It's not just a matter of size, but also of maintenance. Tony says, I have
the docs, I can maintain it - but do you want to chase down a logic defect
among a gazillion small- and medium-scale integration ICs? And the bus
connections? And the wire wrap? And the microcode? (I have done this.)
A
Ive got a large sgi altix 350 machine running here almost 24/7, uses quite
a bit of power. Rivals the 2 air conditioners on power consumption. Power
is not an issue, if i do get something bigger then ill just run the altix
less and power up the vax. New house has an air conditioned office in the
ga
Oh, a couple people asked my location. I'm in Vero Beach Florida.
I take it the buried vax 11/780 you found has been sold off by now? I would
love to have one of the original larger machines such as the 780, although
one of the smaller desktop machines would probably be a more sane decision
to start off with.
thanks again. I will. I guess I should check my 4000-200 too.
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 11:33 PM, Glen Slick wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:23 PM, william degnan
> wrote:
> >
> > You're saying yes there is a battery in this machine?
>
> MicroVAX 3100, VAXserver 3100,
> InfoServer 100 and Info
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 8:23 PM, william degnan wrote:
>
> You're saying yes there is a battery in this machine?
MicroVAX 3100, VAXserver 3100,
InfoServer 100 and InfoServer 150/150 VXT
Maintenance Guide
EK-A0372-MG.B01
http://manx.classiccmp.org/collections/antonio/dec/MDS-1997-10/cd1/VOL001/035
ok. I will check it asap. Thanks for the info. basically this is a box
turns on and works...so I have not spent much time other than just change
the PW and access the system, connect to the internet quickly.
You're saying yes there is a battery in this machine?
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:57 PM,
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 7:13 PM, william degnan wrote:
> The Microvax 3100 model DV-31BT4-A - what "number" is that model?
> Originally I thought it was a "30" but then I found that there are 3100-30
> nameplates, so I must be wrong. Was there just a plain vanilla Microvax
> 3100? Now you have me
Not that I doubt you but where is the DV-31BT4-A specifically referenced?
How do you know that this is the KA41-A 10 or 20?
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Glen Slick wrote:
> On Jul 1, 2015 7:13 PM, "william degnan" wrote:
> >
> > The Microvax 3100 model DV-31BT4-A - what "number" is that mod
On Jul 1, 2015 7:13 PM, "william degnan" wrote:
>
> The Microvax 3100 model DV-31BT4-A - what "number" is that model?
> Originally I thought it was a "30" but then I found that there are 3100-30
> nameplates, so I must be wrong. Was there just a plain vanilla Microvax
> 3100? Now you have me thi
The Microvax 3100 model DV-31BT4-A - what "number" is that model?
Originally I thought it was a "30" but then I found that there are 3100-30
nameplates, so I must be wrong. Was there just a plain vanilla Microvax
3100? Now you have me thinking I need to check for a battery. I need to
track down
> I found that for some MicroVAXen, such as my 4000-300, there is a Panasonic
> cordless phone battery that almost exactly fits where the original TOY battery
> does, and the connector is the same! I've mentioned it here on CC, so the
> part
> number should be in the archives.
Yes, I have done s
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Peter Coghlan
wrote:
> william degnan wrote:
> >
> > I recently got a Microvax 3100 and a VAX 4000-200, very pleased with how
> > easy they are to work with. I have had a lot more issues with
> > Alpahservers. VAX/Aphas running one flavor or another of openVMS.
On 29 June 2015 at 23:04, Johnny Billquist wrote:
> I don't remember if I have the printsets for the 8650, but we (Update)
> sure have quite a lot of documentation for it.
>
>
IIRC I do have some 8600 *training* printsets which I scanned and made
available years ago.
I think some *real* printset
Well if we're all putting down markers, I have an 11/780 and /730; I'd love
a /750 to round out the collection. I used to have one, back in mid 1990s
it was one of the first machines I collected... Got it up and running VMS,
then loaned it to a friend, forgot to ask for it back, lost touch with
fri
william degnan wrote:
>
> I recently got a Microvax 3100 and a VAX 4000-200, very pleased with how
> easy they are to work with. I have had a lot more issues with
> Alpahservers. VAX/Aphas running one flavor or another of openVMS.
>
> I agree with Ian, think the 3100's are a good starter VAX. My
> they are known to multiply on their own...
Well, of course they are. Isn't that what opcode C4 (for example) is for?
-tony
I've been saying for some time that I think VAXen breed in the corners - I
don't quite know where all of these VAXstations came from. (I still want a
VLC, though - just saying.) -- Ian
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Ethan Dicks wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> >
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 9:33 PM, Fred Cisin wrote:
> If you have some storage, then you can lose a microcomputer.
Oh, yeah.
> If you lose a minicomputer, then you have a lot of storage.
I recently found an 11/730 I thought I had to get rid of in 1994...
(turns out I got rid of a spare we bough
On Tue, 6/30/15, Vincent Slyngstad wrote:
>
> > I'll see if I can breed the one I just got. :)
>
> Do *not* post pictures. I'm still trying to forget seeing
> the ones from that other guy.
Don't worry. I don't have any plans to cross breed it with
myself. Besides I doubt VMS would run very w
If you have some storage, then you can lose a microcomputer.
If you lose a minicomputer, then you have a lot of storage.
If you lose a mainframe, then you have ENOUGH storage.
From: Brian L. Stuart: Tuesday, June 30, 2015 5:49 PM
I'll see if I can breed the one I just got. :)
Do *not* post pictures. I'm still trying to forget seeing
the ones from that other guy.
Vince
> they are known to multiply on their own...
Clearly someone who has one (or better more) 780s (or 730s)
needs to start breeding them for the rest of us.
I guess to be fair I should offer that if anyone wants a 3600 and
they can reproduce asexually, I'll see if I can breed the one I just
got. :)
> On Jun 29, 2015, at 01:22 , devin davison wrote:
>
> My main place for looking for hardware has been ebay, although most of what
> im seeing is untested and expensive. Is there a better place to find older
> machines like this?
Back to the original topic: By posting your interest in joining
I still think I would enjoy acquiring an 11/780 series machine someday, when my
wallet recharges and I've had time to excavate enough room out in my barn. But
for now, I'm pretty stoked just to have my little 11/730.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
they are known to multiply on their own...
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Guy Sotomayor wrote:
>
>
> On 6/30/15 4:08 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote:
>
>> I think if I had the opportunity to own a 780 I would do my best to
>> *make* space for it, although I fear it would mean having to rent storage
>
On 6/30/15 4:08 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote:
I think if I had the opportunity to own a 780 I would do my best to
*make* space for it, although I fear it would mean having to rent
storage space. I'd love a 730 too. I am still incredulous that someone
could "lose" or not realise they had a second
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
> Blair
> Sent: 30 June 2015 19:10
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: Where to get a Vax or microvax
>
>
> > On Jun 29, 2015, a
> On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:23 , Guy Sotomayor wrote:
> You *know* you have too much stuff and it's packed too tightly when you can
> "lose" a VAX 11/780!
This reminds me of when I was exploring a surplus yard, and found a *fire
truck* buried in a pile. Walked right by it a few times before I not
1) Start small. You can always add to the collection later.That often
occurs, sometimes with accompanying amnesia of the actual transaction.
2) If you possess genes for “like to take things apart” and “ability to put
things back together *** ” start with a Q-Bus VAX. The number and types
> >> Well, ok, if your list was intended as a "first VAX" only list, then
> >
> > That is what I believe the OP was asking for,
>
> Yes. But I would never dream of suggesting a VAX-11/780 as a "first VAX"
> either... I think most people would not even know what to do if
> presented with 500 Kg of
I recently got a Microvax 3100 and a VAX 4000-200, very pleased with how
easy they are to work with. I have had a lot more issues with
Alpahservers. VAX/Aphas running one flavor or another of openVMS.
I agree with Ian, think the 3100's are a good starter VAX. My 3100 system
has two SCSI externa
Re: 11/780 as first VAX: no. That's just silly. I restored a pair of
11/785s (one a field-updated /780) for LCM. They're a wonderful machine,
and I really really want one - after I win the lottery and can afford the
power and space for it and can take the time to get and keep it running.
Get a
On 2015-06-29 21:35, tony duell wrote:
Well, ok, if your list was intended as a "first VAX" only list, then
That is what I believe the OP was asking for,
Yes. But I would never dream of suggesting a VAX-11/780 as a "first VAX"
either... I think most people would not even know what to do if
I've been looking for a printset for the VAX 6000-600 for a long time.
I've never found one.-- Ian
On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 12:35 PM, tony duell
wrote:
> >
> > Well, ok, if your list was intended as a "first VAX" only list, then
>
> That is what I believe the OP was asking for,
>
> > fair eno
>
> Well, ok, if your list was intended as a "first VAX" only list, then
That is what I believe the OP was asking for,
> fair enough. I would not consider most of those machines as good first
> VAXen either. Although, the 6000 is actually not that hard, nor some of
> the small 8000-machines, su
On 2015-06-29 21:21, tony duell wrote:
So, where would you place a VAX8650 in there? Or the 6000- or
7000-series? :-D
(Or, drool, a 9000?)
Those come under the 'many other families' I would argue that those machines
are much rarer and much harder to maintain than the 3 families I suggested for
>
> So, where would you place a VAX8650 in there? Or the 6000- or
> 7000-series? :-D
> (Or, drool, a 9000?)
Those come under the 'many other families' I would argue that those machines
are much rarer and much harder to maintain than the 3 families I suggested for
a _first_ VAX. In fact having see
On 2015-06-29 18:08, tony duell wrote:
on real hardware. What would be the best machine for a beginner to VAX
Hardware to start out with?
I think you need to think very carefully about what you want this machine to do.
The ideal VAX for me is not going to necessarily be the ideal VAX for you.
> On Jun 29, 2015, at 10:28 AM, tony duell wrote:
>
>>
>> To give folks an idea of how much stuff I had jammed into my (many) storage
>> units, as I was
>> going through them trying to figure out what I'd keep and what I would
>> "dispose" of, I found a
>> VAX 11/780 that I didn't know that I
> To give folks an idea of how much stuff I had jammed into my (many) storage
> units, as I was
> going through them trying to figure out what I'd keep and what I would
> "dispose" of, I found a
> VAX 11/780 that I didn't know that I had. I knew that I had one in storage
> as I was digging/sort
>
> To give folks an idea of how much stuff I had jammed into my (many) storage
> units, as I was
> going through them trying to figure out what I'd keep and what I would
> "dispose" of, I found a
> VAX 11/780 that I didn't know that I had. I knew that I had one in storage
> as I was digging/so
> On Jun 29, 2015, at 9:08 AM, tony duell wrote:
>
>> on real hardware. What would be the best machine for a beginner to VAX
>> Hardware to start out with?
>
> I think you need to think very carefully about what you want this machine to
> do.
> The ideal VAX for me is not going to necessarily
> on real hardware. What would be the best machine for a beginner to VAX
> Hardware to start out with?
I think you need to think very carefully about what you want this machine to
do.
The ideal VAX for me is not going to necessarily be the ideal VAX for you.
In general there are 3 classes of VA
where are you located?
On Jun 29, 2015 6:06 AM, "devin davison" wrote:
> I have had an interest in the DEC VAX line of computers for some time now
> and am trying to find a good place to get a system to start out with. The
> main pourpose being to have a machine to use VMS on. I have been running
Hi Devin,
Assuming you are in CONUS, checking eBay and hanging out on this list is
probably the best places to check ... I would suggest for you a VAXstation
3100 series ... especially if you can find a 3100/76 for not too much
money, it makes a pretty good machine... I paid maybe $130 for mine,
"
I have had an interest in the DEC VAX line of computers for some time now
and am trying to find a good place to get a system to start out with. The
main pourpose being to have a machine to use VMS on. I have been running
VMS on emulated hardware via SIMH, however i would like to move to running
on
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