On 2020-08-16 19:08, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote:
> I do, but my Sage II is currently packed away. I'd have to make a disk
> copy, I dont have the ability to image the boot disks otherwise. If you
> can find no other source let me know and I will make you an OS disk or two.
If
On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 2:22 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> Thanks!
> It looks like you are right, playing a little with the RAM banks,
> finally got me errors, so at least one chip is dead.
> Will take few days, until my replacements arrive, but now I
> have 384k of RAM ;-)
>
> Still crashes, but
On 2016-11-05 14:25, tony duell wrote:
I have one question:
How does it check, how much RAM is in it?
Boot shows 128K, but the board has 512K
Incidentally there is a .zip file on Bitsavers called SageSources. Unpack it,
and in Sources1 look at PROM2.TXT. That is part of the 68000 source
for
> I have one question:
>
> How does it check, how much RAM is in it?
> Boot shows 128K, but the board has 512K
Incidentally there is a .zip file on Bitsavers called SageSources. Unpack it,
and in Sources1 look at PROM2.TXT. That is part of the 68000 source
for the boot ROM and contains the RAM
>
> > It appears that there's a DIP shunt block on the CPU board where each shunt
> > corespond to a row of DRAMs. You should check all 4 positions are shorted.
>
> According to the technical manual:
>
> www.bitsavers.org/pdf/sage/sageandstride/Technical_Manual-1983.pdf
>
> they should all be o
On 2016-11-04 13:56, tony duell wrote:
Crashed after a while, and only shows 128K (512k is populated),
It appears that there's a DIP shunt block on the CPU board where each shunt
corespond to a row of DRAMs. You should check all 4 positions are shorted.
According to the technical manual:
lliam degnan wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:44 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
I also got last week a IBM PC 5170, if I could get it working,
it should be able to write the SAGE II floppies, right?
if it's a 96 tpi drive and you have a newer OS like DOS 6.2 running on it.
OK, I got th
great to hear
On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:40 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> On 2016-10-30 15:40, william degnan wrote:
>
>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:44 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
>>
>
> I also got last week a IBM PC 5170, if I could get it working,
>>> it sh
> Crashed after a while, and only shows 128K (512k is populated),
>
It appears that there's a DIP shunt block on the CPU board where each shunt
corespond to a row of DRAMs. You should check all 4 positions are shorted.
I think that the power-on test checks the first 128K RAM, then sees if the
On 2016-10-30 15:40, william degnan wrote:
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:44 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
I also got last week a IBM PC 5170, if I could get it working,
it should be able to write the SAGE II floppies, right?
if it's a 96 tpi drive and you have a newer OS like DOS 6.2 runni
I have a disk labeled Sage II Cp/m 68 (000) Kermit. That is what the OP
was looking for, for his newly acquired Sage II.
On Sun, 30 Oct 2016, william degnan wrote:
I don't have a HD drive attached to my imaging computer, which is the
original point I made when I first replied to your
On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:44 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> On 2016-10-30 06:56, william degnan wrote:
>
> I have a disk labeled Sage II Cp/m 68 (000) Kermit. That is what the OP
>> was looking for, for his newly acquired Sage II.
>>
> Great!
>
> We were discussing
On 2016-10-30 06:56, william degnan wrote:
I have a disk labeled Sage II Cp/m 68 (000) Kermit. That is what the OP
was looking for, for his newly acquired Sage II.
Great!
We were discussing how to
image theae disks, I don't have a 96tpi - capable drive set up on my
current disk im
ikely there was Kermit for it as all versions of
>> kermit were based on
>> the same effort. Myself I never used it as I had the alternates like
>> modem-7 or MEX.
>>
>> A basic file transfer program was a trivial thing.
>>
>> Allison
> I have a disk la
based on
> the same effort. Myself I never used it as I had the alternates like
> modem-7 or MEX.
>
> A basic file transfer program was a trivial thing.
>
> Allison
I have a disk labeled Sage II Cp/m 68 (000) Kermit. That is what the OP
was looking for, for his newly acquired Sage
On 10/30/2016 04:01 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> On 2016-10-29 09:21, allison wrote:
>> On 10/29/2016 09:55 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
>>> Was there a version of kermit for CP/M ?
>> yes and there were more than a few modem/terminal programs.
>
> for CP/M 68K?
>
When people say CP/M its nearly al
On 2016-10-29 09:21, allison wrote:
On 10/29/2016 09:55 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
Was there a version of kermit for CP/M ?
yes and there were more than a few modem/terminal programs.
for CP/M 68K?
On 10/29/2016 09:55 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> On 2016-10-29 06:32, william degnan wrote:
>> Quick question...
>
> I have one for you too ;-)
>
> Was there a version of kermit for CP/M ?
yes and there were more than a few modem/terminal programs.
Allison
>
> Cheers
>
>
On 10/29/2016 05:29 PM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> Is it worth it, to get TEAC 55 for them as replacement? The ones I
> have, have broken fronts ...
If you need jumper settings for the 55FG, I've got them.
--Chuck
IIRC, TEC FB-504 is 80 track double density.
IIRC, the Teac 80track double density is the FD55F
(55G is 1.2M, 55FG is intended to be strappable as either)
On Sat, 29 Oct 2016, emanuel stiebler wrote:
TEC, sorry !
Ok, so both seems to be 80 track ...
Those should be imagable (is that the right w
On 2016-10-29 18:05, Fred Cisin wrote:
On Sat, 29 Oct 2016, emanuel stiebler wrote:
So both are 5.25", half height.
one is a mitsubishi M4853-342MG,
IIRC, that's a 80track double density drive. (aka "720K", aka "quad
density")
(the 4854 is the 1.2M version)
IIRC, the 4853 was used in the Tand
On Sat, 29 Oct 2016, william degnan wrote:
Ok...I'll try it tomorrow and post, you can let me know how it goes. I'll
prob figure it out when I analyze the disks using the tools, just not sure
if being pascal they have any weirdness
not that would matter for imaging.
But, of course p-system was
IMD can't determine the interleave. I am using a DD drive, not HD.
According to this page
http://www.thebattles.net/sage/
they're 96TPI - I don't have a system set up for this at the moment. I
have the kermit disk for the Sage II though. My B drive has an 8" drive
that thin
On Sat, 29 Oct 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote:
I don't know if this applies to the SAGE II or not, but 22DISK has two
SAGE IV definitions, for 48 tpi and for 96 tpi diskettes, as derived
from samples that I have.
The Sage IV sample disks formats in XenoCopy were a CP/M type file
system, in 48tp
On Sat, 29 Oct 2016, emanuel stiebler wrote:
So both are 5.25", half height.
one is a mitsubishi M4853-342MG,
IIRC, that's a 80track double density drive. (aka "720K", aka "quad density")
(the 4854 is the 1.2M version)
IIRC, the 4853 was used in the Tandy 2000, so that might be a good place
t
; wrote:
> I don't know if this applies to the SAGE II or not, but 22DISK has two
> SAGE IV definitions, for 48 tpi and for 96 tpi diskettes, as derived
> from samples that I have.
>
> --Chuck
>
>
I don't know if this applies to the SAGE II or not, but 22DISK has two
SAGE IV definitions, for 48 tpi and for 96 tpi diskettes, as derived
from samples that I have.
--Chuck
On 2016-10-29 15:08, william degnan wrote:
On Oct 29, 2016 4:53 PM, "Fred Cisin" wrote:
Of course, but I just wanted to do this guy a favor and image the disks,
And he really appreciates that!!!
I did not want to set up my system and get all into it and whether I have 80
or 40 track drive
On 29/10/2016 22:08, william degnan wrote:
Of course, but I just wanted to do this guy a favor and image the disks, I
did not want to set up my system and get all into it and whether I have 80
or 40 track drives, and what image disk settings to use..busy week.
If it's any help, all four Sage II
On Oct 29, 2016 4:53 PM, "Fred Cisin" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 29 Oct 2016, tony duell wrote:
>>
>> As you have the machine, and it boots, check the DIP switch settings.
One of the switches is used to indicate if the boot drive is 40 or 80
cylinder.
>
>
> and the model number(s) of the drives will enabl
On Sat, 29 Oct 2016, tony duell wrote:
As you have the machine, and it boots, check the DIP switch settings.
One of the switches is used to indicate if the boot drive is 40 or 80
cylinder.
and the model number(s) of the drives will enable looking up hints as the
specs (although some TM100-4M
>
>
>To know for sure, unless my disks are labeled I will have to set the system
> up and test each disk, to do it right. My Sage II is here:
Oh, you're looking for a CP/M-68K kermit. CP/M on its own normally
refers to the 8080/Z80 OS. I wondered if you were looking for kermi
t; there is.
>
> -tony
>
To know for sure, unless my disks are labeled I will have to set the system
up and test each disk, to do it right. My Sage II is here:
http://vintagecomputer.net/sage/SageII/
looks like one of the disk drives was swapped out, not sure if I did that
or the previous
> > Quick question...
>
> I have one for you too ;-)
>
> Was there a version of kermit for CP/M ?
Acrodding to this page :
http://www.columbia.edu/kermit/cpm.html
there is.
-tony
gs to use it will
> increase the chances I get it right the first time.
The Sage II service manual (it's on the web somewhere, I forget where
I got it from) impilies that some machines have 40 cylinder drives, others
have 80 cylnder drives. I think it is normal to have 2 drives of the sa
On 2016-10-29 06:32, william degnan wrote:
Quick question...
I have one for you too ;-)
Was there a version of kermit for CP/M ?
Cheers
On 2016-10-29 06:32, william degnan wrote:
Quick question...I am setting up disks to be imaged from various requests
including yours. Do you know the tracks/sectors of the sage disks, off
hand?
Sorry, I got my machine finally home two days ago.
During transport, it was really bend out of shape
Quick question...I am setting up disks to be imaged from various requests
including yours. Do you know the tracks/sectors of the sage disks, off
hand? I don't necessarily plan to set up my sage to test the disks, just
image the disks, to save time if I knew what settings to use it will
increase t
On 2016-10-13 20:00, william degnan wrote:
I may have some software that is missing from that site, if so I will image
and upload will let you know
Thanks!
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:56 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> On 2016-10-13 17:16, william degnan wrote:
>
> Did you get this from Ebay?
>>
>
> Nope, just waited few years until it popped up ;-)
>
> http://www.thebattles.net/sage/
>>
>
> Yes, I know that one. I also got some documentation with it,
On 2016-10-13 17:16, william degnan wrote:
Did you get this from Ebay?
Nope, just waited few years until it popped up ;-)
http://www.thebattles.net/sage/
Yes, I know that one. I also got some documentation with it,
checked already if it is all on the web and it is.
Weirdly, some documents
On Thu, Oct 13, 2016 at 11:02 AM, emanuel stiebler wrote:
> Hi all,
> finally found myself a SAGE II.
> (no software)
>
> Anybody could help me out with the floppies for it?
>
> Was there a kermit version for it?
>
> Cheers & thanks
>
Did you get this from Ebay?
http://www.thebattles.net/sage/
Hi all,
finally found myself a SAGE II.
(no software)
Anybody could help me out with the floppies for it?
Was there a kermit version for it?
Cheers & thanks
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