Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-17 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
I just checked my 9122C I happen to have open and the interval between index pulses is 199.66mS  which would be 300 RPM, which is good news for me I can now proceed with adapting a more common 1.44 drive to replace my broken one. Paul. On 2017-11-17 1:04 PM, Eric Schlaepfer via cctalk wrote:

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-17 Thread Eric Schlaepfer via cctalk
Check your email. How can you tell if it uses a 600 RPM mechanism or not? On Thu, Nov 16, 2017 at 3:17 AM, Eric Smith wrote: > Hi Eric, > > It's not urgent, but when you have a chance, could you dump the 9122C > ROM(s) and take high resolution photos of the controller board? > > Since it does HD

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-16 Thread Eric Schlaepfer via cctalk
Yep, I've been meaning to do that for a while. On Nov 16, 2017 3:17 AM, "Eric Smith" wrote: > Hi Eric, > > It's not urgent, but when you have a chance, could you dump the 9122C > ROM(s) and take high resolution photos of the controller board? > > Since it does HD, I suspect it probably does not

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-16 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2017-11-16 1:45 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: On Nov 15, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Curious Marc wrote: I think that the upgraded B model ROMs in the PRM-85 are supposed to let it use the newer drives. Yes it does. I have an HP 85A, the PRM 85 and a 9122, and that combo works beautifully.

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-16 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
Hi Eric, It's not urgent, but when you have a chance, could you dump the 9122C ROM(s) and take high resolution photos of the controller board? Since it does HD, I suspect it probably does not use a 600 RPM mechanism. Thanks! Best regards, Eric On Nov 15, 2017 17:45, "Eric Schlaepfer via cctal

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-16 Thread Ed via cctalk
PRM-85 ? cost? If I end up getting fascinated with the *% I may want to get one too.. First, I need to get it out and open and see what is all with it.. In a message dated 11/15/2017 5:45:42 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, cctalk@classiccmp.org writes: It'd be interesting t

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 8:27 PM, Curious Marc wrote: > >> I think that the upgraded B model ROMs in the PRM-85 are supposed to let it >> use the newer drives. > Yes it does. I have an HP 85A, the PRM 85 and a 9122, and that combo works > beautifully. I am not sure I ever tried it with high dens

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Curious Marc via cctalk
> I think that the upgraded B model ROMs in the PRM-85 are supposed to let it > use the newer drives. Yes it does. I have an HP 85A, the PRM 85 and a 9122, and that combo works beautifully. I am not sure I ever tried it with high density diskettes though. I could check that if you want. Marc O

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 4:45 PM, Eric Schlaepfer wrote: > > It'd be interesting to find out how well that PRM-85 works. I've laid out a > board for a rough equivalent but I haven't fabbed it out. It may be cheaper > for me to buy that instead. > > I've also got a 9122C but I don't have the mass

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Eric Schlaepfer via cctalk
It'd be interesting to find out how well that PRM-85 works. I've laid out a board for a rough equivalent but I haven't fabbed it out. It may be cheaper for me to buy that instead. I've also got a 9122C but I don't have the mass storage ROM so I can't use it with my 85. Right now I'm using it with

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 09:33, Paul Berger via cctalk > wrote: > > 720K media is pretty easy to get as well, I bought 100 "used" disks from > floppydisk.com, and it is hard to tell they have ever been used and I have > not had any problems with them. I also bought a lot on eBay that where > p

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
720K media is pretty easy to get as well, I bought 100 "used" disks from floppydisk.com, and it is hard to tell they have ever been used and I have not had any problems with them.  I also bought a lot on eBay that where previously used on an Amiga that majority of them where OK and the where a

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2017-11-15 12:40 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: On Nov 14, 2017, at 20:33, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: ok back in my day.. I do not think 85 adressed modern drive of 1.44 meg..? so that was what I was going on.. yes if you can use 1.44 do so.. older new media hard to find... I am s

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread william degnan via cctalk
FYI - I checked related to the HP 85 IEEE port I have an Microcomputer Systems Corporation MSE 9800 and an HP 9122S b On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 11:31 AM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > On Nov 15, 2017, at 01:31, Christian Corti via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> w

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 15, 2017, at 01:31, Christian Corti via cctalk > wrote: > > No, the 9122C has two high-density, two-sided 80 cylinder drives. A drive has > no capacity, this is the function of the on-disk format. > ;-) Ah! That's technically correct, which is, of course, the best kind of correct. W

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Tue, 14 Nov 2017, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: No, the 9122C model has two 1.44M drives. HP made several earlier 3.5" No, the 9122C has two high-density, two-sided 80 cylinder drives. A drive has no capacity, this is the function of the on-disk format. ;-) Christian

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-15 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 10:57 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk > wrote: > > you have me real curious,as to what is in that padded hp case.. What are you referring to? -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
you have me real curious,as to what is in that padded hp case.. Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > On Nov 14, 2017, at 20:44, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > > remember too.. there were hpib 8 inch and 5 inch drives wish I had s

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
yeah I need a,hpib 7970e for our hp 3000 37.. I have back up tapes of the killer 100 board bbs system w/ chat, email, vote and poll and nay me features. I found a printout if source too but no way gonna,try to reenter it... somewhere I have the earlier hp 2000 version of this bbs system bu

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 20:44, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > > remember too.. there were hpib 8 inch and 5 inch drives wish I had saved > some!!! Those would certainly interest me if I happen upon any at a price that I like. Same goes for an HPIB 9 track tape drive. But since the HP Se

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
our computer company in az... computer exchange inc helped gemilogical inst. of America dispose of their hp 86 and 87 computers... wish I had saved one of each.. we have a hp 85 in a padded tote case at smecc museum here.. we need to fire it up. one thing I would like to find us a rack m

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
remember too.. there were hpib 8 inch and 5 inch drives wish I had saved some!!! Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > On Nov 14, 2017, at 20:33, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > > ok back in my day.. I do not think 85 adressed mod

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 20:33, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > > ok back in my day.. I do not think 85 adressed modern drive of 1.44 meg..? so > that was what I was going on.. yes if you can use 1.44 do so.. older new > media hard to find... I am still new to this HP-85 stuff, but I think you a

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
ok back in my day.. I do not think 85 adressed modern drive of 1.44 meg..? so that was what I was going on.. yes if you can use 1.44 do so.. older new media hard to find... Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > On Nov 14, 2017, at 20:11

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 20:11, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > > wondervifcthec9122 drives,will work on 85? > I think I can guess what you meant to say there... :) I’ve ordered a PRM-85 (a modern reprogrammable ROM drawer replacement) which includes the HP-85B version of the Mass Storage ROM, a

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
wondervifcthec9122 drives,will work on 85? Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: > > try 9121 drives!!!. ed! No, thanks. I'd like a 9122C drive. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
there was also a hard drive with the local density floppy in it too Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote: try 9121 drives!!!. ed! Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > On Nov 14, 20

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 7:24 PM, Ed Sharpe via cctalk > wrote: > > try 9121 drives!!!. ed! No, thanks. I'd like a 9122C drive. -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Ed Sharpe via cctalk
try 9121 drives!!!. ed! Sent from AOL Mobile Mail On Tuesday, November 14, 2017 Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: > On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:24 PM, william degnan wrote: > > Those drives are 720 each 3.5". No, the 9122C model has two 1.44M drives. HP made several earlier 3.5" drive units

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 6:35 PM, Paul Berger via cctalk > wrote: > > Well I do have a surplus 9122C however only one drive works and I am on the > other side of the continent. Hmm, I'll consider yours if a more workinger one doesn't appear. That locational thing can be solved if you're willing

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
Well I do have a surplus 9122C however only one drive works and I am on the other side of the continent. Paul. On 2017-11-14 10:16 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk wrote: On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:24 PM, william degnan wrote: Those drives are 720 each 3.5". No, the 9122C model has two 1.44M drives

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
> On Nov 14, 2017, at 5:24 PM, william degnan wrote: > > Those drives are 720 each 3.5". No, the 9122C model has two 1.44M drives. HP made several earlier 3.5" drive units with either 360k or 720k drive capacities. I don't have a compatible IEEE-488 card for use with the HPDrive software. I'm

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
If your old IBM PC IEEE 488 card is one that is compatible with HPDrive http://hp9845.net/9845/projects/hpdrive/ you can use it to emulate a wide variety of HPIB storage several of which are compatible with the 80 series machines.  I am using the Linux version on a Pentium II based industrial c

Re: WTB: HP-85 16k RAM Module and HPIB Floppy Drive

2017-11-14 Thread william degnan via cctalk
Can you use one of those with the old IBM PC IEEE interface card?. Has this been covered here? I did not check but I guess the answer would be maybe. Those drives are 720 each 3.5". Bill On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 6:56 PM, Mark J. Blair via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > I just got my HP