Re: Data recovery (was: Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage)

2022-04-04 Thread Ethan O'Toole via cctalk
For those in the know, how much success - assuming a "money is no object" approach - do data recovery companies have in retrieving data from drives that have a) been overwritten with zeros using dd or similar, and b) been overwritten with random data via a more comprehensive tool? cheers, Jules

Re: Data recovery (was: Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage)

2022-04-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 4, 2022, at 10:55 AM, Warner Losh via cctalk > wrote: > > That's what a sanitize operation does. It forgets the key and reformats the > metadata with a new key. Yes, but the devil is in the details. For example, for the SSD case, it is necessary verify that the flash block that pr

Re: Data recovery (was: Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage)

2022-04-04 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
That's what a sanitize operation does. It forgets the key and reformats the metadata with a new key. Also, with SSDs, any erase block that's erased is going to not have any data that's recoverable. First, the erase voltage is huge, moving the cell to a negative voltage (the only abode that's negat

Re: Data recovery (was: Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage)

2022-04-04 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
> SSD's are a different beast, if you're going to put data > on them that you do not want recovered I would recommend encrypting the > drive before using it, then when done delete/destroy the key. That > should turn your drive into a useless (but format-able) chunk of silicon. That's our take on i

Re: Data recovery (was: Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage)

2022-04-04 Thread Chris Zach via cctalk
Good data Paul! SSD's are a different beast, if you're going to put data on them that you do not want recovered I would recommend encrypting the drive before using it, then when done delete/destroy the key. That should turn your drive into a useless (but format-able) chunk of silicon. C On 4/

Re: Data recovery (was: Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage)

2022-04-04 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 4, 2022, at 10:20 AM, Jules Richardson via cctalk > wrote: > > On 4/3/22 10:51, Eric J. Korpela via cctalk wrote: >> drive removed and destroyed for privacy reason. > > For those in the know, how much success - assuming a "money is no object" > approach - do data recovery companies

Data recovery (was: Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage)

2022-04-04 Thread Jules Richardson via cctalk
On 4/3/22 10:51, Eric J. Korpela via cctalk wrote: drive removed and destroyed for privacy reason. For those in the know, how much success - assuming a "money is no object" approach - do data recovery companies have in retrieving data from drives that have a) been overwritten with zeros using

Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage.

2022-04-03 Thread Eric J. Korpela via cctalk
> > > > > I think in this group, we have plenty of DLT IV tape drives? > How many tapes are we talking? > About 2000. Commercial archiving services seem out of reach price wise.

Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage.

2022-04-03 Thread Sytse van Slooten via cctalk
Ah setiathome. Those systems in the photo will have handled a lot of my personal data - well, compared to random other earthlings. I don't really have fond memories of that series of Sun Enterprise though - what are they, 3000 or 3500? Many a times that I stubbed my toes on that v-shaped thing

Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage.

2022-04-03 Thread Mark Linimon via cctalk
How fortunate that I'm halfway across the continent :-) mcl

Re: SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage.

2022-04-03 Thread emanuel stiebler via cctalk
On 2022-04-03 11:51, Eric J. Korpela via cctalk wrote: From here: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85870&postid=2096776#2096776 They are bog standard Sun Enterprise systems, drive removed and destroyed for privacy reason. They are only interesting for what they've done. By

SETI@home (ca. 2000) servers heading to salvage.

2022-04-03 Thread Eric J. Korpela via cctalk
>From here: https://setiathome.berkeley.edu/forum_thread.php?id=85870&postid=2096776#2096776 They are bog standard Sun Enterprise systems, drive removed and destroyed for privacy reason. They are only interesting for what they've done. By university rules, our group can essentially "permanent lo