Re: Intel VS Motorola (Was: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-23 Thread Tony Duell via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 11:14 PM Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > Intel has never understood interrupts or good cpu architecture. > > Look at the segment:offset architecture of the 8086 and of course it's > > single > > interrupt (without the s

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-22 Thread Peter Corlett via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 21, 2022 at 07:12:07PM -0400, Sean Conner via cctalk wrote: [...] > Agree here. I loved the 68K and have fond memories of writing programs in > it. But while the x86 has been Frankensteined into 64 bits, I don't think > I can see the 68K ever being a 64-bit architecture. I don't think t

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-21 Thread Sean Conner via cctalk
It was thus said that the Great Mike Katz via cctalk once stated: > > I could spend pages just describing how the 68K chip just blows away the > 8086 considering they were both released at about the same time. Agree here. I loved the 68K and have fond memories of writing programs in it. But

Re: Intel VS Motorola (Was: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-21 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 4/21/22 15:14, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote:>> Intel has never understood > interrupts or good cpu architecture. >> Look at the segment:offset architecture of the 8086 and of course it's >> single interrupt (without the separate interrupt contro

Intel VS Motorola (Was: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-21 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 21 Apr 2022, Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: Intel has never understood interrupts or good cpu architecture. Look at the segment:offset architecture of the 8086 and of course it's single interrupt (without the separate interrupt controller chip) vs the 68000 somewhat orthogonal 32 bit archi

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-21 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
cking faster than the 6809. On 4/21/2022 1:51 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Apr 21, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Dave Mitton via cctech wrote: Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 14:03:48 -0400 From: Paul Koning To: Chris Zach , "cctalk@classiccmp.org" Subject: Re: interesting DEC Pr

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-21 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 21, 2022, at 2:47 PM, Dave Mitton via cctech > wrote: > > Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 14:03:48 -0400 > From: Paul Koning > To: Chris Zach , "cctalk@classiccmp.org" > > Subject: Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay > …. > > ➢ That

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-21 Thread Dave Mitton via cctalk
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2022 14:03:48 -0400 From: Paul Koning To: Chris Zach , "cctalk@classiccmp.org" Subject: Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay …. ➢ That said, you'd think that DMA would make a 1:1 interleave controller much more feasible. And Bjoren also mentioned

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-20 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 12:27 PM 4/20/2022, Paul Koning wrote: >Maybe a different guy, since Pro development was in the late 1970s to early >1980s. Perhaps his son? Or the guy returned to DEC, or listed his career differently on LinkedIn for other reasons? It's not a common name. - John

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-20 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 20, 2022, at 1:37 PM, Chris Zach via cctalk > wrote: > >> Maybe a different guy, since Pro development was in the late 1970s to early >> 1980s. >> paul > > Probably. Still would be interesting to see what the board actually is/does, > I wondered why they never did DMA transfe

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-20 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Maybe a different guy, since Pro development was in the late 1970s to early 1980s. paul Probably. Still would be interesting to see what the board actually is/does, I wondered why they never did DMA transfers for the Pro, maybe being a single user system it was pretty much pointless

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-20 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 19, 2022, at 3:38 PM, John Foust via cctalk > wrote: > > At 01:40 PM 4/19/2022, Bjoren Davis via cctalk wrote: >> Looking at the photo I see the name "Dave Iacobone". I wonder if he is >> still around and remembers that board. > > https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-iacobone-0a11436

Re: interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-19 Thread John Foust via cctalk
At 01:40 PM 4/19/2022, Bjoren Davis via cctalk wrote: >Looking at the photo I see the name "Dave Iacobone". I wonder if he is still >around and remembers that board. https://www.linkedin.com/in/dave-iacobone-0a11436/ At DEC from 1993 to 1996, now at iRobot. - John

interesting DEC Pro stuff on eBay

2022-04-19 Thread Bjoren Davis via cctalk
Hello Retronians, I just saw some interesting DEC Professional items on eBay from smhelectronics261 (https://www.ebay.com/sch/smhelectronics261/m.html): 1. Pro-350 (and presumably -325) video board https://www.ebay.com/itm/294933607768 2. RD (hard disk) controller https://www.ebay.com/itm/2