Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-20 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Just FYI that dual 7970 has been reduced to $679 OBO... -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 10/18/2017 06:19 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > > > Yes, I had a 3500 Lb lathe shipped from NJ to MO

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/18/2017 06:19 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Yes, I had a 3500 Lb lathe shipped from NJ to MO for $600 (although that > was some years ago.) > I had a 1700 Lb pick and place machine shipped from Boston to MO for > somewhat less than that. > FedEx and UPS have arrangements for boxes up to 170 LBS, I

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Jack Harper via cctalk
Jon said, .or have your own fork lift. ...just gotta love these primordial computers :) Forklift! :) Regards to the List, Jack -- Jack Harper, President Secure Outcomes Inc 2942 Evergreen Parkway, Sui

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 10/18/2017 11:47 AM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/18/2017 09:12 AM, Jack Harper via cctalk wrote: Possibly... :) Freight charge to get one from the Washington, DC area to Colorado is about $700 USD - and that is by Donkey :) Anders, I have been monitoring the one in the DC area - th

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Steve Malikoff via cctalk
Jack said > Good points all and I appreciate the input. > > The $700 freight is what the eBay seller near DC quoted by e-mail. Having it palletised definately sounds the safest option, but for "cheap and cheerful" I have found removalists wanting a backload to be pretty good. However that's here

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Jack Harper via cctalk
Good points all and I appreciate the input. The $700 freight is what the eBay seller near DC quoted by e-mail. Regards, Jack At 10:47 AM 10/18/2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/18/2017 09:12 AM, Jack Harper via cctalk wrote: > > > Possibly... :) > > Freight charge to get one from t

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/18/2017 09:12 AM, Jack Harper via cctalk wrote: > > > Possibly... :) > > Freight charge to get one from the Washington, DC area to Colorado > is about $700 USD - and that is by Donkey :) > > Anders, I have been monitoring the one in the DC area - the freight > cost alone is "large." You'

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Heh, I'd love to know how people transport huge card sorters and such (or if those are only acquired by museums with funding). =] -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 12:12 PM, Jack Harper via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > > Possibly... :) >

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Jack Harper via cctalk
Possibly... :) Freight charge to get one from the Washington, DC area to Colorado is about $700 USD - and that is by Donkey :) Anders, I have been monitoring the one in the DC area - the freight cost alone is "large." Regards to the ZList, Jack At 05:36 PM 10/17/2017, David Collins wr

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-18 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
This one was reduced: https://www.ebay.com/i/192204691239 On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 7:36 PM David Collins via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Pretty expensive to ship one from Australia I guess... > > David Collins > > > > On 18 Oct 2017, at 6:34 am, Jack Harper via cctalk < > cctalk@clas

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-17 Thread David Collins via cctalk
Pretty expensive to ship one from Australia I guess... David Collins > On 18 Oct 2017, at 6:34 am, Jack Harper via cctalk > wrote: > > > Greetings to the List - > > Does anyone know of a HP 7970 (any model) tape drive that might be > available > > Any leads appreciated. > > Regards f

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-17 Thread Jack Harper via cctalk
Greetings to the List - Does anyone know of a HP 7970 (any model) tape drive that might be available Any leads appreciated. Regards from the Rocky Mountains - Jack -- Jack Harper, President Secure

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-13 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 10/13/2017 09:46 PM, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/13/2017 06:27 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: For 800 BPI I have most of this in my head, if you have any specific questions. (I wrote up a mostly software read/write interface for 800 BPI NRZi mag tape many years ago on a CM/M system

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/13/2017 06:27 PM, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > For 800 BPI I have most of this in my head, if you have any specific > questions.  (I wrote up a mostly software read/write interface for 800 > BPI NRZi mag tape many years ago on a CM/M system.) > > 800 BPI is a VERY simple format. ...and no

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-13 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 10/13/2017 03:00 PM, Jack Harper via cctalk wrote: Greetings to the List - Does anyone have a copy of the text of the actual ISO 1863 standard that defines, I think, the formatting of the ancient 1/2" magnetic tapes??? I am interested to understand better the format of the calculated LR

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-13 Thread Jack Harper via cctalk
Well, amazing Chuck - I looked and looked and looked and I appreciate it. Thank You. Anders and Paul, I appreciate the input - and the other HP documents. More the better! :) Regards, Jack At 02:58 PM 10/13/2017, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: On 10/13/2017 01:34 PM, Paul Koning v

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-13 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/13/2017 01:34 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > ISO standards are sold for actual money, so a real copy may be hard > to find. You may be better off looking for an old computer company > document. The HP document Anders mentioned might work; IBM also has > several documents that are help

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-13 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Oct 13, 2017, at 4:00 PM, Jack Harper via cctalk > wrote: > > > Greetings to the List - > > Does anyone have a copy of the text of the actual ISO 1863 standard that > defines, I think, the formatting of the ancient 1/2" magnetic tapes??? > > I am interested to understand better the for

Re: HP 7970 1/2" 9-Track Reel-to-Reel Tape Drive...

2017-10-13 Thread Anders Nelson via cctalk
Chuck sent me this: http://bitsavers.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/pdf/hp/tape/MVD-014_introToMagTap_Apr71.pdf =] -- Anders Nelson +1 (517) 775-6129 www.erogear.com On Fri, Oct 13, 2017 at 4:00 PM, Jack Harper via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > Greetings to the List - > > Does anyo