Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-30 Thread dwight via cctalk
tape archiving Be glad you don't have to deal with this kind of thing: http://everist.org/pics/misc/20200719_6831_wet_tapes.jpg A bunch of PDP 8 system tapes. That were literally soaking in liquid water when recovered. Yes, that is mildew. They are nearly dried out now. Still to be deter

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 29, 2020, at 11:22 PM, Steve Malikoff via cctalk > wrote: > > ... > Paul's reader idea sounds fine. I have a super simple idea, how about a > 3D-printed guide with a geared hand crank and a bracket for attaching a > mobile phone looking down at the > tape running through the guide

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-30 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:15 AM, Guy Dunphy via cctalk > wrote: > > Be glad you don't have to deal with this kind of thing: > http://everist.org/pics/misc/20200719_6831_wet_tapes.jpg > > A bunch of PDP 8 system tapes. That were literally soaking in liquid water > when recovered. > ... > The

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-30 Thread Guy Dunphy via cctalk
Be glad you don't have to deal with this kind of thing: http://everist.org/pics/misc/20200719_6831_wet_tapes.jpg A bunch of PDP 8 system tapes. That were literally soaking in liquid water when recovered. Yes, that is mildew. They are nearly dried out now. Still to be determined if they can be

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread dwight via cctalk
From: cctech on behalf of Bill Degnan via cctech Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 2:14 PM To: cctech Subject: paper tape archiving Hi all. I was wondering if there are any good online resources on reading for the purpose of archiving 8-bit papertapes of unknown origin. I have been reading

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Paul said > On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Eric Moore wrote: > A couple notes: > 1) My reader when set to lower baud rates physically stops and starts the > reader. This jerks the tape and causes vibrations that can be severe at some > speeds. Some readers do this at all speeds. For example, any

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread systems_glitch via cctalk
Correct, the DSI NC2400 can be set up for different levels. It does require a mechanical changeout for the punch, I think it's just a guide swap on the reader. It's stepper feed but if you set it up for 2400 bps (default) and let it run, tape motion is smooth and continuous. HP 2100 series optical

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread Eric Moore via cctalk
Absolutely would be good to have. I would prefer a slow smooth pull through the reader than slow and jerky or fast and smooth which are my current options. There are some kit paper tape readers out there that just need a pinch roller added to be ideal. On 5, 6, and 7 bit tape, I believe the DSI N

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 29, 2020, at 6:52 PM, Eric Moore wrote: > > ... > A couple notes: > > 1) My reader when set to lower baud rates physically stops and starts the > reader. This jerks the tape and causes vibrations that can be severe at some > speeds. Some readers do this at all speeds. For example

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread Eric Moore via cctalk
That is all solid advice. Here is a pic of my setup (I stopped running it through the old reader as bypassing it turned out to work fine) https://i.imgur.com/26pfKhv.jpg Most of my focus is on ensuring there is no damage to the tape when it is read. You can see the paper tape catch (hopper) to t

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 7/29/20 2:14 PM, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: I am wondering if there any persons who have a systematic process they'd like to share for this kind of work. Find a program that will display and capture binary data on the platform, operating system and reader of your choice. Surprisingly,

paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
Hi all. I was wondering if there are any good online resources on reading for the purpose of archiving 8-bit papertapes of unknown origin. I have been reading tapes as text and also as binary, 8/n/1 thinking that's going to capture everything. I load into a hex editor, and if necessary convert to

Re: paper tape archiving

2020-07-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Jul 29, 2020, at 5:14 PM, Bill Degnan via cctech > wrote: > > Hi all. > I was wondering if there are any good online resources on reading for the > purpose of archiving 8-bit papertapes of unknown origin. I have been > reading tapes as text and also as binary, 8/n/1 thinking that's goin