Osborn Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:21 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update) On Jun 18, 2015, at 4:42 AM, Jonathan Katz wr

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Jun 18, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >> I suppose it's this one: >> >> http://archive.computerhistory.org/resources/still-image/dec/pdp-1_online/dec.flip_flop_201.102633142.lg.jpg > > I have a copy laying around as PostScript. I’d

Re: DEC Logo

Yup thats it There were a couple of them in a glass case in the entrance to Parker Street (DEC HQ after they moved out of the Mill) There was a story (There was always a story at DEC) that one engineer had put a lump of lead in two of them and used them for bookends. My favorite story was on

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

On 18/06/2015 14:58, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: Did you get a chance to see both of the flightworthy Lancasters together last year? I didn't since I'm not in the UK and the time that FM213 was over in the UK intersected with my university terms. Sadly not, I've only ever seen one at a ti

Re: DEC Logo

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > > ... > My favorite story was one I know to be true. The story was that Ken Olsen > drove a Pinto (cheap amercian car) and parked with everyone else. > Sure enough there was this tatty Pinto parked in the main car park. To a > depth of

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Chris Osborn wrote: I have a copy laying around as PostScript. I?d love to get a copy! Let me find it. -- Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projec

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Chris Osborn wrote: I have a copy laying around as PostScript. I?d love to get a copy! http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html -- Follow me on twitter: @FozzTexx Check out my blog: http://insentricity.com -- Cory Smelosky http://

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

- Original Message - From: "Christian Gauger-Cosgrove" To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:58 AM Subject: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc On 18 June 2015 at 06:06, Pete Turnbull > wrote: I'd have directed you to http://w

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Jun 18, 2015, at 8:46 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Chris Osborn wrote: > >> I?d love to get a copy! > > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html > That’s the mo

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Mike Stein wrote: > > - Original Message - From: "Christian Gauger-Cosgrove" > > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:58 AM > Subject: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc > > >> On 18 June 2015 a

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

>> > My son is stationed at Beale AFB (where the SR-71s were originally based) and > 7963 is on static display there. I've been up to it (you can actually > *touch* it!) They are wicked cool looking and *big*. They also have a > static display of the drone which could be launched from the b

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > >>> >> My son is stationed at Beale AFB (where the SR-71s were originally based) >> and 7963 is on static display there. I've been up to it (you can actually >> *touch* it!) They are wicked cool looking and *big*. They also have a >>

Re: Front Panels - First shipments arrive in US

On 6/15/2015 10:21 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Good Morning All Panel Fans!! According to the shippers the first consignments of PDP-8/e front panels were delivered in the US yesterday, Confirmations and comments to me please. Rod Smallwood Got mine in great shape. Looks like it will be

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: > > >> On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: >> >>> My son is stationed at Beale AFB (where the SR-71s were originally based) >>> and 7963 is on static display there. I've been up to it (you can actually >>> *touch* it

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Chris Osborn wrote: It’s Droste Week on RetroBattlestations! Inspired by a couple of different posts, I thought it would be fun to do a challenge where people don’t just post a picture of their computer, but they display the picture of their computer *on* their computer a

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:32 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: > > >> On Jun 18, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote: >> >> >>> On Jun 18, 2015, at 9:18 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote: >>> > My son is stationed at Beale AFB (where the SR-71s were originally based) and 7963 is on static

Re: Documation card readers for sale

Oh butts I sent that before I proofread. I'm in the Pacific Northwest, about three or four hours east of Vancouver BC. I have access to freight services should you take that route but for your wallet I'd strongly recommend some sort of local or negotiated pickup. ;0 >>Are the readers in question t

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

On Thursday (06/18/2015 at 07:50AM -0400), Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > > Also "typing" on a phone sucks. Phoning on a "phone" sucks too. -- Chris Elmquist

RE: Components Data Books

> Yes! I am totally with you; just being able to flip through the books and > peruse a broad swath of the vendor's product line, has the potential to Precisely... I haven't a clue what is available now, other than the really common parts the local suppliers stock. You just can't go to a website

RE: RK06 alignment pack

> > What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? > > Is it capacity? Yes, in particular number of cylinders. Both have 3 heads and IIRC same number of sectors. The RK07 has narrower heads than the RK06. AFAIK the RK07 will not even read an RK06 pack (I am not sure the servo will manage to l

RE: Documation card readers for sale

> > That bloody EDAC connector is not cheap. I ended up sourcing one for like > $60. On the other hand you can hunt around for scrap 50 conductor telco No, but it is still available (easily) and it is very well made. Or at least the ones I have used are. The back shells are designed so you can f

RE: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

From: Chris Osborn Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:03 AM > That’s the modern Digital logo, not the DEC logo that looks like the plug-in > cards. I thought you had a ps of the original pre-1957 DEC logo. Pre-1957??? That would be a good trick...

Re: DEC Logo (was: Front Panels Personal Update)

On Jun 18, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Rich Alderson wrote: > >> That’s the modern Digital logo, not the DEC logo that looks like the plug-in >> cards. I thought you had a ps of the original pre-1957 DEC logo. > > Pre-1957??? That would be a good trick… I’m just going along with what that web site sa

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

On 2015-06-18 18:41, geneb wrote: On Thu, 18 Jun 2015, Chris Osborn wrote: It’s Droste Week on RetroBattlestations! Inspired by a couple of different posts, I thought it would be fun to do a challenge where people don’t just post a picture of their computer, but they display the picture of thei

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

I went to the website, but still can't figure out what this has to do with chocolate... --Chuck

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 2:32 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > I went to the website, but still can't figure out what this has to do with > chocolate… Here’s the answer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droste_effect It’s a bit obscure unless you are Dutch and over 45 or so years old. paul

Re: XH558 - was Re: using new technology etc

Hi Christian, I'm guessing by the CLLI code in your sig, you're maybe close to St. Catharines, ON, CA? If that's true, I just wanted to let you know that - IIRC - there is a SR-71 on static display within a car trip of your location in Kalamazoo, MI at the Kalamazoo Air Zoo. It's actually a B-mod

Altos ACS 8000 8500 board Schematic

Altos ACS 8000 8500 board schematics/chapter from the 8000 hardware supplement posted here: http://vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000/ b

Re: Altos ACS 8000 8500 board Schematic

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:31 AM, william degnan wrote: > > Altos ACS 8000 8500 board schematics/chapter from the 8000 hardware > supplement posted here: > http://vintagecomputer.net/altos/8000/ There’s a diagram there but no schematics. If you want the schematics for the 8500 board they are her

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

On 06/18/2015 11:39 AM, Paul Koning wrote: It’s a bit obscure unless you are Dutch and over 45 or so years old. Ah, that explains it, thanks. I like Droste chocolate, but don't recall seeing the recursive label. Land o' Lakes butter, however, I'm familiar with. --Chuck

Re: Front Panels Personal Update

Also "typing" on a phone sucks. Phoning on a "phone" sucks too. "I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure out how to use my telephone." - Bjarne Stroustrup

Re: Have you seen Droste Week on RetroBattlestations?

Chris Osborn wrote: >[...] I thought it would be fun to do a challenge where people don't just > post a picture of their computer, but they display the picture of their > computer *on* their computer and post that! Not quite within these rules, but here are two cases of old computers showing draw

Re: Documation card readers for sale

Just a heads up that both units are now pending a sale. If one or either completely fall through I'll bump this back up here on the list. Thanks to all who inquired. -John

Re: Documation card readers for sale

> On Jun 18, 2015, at 17:02 , John Ball wrote: > > Just a heads up that both units are now pending a sale. If one or either > completely fall through I'll bump this back up here on the list. Thanks to > all who inquired. Yay! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: RK06 alignment pack

On 06/18/2015 01:02 PM, tony duell wrote: I also seem to remember that this pack is used with a special alignement meter, not a 'scope. And that there are special tools for moving the heads I found a sort-of user manual for this on bitsavers, but no schematics of the meter, so no easy way to re

Re: Altos ACS 8000 8500 board Schematic

Sorry, you're right, the chapter has only a board layout. On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 2:03 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: > > > On Jun 18, 2015, at 10:31 AM, william degnan > wrote: > > > > Altos ACS 8000 8500 board schematics/chapter from the 8000 hardware > > supplement posted here: > > http://vintageco

Re: OT: Steam Shovels [Was: Re: using new technology on old machines. Was: PDP-12 Restoration at the RICM]

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 08:25:46AM +0200, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 09:26:38PM +0200, Alexander Schreiber wrote: > > > > That has been done before for production purposes. I kid you not. > > I believe you. I found this on youtube, looks like the have some sort of > generat

Wanted to buy Atari Vidcom one or two. $$

Wanted to buy Atari Vidcom model one or two. $$ see _www.smecc.org/atati-tty/atari_3.gif_ (http://www.smecc.org/atati-tty/atari_3.gif) also looking for any ad material, posters or manuals actual or scanned drop me a line offlist thanks Ed Sharpe Archvist for SMECC