Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Jerry Kemp
I know its too much to wish for, but as I look at your Sun 2000E comment, I can't but hope and wonder if you are anywhere near the DFW metroplex area? Jerry On 03/30/16 06:11 PM, Michael Thompson wrote: I brought the Sun 2000E home, and its still here. I have to thin the herd a little so

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread drlegendre .
00 > > From: Brian Marstella > > Subject: Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a > > mainframe... > > > > I'm still kicking myself for passing up an IBM mainframe and a Sun 2000 > > that my previous employer no longer needed. I reasone

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 22:07:37 -0400 > From: Brian Marstella > Subject: Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a > mainframe... > > I'm still kicking myself for passing up an IBM mainframe and a Sun 2000 > that my previous employer no longe

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/30/2016 10:51 AM, William Donzelli wrote: Somebody mentioned a house with a collapsed floor. A friend of mine bought two 770/145s and a GE/Intersil memory box. (I bought the other memory box, in 1979 or so, a **MEG** of memory was a big deal!) I assume you mean 370/145s/ Yes. Whateve

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Pete Lancashire
First access was when I was 16 and used the remains of 3 Teletype 33's to make one working unit, the same neighbor who got me the machines help get and fix a modem, I had access to the the HP 2000C at the local college from home. (guess the year). First oldie computer was a then not oldie Burrough

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/30/2016 10:40 AM, Jon Elson wrote: On 03/29/2016 10:01 PM, Jim Brain wrote: Somebody mentioned a house with a collapsed floor. A friend of mine bought two 770/145s Ugh, 370/145 Jon

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Liam Proven
On 29 March 2016 at 21:34, geneb wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk > > It's pretty entertaining. :) I just Tweeted this. Great story, and a great presentation. This is the link to the Share Songbook, BTW: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ot79z78u3zd6vxs/SHARE%20Songbook.pdf?dl=0 -

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread William Donzelli
> Somebody mentioned a house with a collapsed floor. A friend of mine bought > two 770/145s and a GE/Intersil memory box. (I bought the other memory box, > in 1979 or so, a **MEG** of memory was a big deal!) I assume you mean 370/145s/ Whatever happened to them? In 1979, they would have been sti

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Paul Koning
> On Mar 30, 2016, at 11:40 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 03/29/2016 10:01 PM, Jim Brain wrote: > Somebody mentioned a house with a collapsed floor. A friend of mine bought > two 770/145s and a GE/Intersil memory box. (I bought the other memory box, > in 1979 or so, a **MEG** of memory was a b

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Jon Elson
On 03/29/2016 10:01 PM, Jim Brain wrote: Somebody mentioned a house with a collapsed floor. A friend of mine bought two 770/145s and a GE/Intersil memory box. (I bought the other memory box, in 1979 or so, a **MEG** of memory was a big deal!) I am amazed we did not collapse the floor in his

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread ethan
I started getting serious about collecting vintage computers when I was about 20, so not much older. That was in 1993, and I was scrounging PDP-11/23s and VT100s and VT220s, so most of what I was finding was 10-15 years old at that point. The more things change, the more they stay the same! -Seth

RE: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Jay West
John wrote - There's an IRC channel? What IRC network is it on? - Freenode, #classiccmp It tends to be more of a hangout "water cooler talk" for us than a technical forum, but I'm there most every evening from 8pmCST onward. J

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread John Willis
> > > He's been a member on this list for quite some time, and is a regular on > the evening crew of the #classiccmp irc channel as well. > There's an IRC channel? What IRC network is it on?

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Camiel Vanderhoeven
Yes, we're talking address space here. The 390 had 31-bit addresses. Op 30 mrt. 2016 10:49 a.m. schreef "Mark Linimon" : > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 08:34:00PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Linimon > wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:54:40PM +1300, Mike Ros

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Raymond Wiker
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 08:34:00PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Linimon > wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:54:40PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > > >> they were strictly 31-bit only. > > > > > > Dang,

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Alexandre Souza
Long time I don't laugh so hard! :D 2016-03-30 7:48 GMT-03:00 Raymond Wiker : > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 10:48 AM, Mark Linimon > wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 08:34:00PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Linimon > > wrote: > > > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Mike Ross
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:54:40PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: >> they were strictly 31-bit only. > > Dang, I suspected they were hobbled, but that's painful. > > mcl Not in the least; when they were designed and built Z-Architecture wasn't even

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 08:34:00PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Mark Linimon wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:54:40PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > >> they were strictly 31-bit only. > > > > Dang, I suspected they were hobbled, but that's painful. I guess I didn't h

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-30 Thread Mark Linimon
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 03:54:40PM +1300, Mike Ross wrote: > they were strictly 31-bit only. Dang, I suspected they were hobbled, but that's painful. mcl

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Seth Morabito
Zane Healy writes: > It reminded me of getting a PDP-11/44 & drives in a couple racks, from > Paxton in the late 90’s when he still had the Warehouse in Portland, > with the help of my Dad, and then installing it in my folks garage. My > Mom was quite happy when my wife and I bought a house, and

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Jim Brain
On 3/29/2016 9:54 PM, Mike Ross wrote: Jim you mean the P/390? I have a couple of those yes. First ones were Microchannel; later ones were PCI. S/390 CPU & memory on a card; all other devices emulated under OS/2 or AIX. Could only run the earlier versions of z/OS; they were strictly 31-bit only.

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Ross
On Wed, Mar 30, 2016 at 3:52 PM, Jim Brain wrote: > OK, I have to admit, that video is impressive, he held the audience > attention better than people twice his age, and the sheer audacity has to be > commended. > > Sadly, my zOS days are long over, I don't even remember how to configure LU2 > or

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Jim Brain
OK, I have to admit, that video is impressive, he held the audience attention better than people twice his age, and the sheer audacity has to be commended. Sadly, my zOS days are long over, I don't even remember how to configure LU2 or LU6.2 anymore, and I got paid to do that. That said, I

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Brian Marstella
I'm still kicking myself for passing up an IBM mainframe and a Sun 2000 that my previous employer no longer needed. I reasoned that I didn't have space or power for them; never let logic and good sense dictate your actions :) Connor picked a great learning experience... EE, CS, and other disciplin

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread COURYHOUSE
reminds me of myself dragging him big racks of military comm surplus gear when I was in HD Keep it up Connor! we are proud of ya! Ed Sharpe archivist for SMECC _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 3/29/2016 4:28:17 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, jw...@classic

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Matt Patoray
Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 29, 2016, at 7:28 PM, Jay West wrote: > > Evan wrote... >> Connor is a member of our user group here in the Mid-Atlantic. He's >> been learning at an astonishingly quick rate! > > He's been a member on this list for quite some time, and is a regular on the > eve

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Jan Adelsbach
I got my two (Full-Rack) SGI Origin 2000's when I was around 16-17 years old. By comparison it wasn't much of an adventure, it was quite boring actually. Jan On 03/29/2016 09:34 PM, geneb wrote: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk > > It's pretty entertaining. :) > > g. > >

RE: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Jay West
Evan wrote... > Connor is a member of our user group here in the Mid-Atlantic. He's > been learning at an astonishingly quick rate! > He's been a member on this list for quite some time, and is a regular on the evening crew of the #classiccmp irc channel as well. He was working on a DG Nova 3 b

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Mike Whalen
Wonderful video. On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 5:42 PM, Evan Koblentz wrote: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk >> >> It's pretty entertaining. :) >> > > Connor is a member of our user group here in the Mid-Atlantic. He's been > learning at an astonishingly quick rate! >

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Evan Koblentz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk It's pretty entertaining. :) Connor is a member of our user group here in the Mid-Atlantic. He's been learning at an astonishingly quick rate!

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Zane Healy
It reminded me of getting a PDP-11/44 & drives in a couple racks, from Paxton in the late 90’s when he still had the Warehouse in Portland, with the help of my Dad, and then installing it in my folks garage. My Mom was quite happy when my wife and I bought a house, and could move it into our ow

Re: Here's what happens when an 18 year old buys a mainframe...

2016-03-29 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
I watched it earlier today and it reminded me a bit about myself. At least that one time I, with help of friends, rescued a PDP-11/34, eclipse in two racks and VAX-11/750 with peripherals from a house with a collapsed floor. /P On Tue, Mar 29, 2016 at 12:34:09PM -0700, geneb wrote: > > https:/