Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-26 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 05:42:00PM +0200, Philipp Hachtmann via cctech wrote: > Hi Pontus, > > One sad thing about washing minicomputer pieces is that you most probably > lose or at least damage any original paper labels. > Yes :/ Some of the fall of anyway since the adhesive has lost it's adhe

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Philipp Hachtmann via cctalk
Hi Pontus, I reply to the original post, but I have read many funny comments. None of them I considered harmful. My PDP-8/A is up for restoration. More specifically and 8A100 according to it's ID plate. It is in overall "ok" shape but oh so dusty. I'd like to give it a good cleaning so I'm

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 25/04/2017 17:46, js--- via cctalk wrote: On 4/25/2017 11:34 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: Definitely. It takes a while, but even behind window glass (which is barely transparent to short wavelength UV) EPROMs can eventually lose their content. It happened to a friend who had a mac

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Systems Glitch via cctalk
> I'd just vacuum the card slots and wiring side with a shop > vac with a crevice tool. I really would not get it wet. If > you do this, vacuum all the water off and then dry in an > oven at 100F or so for a day. You can clean the card edge > fingers with an alcohol-soaked paper towel. Yeah

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 12:46 PM, js--- via cctalk wrote: > > > > On 4/25/2017 11:34 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: >> On 25/04/2017 15:55, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: >>> On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, allison via cctalk >>> wrote: >>> Even after all that I'd still dry it with a l

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread js--- via cctalk
On 4/25/2017 11:34 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 25/04/2017 15:55, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: Even after all that I'd still dry it with a little heat (oven at 180F or a clean empty container in the sun. Irrelevant fo

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 25/04/2017 15:55, Tapley, Mark via cctalk wrote: On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: Even after all that I'd still dry it with a little heat (oven at 180F or a clean empty container in the sun. Irrelevant for backplanes, but for circuit boards, would any UV-erasable PR

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 04/24/2017 02:19 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk wrote: Hi My PDP-8/A is up for restoration. More specifically and 8A100 according to it's ID plate. It is in overall "ok" shape but oh so dusty. I'd like to give it a good cleaning so I'm tearing it down. And I'm looking for suggestion to clean

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Tapley, Mark via cctalk
On Apr 25, 2017, at 8:51 AM, allison via cctalk wrote: > Even after all that I'd still dry it with a little heat (oven at 180F or a > clean empty > container in the sun. Irrelevant for backplanes, but for circuit boards, would any UV-erasable PROMs want to be checked to ensure their caps/cover

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread allison via cctalk
On 4/25/17 8:57 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Apr 25, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: On 25/04/2017 10:08, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: "Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue will be

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread allison via cctalk
On 4/25/17 6:06 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctech wrote: On 25/04/2017 10:08, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: "Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue will be water (look up "azeotrope") - plus you need a lot of alcoho

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread allison via cctalk
On 04/25/2017 03:45 AM, ben via cctech wrote: > On 4/24/2017 1:19 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctech wrote: >> Hi >> >> My PDP-8/A is up for restoration. More specifically and 8A100 according >> to it's ID plate. It is in overall "ok" shape but oh so dusty. >> >> I'd like to give it a good cleaning so

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Apr 25, 2017, at 6:06 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk > wrote: > > On 25/04/2017 10:08, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: >> >> On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: >>> >>> "Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue >>> will be water (look up "azeotrope"

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 25/04/2017 10:08, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: "Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue will be water (look up "azeotrope") - plus you need a lot of alcohol for something the size of a PDP-8 backplane. Blow dr

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 4/25/2017 1:39 AM, Pete Turnbull via cctalk wrote: "Little residue" would be more accurate, and some of that residue will be water (look up "azeotrope") - plus you need a lot of alcohol for something the size of a PDP-8 backplane. Blow dry, even after an alcohol rinse. In the process

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Pete Turnbull via cctalk
On 25/04/2017 08:51, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 4/25/2017 12:45 AM, ben via cctech wrote: I would go for distilled water, tap water could have chlorine it it. Not enough to do any harm if you dry it sensibly; besides, it's more likely to be choramines these days, not chlorine as suc

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread Pontus Pihlgren via cctalk
On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12:51:41AM -0700, jim stephens via cctalk wrote: > > > On 4/25/2017 12:45 AM, ben via cctech wrote: > >> > >I would go for distilled water, tap water could have chlorine it it. > >Ben. I should hope not! Water comes from a well in my backyard. Perhaps I could take a shor

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 4/25/2017 12:45 AM, ben via cctech wrote: I would go for distilled water, tap water could have chlorine it it. Ben. Good point. Also with care, I've seen distilled water, then alcohol rinse (not rubbing, but pure of some sort), then air dry. This is used on optics to get rid of water s

Re: PDP-8/a cleaning

2017-04-25 Thread ben via cctalk
On 4/24/2017 1:19 PM, Pontus Pihlgren via cctech wrote: Hi My PDP-8/A is up for restoration. More specifically and 8A100 according to it's ID plate. It is in overall "ok" shape but oh so dusty. I'd like to give it a good cleaning so I'm tearing it down. And I'm looking for suggestion to cleanin