Re: SWTPC 6800 Weirdness

2016-09-10 Thread Brad H
Okay, I have it all dialed in now! With that iffy memory board swapped out, the system works beautifully. I did have some trouble loading Altair BASIC but after looking at a video of someone running it I discovered an extra line that appeared to be in the Altair patch file and also a couple o

Re: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-07 Thread Chris Elmquist
On Wednesday (09/07/2016 at 08:04AM -0700), Brad H wrote: > > Thanks Chris. I figured it was something like that with my first MP-M. I am > curious though why simply setting another board to cover 8000-BFFF won't > allow the system to operate in that board's absence. It bothers me that I'm >

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-07 Thread Brad H
Ahhh.. okay, maybe I misunderstood. I was reading '4096 words of 8 bit RAM', I don't know 'words' that well so I put it in a calculator and it was telling me it was 8K. But docs suggested the original MP-M came with 2k. So setting the board # jumper to 4, if it was at 2K, would run $4000 to $

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-07 Thread Brad H
-Original Message- From: Chris Elmquist [mailto:chr...@pobox.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2016 6:13 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts ; Brad H ; 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness Both MIKBUG

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-07 Thread Chris Elmquist
---Original Message- >From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of >william degnan >Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 2:52 PM >To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > >Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800 weirdness > >> >> >> > >>

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread Brad H
Okay I think I'm starting to figure this out a bit. Beginning with basics, I cleaned up the contacts on all the SS50 pins. The system seems to power up more reliably now. Next, I poked around in the monitor to figure out exactly which addresses the modified MP-M board was dealing with. Since

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread Brad H
I don't have the right caps to try with the MP-M so I'll have to wait. But I did try again setting my DRC boards to A000. And when the machine is turned on, it does respond, but it just produces garbage characters on the terminal. Sometimes, two, sometimes three, or a whole line of them. I

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread Brad H
I did a capacitor check on the modified MP-M board. On the 100uf/16v one down at the bottom center, the most I get is 430uf and then it starts dropping. I can't seem to get a proper reading out of the same one on the upper right.. that's the same on both MP-M boards. So I'm wondering if I'd

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread Brad H
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william degnan Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 2:52 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800 weirdness > > > > > > > >Brad, > >

Re: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread william degnan
> > > > > > > >Brad, > >You'll need to make electrical measurements, from the system checkout in > >the manual. You very possibly will have marginal components that need to > >be replaced, but it's best to try to locate which is bad rather that to > replace at random. > > >A000 is not the same pl

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread Brad H
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of william degnan Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:37 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800 weirdness On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Brad H wrote: > My 6

RE: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread Brad H
-Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Fred Cisin Sent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 11:36 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: SWTPC 6800 weirdness On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Brad H wrote: > My 6800 has been mos

Re: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread william degnan
On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 2:25 PM, Brad H wrote: > My 6800 has been mostly working, but it seems to be occasionally flaking > out. I don't know why. Sometimes you go to power it up, and there's no > response on terminal side. The 'fix' is sometimes to wiggle the memory/CPU > boards and then for s

Re: SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread Fred Cisin
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016, Brad H wrote: My 6800 has been mostly working, but it seems to be occasionally flaking out. I don't know why. Sometimes you go to power it up, and there's no response on terminal side. The 'fix' is sometimes to wiggle the memory/CPU boards and then for some reason it's fine

SWTPC 6800 weirdness

2016-09-06 Thread Brad H
My 6800 has been mostly working, but it seems to be occasionally flaking out. I don't know why. Sometimes you go to power it up, and there's no response on terminal side. The 'fix' is sometimes to wiggle the memory/CPU boards and then for some reason it's fine(ish). There are five cards install