Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 27 Apr 2018 at 00:48, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > The Honda 600 was NOT a bike. Well, mostly not. After demise of the mid > 1960s Honda S600/S800 ("poor-man's-Ferrari" design exercise that got out > of hand and went into production), Honda engineers took a 360CC parallel > twin, detun

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
I had to choose between buying not skimping on groceries V a Mini-Cooper-S (needed a little work) V Honda 600 V TRS80. Did I make the right choice? On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Liam Proven wrote: I'd go for a bike over a car any day. Well, when I was young, anyway. Now, I'm getting kinda stiff and cre

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 23:30, Geoffrey Oltmans wrote: > I don't know what it's like around your home, but most places in the US aren't terribly bike friendly. Since the advent of texting and smart phones even less so. Still, I keep thinking I should trade my one way 4 mile car commute for a bike

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 19:54, Geoff Oltmans wrote: > I think you'd find a few people this side of the pond whose first computer was a Timex Sinclair 1000 (our equivalent of the ZX81). I know that was true in our household... My dad purchased one brand-new at Albertson's (a supermarket chain in th

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 16:55, Zane Healy wrote: > My first computer was supposed to be a ZX81. I worked all Summer painting the house to earn it. As it happens, my payment was a VIC-20 with a tape recorder. I guess the VIC had colour and sound, but that 22-column screen always looked too much

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Geoffrey Oltmans via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 4:15 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 23:04, Fred Cisin via cctalk > > wrote: > > I'd go for a bike over a car any day. Well, when I was young, anyway. Now, > I'm getting kinda stiff and creaky... Because of all the bike c

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 26 Apr 2018, at 22:13, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: >> >>> Those Microdrives were such a Cheese design. >>> >> >> The American Cheese Socie

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 23:04, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > Neither "first", nor "sub-$1000" > Apple][ was $1298, and discounts were very rare. > TRS-80 at $599 was less than half the price. > Pet at $795 was barely more than half the price. The TRS-80 line barely sold over here, so I tend to

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:11 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: > >> Those Microdrives were such a Cheese design. >> > > The American Cheese Society (industry association) would probably resent > that comparison I was ref

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 3:03 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Apple][ was $1298, and discounts were very rare. > TRS-80 at $599 was less than half the price. > Pet at $795 was barely more than half the price. > By connecting a CCTV monitor, I got my TRS80 new for $399.

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Eric Smith via cctalk wrote: Those Microdrives were such a Cheese design. The American Cheese Society (industry association) would probably resent that comparison.

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 22:41, TeoZ via cctalk wrote: > My first computer was a Timex 2068 just before Timex got out of computers. I > had seen advertisements for the 1000 model but it looked like junk at the > time (no real keyboard, you needed to have the 16K RAM cart to do anything). > Still th

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 2:37 PM, Liam Proven via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > The QL was a weird machine. It predated the Mac by a matter of weeks and in > crude spec terms was comparable -- 128 kB RAM, 68008 vs 68000, 2 x 100 kB > Microdrives versus 1 x 400 kB floppy. The QL did sound

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: A lengthy interview with the later great Rick Dickinson, product designer of basically every Sinclair computer, who sadly died of cancer on Tuesday. https://medium.com/@ghalfacree/an-interview-with-rick-dickinson-3fea60537338 He not only did the

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread TeoZ via cctalk
1000 model which must have sold quite a few units before being discontinued compared to my 2068. -Original Message- From: Mark J. Blair via cctalk Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2018 3:33 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum des

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 21:33, Mark J. Blair via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Over here in the US, I remember seeing the Sinclair QL in a magazine (probably Byte?) and thinking it looked exotic and interesting. I thought the little tape drives looked neat, and didn’t know enough to appr

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Mark J. Blair via cctalk
Over here in the US, I remember seeing the Sinclair QL in a magazine (probably Byte?) and thinking it looked exotic and interesting. I thought the little tape drives looked neat, and didn’t know enough to appreciate how much better a floppy drive would have made the system. I have no regrets at

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 19:26, Adrian Graham via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > My first was a ZX80 which my Dad borrowed from my physics teacher at school. That spurred me on to get my own ZX81 which had just come out, then the Research Machines 380Z at later school, then the 48K ZXSpect

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 19:17, j...@cimmeri.com wrote: > Very interesting to see this perspective from the UK! Oh good. :-) > Located in the U.S. (Washington, D.C), I started with an Apple II+ in 1979 as a 12 year old. This confirms the sort of thing I read. US users had specifications of kit w

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Geoff Oltmans via cctalk
> On Apr 26, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > I know this is a rather USA-centric list, so probably most of you started > off with things like the Apple II, the first sub-$1000 home computer. But > in Britain and Europe back then, we were a lot poorer, and $1000 was an > im

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Adrian Graham via cctalk
> On 26 Apr 2018, at 13:47, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > I think if you ask virtually any British person in their late 30s, 40s or > 50s, in anything connected with IT, what their first computer was, the > answer would be a ZX 81 or a ZX Spectrum. It was the single range of > machines th

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread js--- via cctalk
On 4/26/2018 11:46 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote: Personally, the $99 Timex 1000 was the only computer I could have afforded back then. Schools had Apple II's but not so many people in their homes then, at least where I lived. That's very cool. Thanks for sharing. I knew the TS1000 (and

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 26 Apr 2018 at 17:55, Bill Degnan via cctalk wrote: > There was a very large Timex 1000 / ZX81 user base in the US. I have quite > a lot of newsletters and documents from these groups. I even did an exhibit > on the subject of SIGs for the Timex 1000 ZX81 at VCF MW a few years ago. >

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Bill Degnan via cctalk
There was a very large Timex 1000 / ZX81 user base in the US. I have quite a lot of newsletters and documents from these groups. I even did an exhibit on the subject of SIGs for the Timex 1000 ZX81 at VCF MW a few years ago. You can see stacks of newsletters in stands flanking the machines and t

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
> On Apr 26, 2018, at 5:47 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk > wrote: > > He not only did the ZX 80, ZX 81, ZX Spectrum and the QL, but also the Z88, > the Spectrum Next and others -- along with a lot of other stuff. > > I know this is a rather USA-centric list, so probably most of you started > off

Re: Rick Dickinson, ZX Spectrum designer, RIP

2018-04-26 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Just to add some info to the excellent Liam's post, it was a revolution in south america too. The first computers in Brazil were ZX80 clones (TK82C is a ZX80 clone, not a ZX81...ZX81 were cloned just in the TK85 computer) and it was a revolution! I was a very poor guy, my father was a Militar Polic