Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-02 Thread William Donzelli
> Depending on the metal being hit by electrons, it take a minimum level > > before Xray emission starts. As I recall, the regulator on a color TV > > was intended to keep it below that threshold. The whole color TV xray scare was mostly just that - a scare. Even the old "roundie" color sets did n

Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-02 Thread dwight
below that threshold. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of drlegendre . Sent: Friday, July 1, 2016 6:27:27 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass " I do remember reading that th

Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread drlegendre .
" I do remember reading that the EHT rectifier diode valves and shunt stabiliser triodes in early colour TVs gave off enough Xrays to be dangerous" This is true. I have here an old HV octal-base tube rectifier that came out of a color set. The vacuum envelope itself is encased in a second outer en

Toss your TV - was Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-07-01 4:08 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Not a very good comparison because one is pointed at your head for months or years and the latter is momentary. ... How much of the health damage of early color TV was due, not to the hardware, but to the quality of the content? (USA networks were/are cl

Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-07-01 4:08 PM, Fred Cisin wrote: Not a very good comparison because one is pointed at your head for months or years and the latter is momentary. On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, tony duell wrote: I am not convinced that the effect is purely cumulative anyway. In other words, a lower intensity (and lo

RE: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread Fred Cisin
Not a very good comparison because one is pointed at your head for months or years and the latter is momentary. On Fri, 1 Jul 2016, tony duell wrote: I am not convinced that the effect is purely cumulative anyway. In other words, a lower intensity (and lower energy) beam for longer might not do a

Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 1, 2016, at 3:27 PM, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > > > > On 7/1/2016 2:03 PM, Toby Thain wrote: >> On 2016-07-01 2:46 PM, Ian Finder wrote: >>> That was my thought too- color CRTs are where this really mattered- which >>> is why I mentioned black and white. >>> >>> I am not overly concern

Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 7/1/2016 2:03 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2016-07-01 2:46 PM, Ian Finder wrote: That was my thought too- color CRTs are where this really mattered- which is why I mentioned black and white. I am not overly concerned, someone in the IRC channel I'm in asked and I thought I'd ping. Even then,

RE: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread tony duell
> > I am not overly concerned, someone in the IRC channel I'm in asked and I > > thought I'd ping. Even then, in a color CRT without any lead shielding, I'd > > bet the emissions pale in comparison to any kind of real medical X-ray. > > Not a very good comparison because one is pointed at your he

Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-07-01 2:46 PM, Ian Finder wrote: That was my thought too- color CRTs are where this really mattered- which is why I mentioned black and white. I am not overly concerned, someone in the IRC channel I'm in asked and I thought I'd ping. Even then, in a color CRT without any lead shielding,

RE: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread tony duell
> I know a few list members who have been doing this, after fixing CRT > cataracts. > > Was that glass additionally leaded to cut down on X-rays at all? Is there a > risk to that? It probably was leaded glass, but mono CRTs only run at about 15kV on the final anode. I don't think you get much of

Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread Ian Finder
That was my thought too- color CRTs are where this really mattered- which is why I mentioned black and white. I am not overly concerned, someone in the IRC channel I'm in asked and I thought I'd ping. Even then, in a color CRT without any lead shielding, I'd bet the emissions pale in comparison to

Re: Running CRTs without implosion protection glass

2016-07-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jul 1, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Ian Finder wrote: > > I know a few list members who have been doing this, after fixing CRT > cataracts. > > Was that glass additionally leaded to cut down on X-rays at all? Is there a > risk to that? > > These are mostly black and white CRTs. From what I remember