It's too bad that I catch myself thinking this so frequently these days,
but "thank goodness I got mine" ... before the scene blew up... I guess the
good times of just pulling carloads of cool stuff out of the dumpster for
nothing couldn't go on forever... I do tend to agree; at least it's getting
I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ... a lot of this stuff is
big and heavy ... I just can't imagine a thief coming in and carting away
PDP-11s, VAX-11s, RP/RL/TU drives, IBM mainframes, whole racks and the like
... I can hardly move some of this stuff I have as one guy and it is
certai
Hi Tony,
I don't mean to throw shade on your HP 1630 or your K100 ... just in my own
personal opinion, when I see a HP 1630 on eBay for $100 or a HP 1660 on
eBay for $100 ... and you see this all the time ... I think going with the
1660 is the better deal ... you do make a good point about schemat
Aha, West Michigan! I know WOOD TV 8... I've got an Amiga 500 myself that
came from Cable Access TV in Kalamazoo. A friend of mine still in town has
a few more. Whodathunkit ... there's still some neat vintage gear out there
in the wild up here in MI after all :O Funny. There's a legacy system for
We have an Amiga with the Newtek video goodies inside but alas are
missing the keyboard was given to us by one of our cable station folks here
in
AZ Does anyone have extra keyboards!?
Thanks Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC
In a message dated 6/13/2015 12:24:21 A.M. US Mountain Standard
Well... we will accept anonymous entries for the listthat will be
public but the submitter will have to send us a nice photo of the unit
with s/n tag etc and their smiling face next to it for the non
published files! <>
I think the only people this month that have to
Well ... some things really are not more expensive... the money is
just worth less
back when I used to buy pdp-8 computers for 100-200 dollars ... like
24+ years ago cars were a bunch cheaper too by far
There are some things that went crazy like the Apple I but there
I have an old computer collection in the workshop.
I also have a gun collection in the house :-)
If anyone can *still* successfully make off with my pdps, they can
bloody have them! :D
Mike
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 2:52 AM, Sean Caron wrote:
> I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ...
Heh! The will have to pry my PDP 8 from my cold dead hands to get it
<>
In a message dated 6/13/2015 1:14:19 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
tmfdm...@gmail.com writes:
I have an old computer collection in the workshop.
I also have a gun collection in the house :-)
If anyone can *sti
That is NEAT! what application are they using it for and who is doing
the maint. on it?
Probably an interesting story there!
Ed#
In a message dated 6/12/2015 5:48:28 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
tdk.kni...@gmail.com writes:
been told of one in winnipeg. havent seen it to confirm t
PDP-S ( and Classic 8 too) in the intake form . . yes we are working up
an entry for with different fields in it.
Be aware though as soon as you say you HAVE ONE OF THOSE on this
list or any other
you have tagged yourself as having one. if someone wants your details
it does
Just to bring closure to this (short) thread, I've solved the below
issue. I noticed that in addition to the 31-second beep symptom that
the terminal was also no longer saving my settings after a power cycle
and so I figured the back-up battery was dead (I'd replaced it when I
got it a few yea
John - Ref your 8S below - Happy to add this to the list.
any other good background info as to prior users etc?
yes if you can get the S/N will add that.
I need to get the S/N of the SMECC one too I will have to take 3
helpers over to warehouse to exhume it.
I will also g
That is a beauty!
You moved all that gear from UK to USA?
In a message dated 6/12/2015 2:26:10 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
tmfdm...@gmail.com writes:
I have one, restored, was running when stored but not powered up in
some considerable time.
Serial number unknown; IIRC correctly
Al if you can run him down and find s/n's that would be great...
what are the s/n's at CHM on their units?
Ed#
In a message dated 6/12/2015 2:25:30 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
a...@bitsavers.org writes:
On 6/10/15 12:11 PM, Michael Thompson wrote:
>> I know of 17 PDP-
Rich.
did you want physical address listed too?
also need both s/n's
correctedurl at _www.smecc.org/pdp-8.htm_
(http://www.smecc.org/pdp-8.htm)
That address has not been current since 2010 or so.
Please use http://www.LivingComputerMuseum.org instead.
Thanks!
Rich
Rich Alders
Well, its the same with enigma's. all remaining machines are registered with their serialnumbers, So selling after stealing becomes very difficult. that is why a database with
serialnumbers connected to people is crucial.
On 13-06-15 09:55, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
I think the only people th
good point Simon!
Ed#
In a message dated 6/13/2015 2:57:09 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
sim...@dds.nl writes:
Well, its the same with enigma's. all remaining machines are registered
with their serialnumbers, So selling after stealing becomes very difficult.
that is why a database w
> From: Sean Caron
> it's a shame if the financial barrier to entry to the hobby is keeping
> potentially interested & enthusiastic people away...
I understand and agree (very much!) with your concern, but I don't think it's
going to be an issue: for every $1M Apple I, there are a zi
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 04:41:26AM -0400, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
>John - Ref your 8S below - Happy to add this to the list.
>any other good background info as to prior users etc?
>yes if you can get the S/N will add that.
Will do on next visit. Dunno about past user (IIRC it has
> I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ... a lot of this stuff is
> big and heavy ... I just can't imagine a thief coming in and carting away
> PDP-11s, VAX-11s, RP/RL/TU drives, IBM mainframes, whole racks and the like
So I suppose I will just repost what I said on 8 May 2015 (not that
> Well, its the same with enigma's. all remaining machines are registered with
> their serialnumbers, So selling after stealing becomes very difficult. that
> is why a database with serialnumbers connected to people is crucial.
This is wrong. There are a fair amount of Enigmas in collections that
So I have a bunch of older DEC slides (for BA11 boxes, RK05's, etc) which are
rusty. No problem, I have a sand-blaster, but what's the grey coating on
them, and how do I reproduce it once I have them clean?
I saw Corey Cohen's really wonderful presentation at VCFE about restoring old
computers
On 6/13/2015 2:14 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
I have an old computer collection in the workshop.
I also have a gun collection in the house :-)
If anyone can *still* successfully make off with my pdps, they can
bloody have them! :D
Mike
Where did I put my shovel? Sigh 20+ years of digging however.
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015 04:57:48 -0400
couryho...@aol.com wrote:
> Al if you can run him down and find s/n's that would be
> great... what are the s/n's at CHM on their units?
There is an online catalog for CHM artifacts. Physical objects listed
include their serial numbers (if available).
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:20:19AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>So, what _is_ that grey coating - and, more important, how (if at all) can it
>be reproduced these days?
Wild guess: some kind of oxide? I agree that it doesn't look like paint
or powder coat.
John Wilson
D Bit
Sorry, I deleted the posts from earlier from someone looking for TVGA
software. I have at least the TVGA 8900C Disk 2 Utilities disk, on 5.25"
floppy. Disk 1 will probably turn up soon. Is this what was wanted?
Cindy Croxton
Electronics Plus
1613 Water Street
Kerrville, TX 78028
830-370-
something totally off topic from the 8S machines there are some
trs80 radio shack things that are huge like the MODEL 2 was but these were
later and had a 3 number designator ? there are many as I remember one
will be kept another kept for offsite displays but the others will
gooo
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, John Wilson wrote:
Re theft: yeah there's no way a random house burglar would bother
Are the middle of the night, in the rain, in the gutter, catalytic
converter thefts actually worth it?
Besides theft issues, there can be additional reasons for anonymity.
consider the
Soon, the model 4 was made available - same basic machine with 80x24 video (V
51x16),
ooops.
64 characters per line on the 1. Maybe it was Osborne 1 with 51?
yea osborne was 50 or 51...
In a message dated 6/13/2015 9:33:00 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
ci...@xenosoft.com writes:
> Soon, the model 4 was made available - same basic machine with 80x24
video (V
> 51x16),
ooops.
64 characters per line on the 1. Maybe it was Osborne 1 with
well it is amazing what people that want meth will do...
they remind me of the creatures mutated in I AM LEGEND
but that is why Will needs to add a good alarm system on his building
and get 2 friends... the pitbulls named byteemintheass and
snapoffurballs if they in case the
Fred wrote:
> Maybe it was Osborne 1 with 51?
The original Osborne 1 displayed 52x24, but it was a window into a
128x32 memory. Osborne later offered an 80-column upgrade.
I have a friend with some of these who would like to get a full set of
data on this card. He has the handbook writeup with the jumper settings
and some other info.
Would like full disclosure, schematics, engineering info, etc.
This board is a Q bus card which has keyboard interface, and di
Fred and others - I stand correctedthese are probably model 12 or
maybe model 16... did they network the Xenix ones? maybe that is why
there are many of them. I recall one large RS printer was with the
group?
Guess I should have looked closer last time I was in that
Don't forget the Model 6000 and 6000HD: Basically Model 16 in the Model 12
style case.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
I always wonder what the rational was on the "6000" name. I understand Tandy
wanted to move away from the "TRS-80” name, hence the "Tandy 6000”, but it was
really just a slightly enhanced TRS-80 Model 16B. Now, the “16” name makes
sense…16-bit OS support on the added cards. Of course. at the
On 06/13/2015 11:53 AM, Peter Cetinski wrote:
I always wonder what the rational was on the "6000" name. I
understand Tandy wanted to move away from the "TRS-80” name, hence
the "Tandy 6000”, but it was really just a slightly enhanced TRS-80
Model 16B.
It was my impression that the "Tandy" bran
It might be cadmium
On 13/06/2015 16:45, John Wilson wrote:
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:20:19AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
So, what _is_ that grey coating - and, more important, how (if at all) can it
be reproduced these days?
Wild guess: some kind of oxide? I agree that it doesn't look like
>
> Hi Tony,
>
> I don't mean to throw shade on your HP 1630 or your K100 ... just in my own
> personal opinion, when I see a HP 1630 on eBay for $100 or a HP 1660 on
> eBay for $100 ... and you see this all the time ... I think going with the
Of course. And I my comments are my personal opinion
After all this time unless the configuration in the box is the same as
the label on the back
then all you have is the serial number of the box and I dont think empty
system boxes are worth much.
On 13/06/2015 12:57, Noel Chiappa wrote:
> From: Sean Caron
> it's a shame if the finan
> In addition to the model 1, . . .
> The model 1 line was converted from a "component" system to a single box.
> For those not familiar, it resembled a Northstar Dimension. Keyboard,
> screen, two 5.25" floppies in a terminal like case. That was the model 3.
> Default disk format was double den
PDP-8/e Panel Variants
I now have a list of _possible_ (not actual) variations.
Its not quite the same as what I had before.
In addition I have heard there may be colour variations in some cases.
A is the current shipping version
A No dividing lines between lamp groups
Posit
The double cassette ports.
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:08 PM, tony duell wrote:
>
> Trivia question : What feature was present on all disk based M1s (in fact any
> M1 with an expansion
> interface) but not on any M3 or M4 machines?
cadmium not good for you... beryllium is even worse!
Ed#
In a message dated 6/13/2015 12:51:52 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com writes:
It might be cadmium
On 13/06/2015 16:45, John Wilson wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:20:19AM -0400, Noel Chiappa
On 6/13/15 8:20 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
what's the grey coating on
them
molybdenum
I'm having trouble with the password reset procedure (but will resolve it by
the end of this message). When I run AUTHORIZE, I get this:
$ run authorize
run authorize
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SECURESHRP
-CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file PIKE$DQA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SECURESHRP.EXE;2
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, tony duell wrote:
Trivia question : What feature was present on all disk based M1s (in
fact any M1 with an expansion
interface) but not on any M3 or M4 machines?
composite video out. I used that, a LOT for classroom lectures, etc.
1771 FDC
dual cassette port?
or unreliabi
Ever looked at an old radio chassis?
They had what I was led to believe was a grey cadium plating over the steel
The boxes BA11-ES and the like had I think a coat ing was some kind of
Nickel
My 11/34A has a greyish coating on the tiltable runners.
On 13/06/2015 21:35, couryho...@aol.com wrote
Specifically molybdenum disulphide, sometimes called Molycoat. It is
for lubrication on high load surfaces.
--
Will
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Al Kossow wrote:
> On 6/13/15 8:20 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>>
>> what's the grey coating on
>> them
>
>
> molybdenum
>
>
>
>
> I'm having trouble with the password reset procedure (but will resolve it by
> the end of this message). When I run AUTHORIZE, I get this:
>
[snip]
> $ set noon
> set noon
> $ spawn /nowait sys$system:startup.com
> spawn /nowait sys$system:startup.com
> %DCL-S-SPAWNED, process SYSTEM_1 spaw
this might help
https://www.google.com/shopping/product/7383451835334313012?q=molybdenum+disulfide+coating&safe=off&noj=1&biw=1024&bih=629&prds=paur:ClkAsKraXyh_1xad5vi9oE0I8GS1YznlVNSS2tGKR-iUpH71NEXpImtA4Kq4eR4KA_86tvG9WTQ51CzYkVNoTTtf1VA7rw9TasccwTuI9dlNZ4utFu-Vfi5tDxIZAFPVH72olz1yqEpQprTbIoGwC
Yes I use it in Leica cameras in artic weather.. but is that what gives the
slides that anodized look
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
Original message
From: William Donzelli
Date: 06/13/2015 2:29 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic a
Yes that is what was used... and yes too much is bad.. beryllium is way worse
. William Hansen at varian died from itEd#
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Original message
From: Rod Smallwood
Date: 06/13/2015 2:23 PM (GMT-07:00)
To: gene...@classi
On 06/13/2015 02:29 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
Specifically molybdenum disulphide, sometimes called Molycoat. It is
for lubrication on high load surfaces.
Will, I think you mean "Molykote", the trade name for the stuff.
But is that really it? I've got a few pounds of dry moly disulfide here
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 14:29, Peter Coghlan wrote:
> Did I say that?
>
> I meant:
>
> $ spawn /nowait @sys$system:startup.com
>
> (sorry)
Aha! Now I understand.
Ok, I have the SYSTEM password reset, and the license pak installed. Next task
is to perform backups. First attempt to do that has
> But is that really it? I've got a few pounds of dry moly disulfide here and
> it's nasty stuff--gets everywhere and is a black-silver in color.
Probably. The stuff can be mixed with a resin binder and thinly
painted on surfaces, like rack slides.
--
Will
I'm in awe of people who can build and design these devices
http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2015-06-13-sio2sd-for-atari.htm
Terry (Tez)
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 16:28, Terry Stewart wrote:
>
> I'm in awe of people who can build and design these devices
> http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2015-06-13-sio2sd-for-atari.htm
>
> Terry (Tez)
It looks really slick. I wish Lotharek would make a UNIBUS2SD! :)
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6
Very good progress.
Suggest you initialize and mount the tapes first, then do the backup.
$init mta0:/density=1600 JUN2015
$mount mta0: JUN2015
Substitute your actual tape device name for mta0: and need to use /density as
applicable.
Jerry Weiss, WB9MRI
j...@ieee.org
> On Jun 13, 201
I figured out pre-initializing the tape by trial and error, but now I'm stuck
at knowing how to respond when I get the OPCON request for another tape. The
system drive has too much data for one tape, but at least I managed to make it
through writing one tape.
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 16:46, Jerry
Incidentally, today's session would have consumed 130 pages of greenbar if I
hadn't used a terminal emulator. VMS sure has a lot to get off its chest! :)
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> I figured out pre-initializing the tape by trial and error, but now I'm stuck
> at knowing how to respond when I get the OPCON request for another tape. The
> system drive has too much data for one tape, but at least I managed to make
> it
Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the BACKUP
program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way a task can
be suspended in UNIX with ^Z?
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 17:28, Glen Slick wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Mark J. Blair wrot
I do hope not; that stuff is *seriously* toxic.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 7:52 AM, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
> It might be cadmium
>
>
>
> On 13/06/2015 16:45, John Wilson wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 11:20:19AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote:
>>>
>>> So, what _is_ that grey coating - and, more impor
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the
> BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way a
> task can be suspended in UNIX with ^Z?
>
I'm no expert, but I think you can sometimes
Thanks! I will try that out.
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:01, Glen Slick wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>> Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the
>> BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way
>>
From: Sean Caron
>
>I dunno, guys, that might be a little paranoid ... a lot of this
>stuff is big and heavy ... I just can't imagine a thief coming
>in and carting away PDP-11s, VAX-11s, RP/RL/TU drives,
>IBM mainframes, whole racks and the like
>
Nope. My wife used to work in commercial real e
If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I believe
you can do the following
^Y
$spawn
$
$reply/enable=all
initialize additional tapes as needed (prior tape should have rewound…)
mount tape
$reply/to=MESSAGEID
$exit
$continue
Jerry Weiss WB9MRI
j...@ieee
Thanks! I'll look up all of those commands to understand them better.
^Y looks familiar. I think this is the second time I have learned about it. :)
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:40, Jerry Weiss wrote:
>
> If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I
> believe you can do
that is neat where can we get one!?
In a message dated 6/13/2015 4:28:28 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
te...@webweavers.co.nz writes:
I'm in awe of people who can build and design these devices
http://www.classic-computers.org.nz/blog/2015-06-13-sio2sd-for-atari.htm
Terry (Tez)
has anyone experimented with this on parts? when dealing with dirty
equipment?
if so what works best for liquid sulutions?
ive got a shelf of 15in bass drivers and some amps thinking of building
something to clean some audio boards i aquired on the cheap though maybe
some folks here would have
That is neat where can we get one!?
You can order there here:
http://lotharek.pl/product.php?pid=63
Terry (Tez)
On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 2:54 PM, wrote:
> that is neat where can we get one!?
>
>
> In a message dated 6/13/2015 4:28:28 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> te...@webweavers.co.n
>
>The double cassette ports.
Exactly. The switching relay in the expansion interface.
Did anyone ever use this feature?
> > On Jun 13, 2015, at 4:08 PM, tony duell wrote:
> >
> > Trivia question : What feature was present on all disk based M1s (in fact
> > any M1 with an expansion
> > interf
nothing like running them through the dishwasher with hot water and good
soap.
I repair old arcade boards and i have found nothing better.
after they are hot from the wash you blow them off with compressed air
till try
and leave them in a rack in case you missed any water.
as long as they dry fast
I have one of his regular floppy disk emulators. I haven't actually used it
yet, but it is put together very nicely. When I get around to trying out the
Atari 8 bit world for the first time, I guess I will need an SIO2SD. I gather
that those are must-haves, much like the CFFA3000 is for the Appl
Anyone interested in a Kaypro II in decent shape, complete with a couple of
keyboard overlays?
for trade or for sale...
thanks!
-Ben
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