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From: Dave Woyciesjes: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 7:17 AM Ahh, the sweet smell of paranoia... :) Listen, if they want to track & watch you, they're doing it already. Using text-only email won't help much; give it up. Oh, they are out to "get me", alright. They've admitted as much repeatedly.

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It was thus said that the Great Dave Woyciesjes once stated: > On 07/07/2015 09:06 PM, Sean Conner wrote: > > > > ...But I've tried using a GUI to check email and frankly, I > >found it too painful to use. It wasn't that the GUI was confusing or > >inconsistent, but that it was *way too slow*.

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On 07/08/2015 07:30 AM, Dave Woyciesjes wrote: You said you use TBird, right? Have you looked in to the LookOut Add-In for that ailment? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/lookout/ Thanks for that tip--it definitely looks to be useful. --Chuck

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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! :-) On Wed, 8 Jul 2015, Fred Cisin wrote: We had some difficulties with college administrators that resulted in, "The question is not 'are you paranoid?'; the question is 'are you paranoid enough?'" ("There is no expectation

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Oh boy! Another long, rambling and pointless email rant thread! -- Ian S. King, MSIS, MSCS, Ph.D. Candidate The Information School Archivist, Voices From the Rwanda Tribunal Value Sensitive Design Research Lab University

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Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you! :-) We had some difficulties with college administrators that resulted in, "The question is not 'are you paranoid?'; the question is 'are you paranoid enough?'" ("There is no expectation of privacy for any actions taken on t

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> Listen, if they want to track & watch you, they're doing it already. > Using text-only email won't help much; give it up. While I didn't write the text (which I cut) that the above quote is responding to, I too stick to text-only for security reasons - but not just because of the "them" watching

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On 07/08/2015 10:25 AM, Todd Goodman wrote: * Dave Woyciesjes [150708 10:17]: On 07/07/2015 07:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some

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On 07/07/2015 11:24 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 07/07/2015 07:27 PM, wulfman wrote: yes html email gets deleted for the most part I don't have that option--customers send whatever they want. Another annoyance is when they send attachments in that Outlook winmail.dat format. I think that Libre o

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On 07/07/2015 09:06 PM, Sean Conner wrote: ...But I've tried using a GUI to check email and frankly, I found it too painful to use. It wasn't that the GUI was confusing or inconsistent, but that it was *way too slow*. Sluggish to display, and painfully slow to download (it's not unusual for

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* Dave Woyciesjes [150708 10:17]: > On 07/07/2015 07:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > > From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM > >> If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that > >> would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google > >> already ind

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On 07/07/2015 07:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search eng

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On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Sean Conner wrote: [2] mutt. I was forced to upgrade a decade ago because elm was no longer maintained and non-Y2K compliant (I think that's why I switched). Alpine Forever! :) g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of

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jwsmobile wrote: On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. There are some on this lis

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From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 5:47 PM On 7/7/2015 4:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: I might want to follow your link, if I have sufficient interest and trust, but I want to have to make that decision *before* entering the spy filled, all-singing, all-dancing hype arena. I agree with

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On 07/07/2015 6:14 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: John Robertson Subject: Re: email gripe Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT To: gene...@classiccmp.org, "discuss...@classiccmp.org":On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Reply-To: pinb...@telus.net, "Gen

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On 07/07/2015 08:29 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's see if my reply has the same problem as Chris cited. Yep! It took "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" and parsed it into: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic

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On Tue, 7 Jul 2015, Chuck Guzis wrote: Let's see if my reply has the same problem as Chris cited. Yep! It took "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" and parsed it into: gene...@classiccmp.org, discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts

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On 07/07/2015 07:27 PM, wulfman wrote: yes html email gets deleted for the most part I don't have that option--customers send whatever they want. Another annoyance is when they send attachments in that Outlook winmail.dat format. I think that Libre office can open it. --Chuck

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On 07/07/2015 06:41 PM, jwsmobile wrote: Thunderbird does have a bad habit of interpolating and remembering typos, however, so if you at some point in time type in gene...@classicmp.org, there is an entry in the Thunderbird address book called "collected addresses". It may have your general @ c

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yes html email gets deleted for the most part On 7/7/2015 7:13 PM, Jay West wrote: > Chris wrote... > > Boy, count another vote against HTML-izing this list if that's what's being > considered. > - > No, forcing the list to send email as HTML has never been done, nor is it > being considered.

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Chris wrote... Boy, count another vote against HTML-izing this list if that's what's being considered. - No, forcing the list to send email as HTML has never been done, nor is it being considered. I do believe there is an option where each member can set their subscription to be plain text,

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On 7/7/2015 6:14 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: Begin forwarded message: From: John Robertson Subject: Re: email gripe Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT To: gene...@classiccmp.org, "discuss...@classiccmp.org":On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Reply-To: pinb...@telus.net, "Gen

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Begin forwarded message: > From: John Robertson > Subject: Re: email gripe > Date: July 7, 2015 at 6:03:49 PM PDT > To: gene...@classiccmp.org, > "discuss...@classiccmp.org":On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Reply-To: pinb...@telus.net, "General Discuss

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It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: > > > On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: > >It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: > >>sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy > >>paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice.

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On 07/07/2015 4:44 PM, Chris Osborn wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" No matter which platform anyone is using, it’s always Thunderbird that creates

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On 7/7/2015 5:43 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 3:43 PM, jwsmobile wrote: If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search engi

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On 7/7/2015 4:18 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search eng

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On Tuesday (07/07/2015 at 04:18PM -0700), Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > > For me, HTML mail is disdained because it's a security nightmare. > I don't want to worry about transparent tracking images, cookies, > javascript, and who knows what else they've invented or will invent. > > I just want to re

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On 2015-07-08 01:44, Chris Osborn wrote: On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" No matter which platform anyone is using, it’s always Thunderbird that creates

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At 07:18 PM 7/7/2015, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: >For me, HTML mail is disdained because it's a security nightmare. >I don't want to worry about transparent tracking images, cookies, javascript, >and who knows what else they've invented or will invent. That is one reason why I still run Eudora Pro

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On Jul 7, 2015, at 4:18 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > using Thunderbird Which I’ve noticed has problems parsing the "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" No matter which platform anyone is using, it’s always Thunderbird that creates the gene...@classiccmp.org address into

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On 07/07/2015 03:43 PM, jwsmobile wrote: I just don't see inconveniencing an entire list because a few people want to run on internet connected 286 machines, with attached ASR33's. And to say that should carry much weight on selecting the format of the email is pretty inconsiderate to everyone.

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From: jwsmobile: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 3:43 PM If there were a technical reason to keep it in a simple format that would be fine, but as Al K pointed out quite some time ago, Google already indexes all of this quite fine as it and most search engines do, so the list is text searchable. For m

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On 7/7/2015 12:43 PM, Sean Conner wrote: It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. There are some on this list (such as I) tha

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>> sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy >> paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. This is a client-side issue; there is no need to uglify the rest of the email just because someone has an email reader that doesn't know what to do with URLs. >> H

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It was thus said that the Great jwsmobile once stated: > > sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy > paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email > does that. There are some on this list (such as I) that do not use a graphical email clien

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sending live URL's in the text that don't require a multi step copy paste, or even save email edit, feed to lynx would be nice. Html email does that. thanks Jim On 7/7/2015 7:44 AM, dwight wrote: What happened to email. If your into looking at something, look at the source of this simple e

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What happened to email. If your into looking at something, look at the source of this simple email. What is all that html code for? This is just a few simple text strings with nothing special needed. Dwight