On 14.06.2017 17:27, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote:
Silkscreen is actually pretty low-tech. Anybody can do it in their
basement.
This is pure theory :-)
Doing "some silkscreen" is pretty easy, yes. You don't need too much for it.
(I made a large volume of low-density circuit boards a long
time
> On Jun 14, 2017, at 11:27 AM, Jon Elson via cctalk
> wrote:
>
> ...
> Silkscreened inks are REALLY durable! Think of some drinking glasses with
> logos on them. (Now, I know those are fired onto the glass, so even more
> durable.) I have doubts some kind of ink that could be printed by a
On 06/14/2017 01:42 AM, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote:
Hi
We are ok for now but for future and as yet not
designed panels I can still draw them. (I'm old but not
that old)
However with modern technology there has to be a
multi-pass printer that can print on perspex (plexiglass)
and cl
On 14.06.2017 11:04, Peter Corlett via cctalk wr
This is perhaps an obvious question, but have you asked a professional printer
for advice? They are likely to offer to silk-screen onto Perspex for you at a
price and quality you're unlikely to manage yourself.
AFAIK he has had the boards perfe
Hi,
On 14.06.2017 10:41, Paul Birkel via cctalk wrote:
How about adopting the "fallback" photorealistic approach that Oscar V. is
using for the PiDP-8 panels?
Very bad idea. They just don't look good enough. And they can't meet the
real colors.
Nothing you can print with a "normal" colour pr
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 07:42:44AM +0100, Rod Smallwood via cctalk wrote:
[...]
> However with modern technology there has to be a multi-pass printer that can
> print on perspex (plexiglass) and closely simulate silk screening
This is perhaps an obvious question, but have you asked a professional
How about adopting the "fallback" photorealistic approach that Oscar V. is
using for the PiDP-8 panels?
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From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Rod Smallwood
via cctalk
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 2:43 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and
>
> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2016 08:07:00 +
> From: Rod Smallwood
> Subject: Front Panels - PDP-8/L
>
> Hi Guys
>
>In addition to good stocks of PDP-8 panels as below I
> have artwork ready to produce PDP-8/L
>
> panels. In order to gauge the size of the first batch please indicate
>
;>On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Forwarded Message
> >>>>Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
> >>>>Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
> >>>>From:
On Fri, Jul 8, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
>
> Is there a way to tell your replicas from the originals? Given the prices
> of some original panels it would be nice to be able to identify a
> "counterfeit" one.
Hopefully he has put a "Origin:" or "Creator:" line somewhere on the
backsi
On 08/07/2016 07:14, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Forwarded Message
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
On Thu, Jul 07, 2016 at 07:47:32PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote:
>
>
> On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
> >On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-------- Forwarded Message
> >>Subject: Re:
2016-07-07 7:30 GMT+02:00 Rod Smallwood :
> Hi Guys
>
> +++ Panels stocked and ready to ship
> +++
>
> I am pleased to be able to announce the following PDP-8 front panels are
> now ex-stock.
>
> Stock levels are 10 or less of:
>
> PDP-
On 07/07/2016 19:11, John H. Reinhardt wrote:
On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Forwarded Message
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
From: Rod Smallwood
To: Paul Birkel
On 07/07/2016 07:18
On 7/7/2016 3:02 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Forwarded Message
Subject: Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
From: Rod Smallwood
To: Paul Birkel
On 07/07/2016 07:18, Paul Birkel wrote:
"MakeAnEight&qu
On 07/07/2016 18:40, Ian Finder wrote:
Rod sent me an extra 8/e panel due to a shipping mistake, the one with the
less than 180 degree lines on the rotator switch.
It is located in Seattle, WA.
If you pay Rod for the panel, and me to ship it to you, you'll get it a lot
quicker.
On Wed, Jul 6,
Rod sent me an extra 8/e panel due to a shipping mistake, the one with the
less than 180 degree lines on the rotator switch.
It is located in Seattle, WA.
If you pay Rod for the panel, and me to ship it to you, you'll get it a lot
quicker.
On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:30 PM, Rod Smallwood <
rodsmall
Forwarded Message
Subject:Re: Front Panels - New development - Bezels
Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2016 08:01:35 +0100
From: Rod Smallwood
To: Paul Birkel
On 07/07/2016 07:18, Paul Birkel wrote:
"MakeAnEight", oh my :->. Next it will be "Sweet
On 07/07/2016 06:59, Mike Ross wrote:
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
Hi Guys,
I have a nice big batch of PDP-8/i panels in production. I
really need a real original panel to check against.
Can anybody lend me one?
On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have a nice big batch of PDP-8/i panels in production. I
> really need a real original panel to check against.
>
> Can anybody lend me one?
>
> Rod (Panelman)
On 2016-Mar-09, at 3:35 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
> On 09/03/2016 18:36, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
>>
>> On 3/9/2016 1:03 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
>>> In a message dated 3/2/2016 3:32:48 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
>>> rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com writes:
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> The only pro
On 09/03/2016 18:36, j...@cimmeri.com wrote:
On 3/9/2016 1:03 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
In a message dated 3/2/2016 3:32:48 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com writes:
...
The only process deviations I have allowed myself are as follows:
Rod, very interesti
Thanks,,
Our cam was fitted with a high grade Ziess lens that cost a fortune
even then,
Rod
On 09/03/2016 18:03, couryho...@aol.com wrote:
""The cameras (they were huge) and the darkend rooms they worked
in no longer exist.""
These cameras you speak of were wonderful I rode a
On 3/9/2016 1:03 PM, couryho...@aol.com
wrote:
In a message dated 3/2/2016 3:32:48 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com writes:
...
The only process deviations I have allowed myself are as follows:
Rod, very interesting! Do you have a
description of the full pr
""The cameras (they were huge) and the darkend rooms they worked
in no longer exist.""
These cameras you speak of were wonderful I rode a Robetson for
part of a summer making halftones and line shots for a print shop in AZ
here. In my off time I was allowed to shoot all t
Hi Jim
Although I watch Youtube a lot I have never tried to set
anything up.
I do have a webserver I'm working on. I'll get a static IP or one of
those follow me IP's
Rod
On 08/01/16 11:02, Jim Stephens wrote:
On 1/8/2016 2:09 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Hi Guys
I have a short v
On 1/8/2016 2:09 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Hi Guys
I have a short video of part run boards awaiting
their turn for the next layer. (probably a bit boring).
One of the girls is in the picture (not boring)
If you want I can attach it to an email. Its a .mov file.
Email me off list for a copy.
R
Hi Kip
Panels for 8/e 8/f and 8/m will normally be a stock item.
They have only been used so far on the genuine DEC systems
they were intended for. You might want to check if PiDP8 will work.
Rod
On 09/11/15 10:34, Kip Koon wrote:
Hi Rod,
I'd love have a PiDP8 running with one of th
Hi Rod,
I'd love have a PiDP8 running with one of these panels, but at this point I'm
going to have to wait. :( Will these be available later on?
Kip Koon
computer...@sc.rr.com
http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@
Hello Charles
Is it plexiglas or is it metal?
It could be a metal backing plate with screened plexiglas on top.
Attaching a lamp to a plexiglas panel by putting it through from the
front and putting a nut on the back
is a no no. It will split along the line of holes (thats how they cleave
marb
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:28 PM, rod wrote:
> Well I've had a good look at the section marked 'Display'
>
> It looks like the same row of 37 lamps is repeated on a number of sub
> panels with up to four rows on a panel.
> The lamps look to be pushed through from behind and held every so often
> w
Well I've had a good look at the section marked 'Display'
It looks like the same row of 37 lamps is repeated on a number of sub
panels with up to four rows on a panel.
The lamps look to be pushed through from behind and held every so often
with a chrome screw from the front.
The photo of the
On Sun, Nov 1, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Michael Thompson <
michael.99.thomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:11:29 -0700
> > From: Charles Anthony
> > Subject: Front panels
> >
> > The front panel I want to build is for my DPS8-M (aka Honeywell 6180)
> > emulator.
> >
> >
> >
> htt
Brent Hilpert wrote:
One problem with a front panel on an S100 machine - or any
microprocessor-based machine - is getting access to the program
counter so you can tell it to start running at some arbitrary
address. The Altair/IMSAI panels resolved this with a hack, jamming a
jump instruction int
>
> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2015 13:11:29 -0700
> From: Charles Anthony
> Subject: Front panels
>
> The front panel I want to build is for my DPS8-M (aka Honeywell 6180)
> emulator.
>
>
> http://8bitaficionado.com/2010/09/22/multics-honeywell-6180-mainframe-panel-on-ebay/
>
>
> TIA,
>
> -- Charles
>
Th
Hi Guys
Very interesting. So some did and some did not.
I have just had another thought. I have a whole slew of DEC systems that
have 80xx or Z80 processors.
and run CP/M . Now nobody is going to hack a desktop case about but
sneaking a flat cable out the back
or through a drive bla
Hang on that sounds familiar.
I worked at a company that sold Intel Development systems.
That sounds like one of them
Rod
On 01/11/15 14:18, tony duell wrote:
One problem with a front panel on an S100 machine - or any microprocessor-based
machine - is getting access to the program counter so y
> One problem with a front panel on an S100 machine - or any
> microprocessor-based
> machine - is getting access to the program counter so you can tell it to
> start running
> at some arbitrary address. The Altair/IMSAI panels resolved this with a hack,
> jamming
> a jump instruction into th
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 3:13 AM, Brent Hilpert wrote:
>
>
> The other way round I think, the Altair and IMSAI were the only S100 machines
> I recall OTTOMH which had blinkenlight panels.
> The vast majority of them didn't. Northstar & Cromemco as you say, Compu-Pro,
> Vector-Graphic, Processor T
On 2015-Nov-01, at 12:27 AM, rod wrote:
> On 31/10/15 21:36, tony duell wrote:
>>> Hi Tony
>>> I seem to remember, certainly in OEM land there were dev.
>>> systems with front panels and production systems without.
>>> In other words the front panel was option and could be fitted.
>> S
>
> Yes much as I thought. What about S100 systems?
> Many did have lamps and switches but I can think of a couple that didn't .
> Northstar Horizon for one and Cromenco also.
If you have a machine that allows for other devices to become a bus master and
access memory and I/O devices (S100 does t
A PCjr with a front panel of blinking lights is just ridiculous. :)
On Oct 31, 2015 1:24 PM, "Tom Moss" wrote:
> I recall a minimalist front panel board for the PC jr of all things
>
> http://www.brutman.com/PCjr/pcjr_legacy.html
>
> I'd quite like to see a fully fledged panel for Q-BUS based PDP
Yes much as I thought. What about S100 systems?
Many did have lamps and switches but I can think of a couple that didn't .
Northstar Horizon for one and Cromenco also.
On 31/10/15 21:36, tony duell wrote:
Hi Tony
I seem to remember, certainly in OEM land there were dev.
systems wit
k-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Bob
> Rosenbloom
> Sent: 31 October 2015 22:35
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: Front panels
>
> On 10/31/2015 2:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
> > On 10/31/2015 03:11 PM, Charles Anthony wrote:
&g
On 10/31/2015 2:15 PM, Jon Elson wrote:
On 10/31/2015 03:11 PM, Charles Anthony wrote:
What I don't know how to do is drive 500 or so LEDs.
I am guessing a bunch of shift registers, but I've pretty much
reached my
design limits. I need some guidance on locating and understanding the
technolog
On 31/10/15 21:11, Charles Anthony wrote:
What I don't know how to do is drive 500 or so LEDs.
I am guessing a bunch of shift registers, but I've pretty much reached my
design limits. I need some guidance on locating and understanding the
technology to run that many LEDs.
I have made a 60x120mm
>
> Hi Tony
> I seem to remember, certainly in OEM land there were dev.
> systems with front panels and production systems without.
> In other words the front panel was option and could be fitted.
Sure. The PDP8/f and PDP8/m are the well-known example. Many of the
Philips P800s had o
Hi Tony
I seem to remember, certainly in OEM land there were dev.
systems with front panels and production systems without.
In other words the front panel was option and could be fitted.
Rod(PanelMan)Smallwood
On 31/10/15 18:40, tony duell wrote:
Hi Guys
Sitting here do
ssage -
From: "Jon Elson"
To: ;
"discuss...@classiccmp.org:On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: Front panels
On 10/31/2015 03:11 PM, Charles Anthony wrote:
What I don't know how to do is drive 500 or so
LEDs.
I am guessing a
Hi Al
From a panel makers point of view It would be straight forward
But without at least the lamp panel its just a nice wall hanging.
On 31/10/15 18:58, Al Kossow wrote:
On 10/30/15 11:32 PM, rod wrote:
Which computer would you nominate?
here is the weirdest DEC panel I have ever come a
On 10/31/2015 1:11 PM, Charles Anthony wrote:
The front panel I want to build is for my DPS8-M (aka Honeywell 6180)
emulator.
http://8bitaficionado.com/2010/09/22/multics-honeywell-6180-mainframe-panel-on-ebay/
(Now it's a pretty big panel, so I'm thinking 1/4 scale.)
I have one of those cour
Hello Charles
Well I have had a look and there lots to see.
The switches I think are Lemo.
The lights are most likely not LEDs. Probably lamps.
Scaling it down is not possible.
The lamps and switches are already tiny.
The challenging part is the drum type rotating title changers
I
On 10/31/2015 03:11 PM, Charles Anthony wrote:
What I don't know how to do is drive 500 or so LEDs.
I am guessing a bunch of shift registers, but I've pretty much reached my
design limits. I need some guidance on locating and understanding the
technology to run that many LEDs.
it really isn't t
Hmmm,
There is one example: PDP11GUI has a virtual 11/70 panel in it, which
can be used to operate all supported PDP-11's, including QBUS machines
and SimH.
As I programmed it I believed this was a "must-have", but honestly, it's
more kind of a "Pimp my Eleven" joke.
Personal credo now: bett
I recall a minimalist front panel board for the PC jr of all things
http://www.brutman.com/PCjr/pcjr_legacy.html
I'd quite like to see a fully fledged panel for Q-BUS based PDP-11s, or
even a VAX.
On 31 October 2015 at 15:06, Jörg Hoppe wrote:
> Hmmm,
>
> There is one example: PDP11GUI has a v
On 10/30/15 11:32 PM, rod wrote:
Which computer would you nominate?
here is the weirdest DEC panel I have ever come across
http://bitsavers.org/mysteries/mysteryPanel_Nov74.jpg
that I spotted in a lot of DEC panels that were on display at CHM in 2001
It is labeled "Special Order PDP/15 Ord
>
> Hi Guys
> Sitting here doing the overlays for the 8/e silk screen run.
> I had a thought. Including all makes of computer old and new.
> What about a front panel with lights and switches for systems
> that never had one and could have done with one?
> Which computer would you nominat
On 10/30/15 11:32 PM, rod wrote:
What about a front panel with lights and switches for systems
that never had one and could have done with one?
Which computer would you nominate?
Motorola 68030
-Oorspronkelijk bericht-
From: rod
Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2015 7:32 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Front Panels - Thoughts
Hi Guys
Sitting here doing the overlays for the 8/e silk screen run.
I had a thought. Including all makes of comp
That seems to be the case, logo apart , f and m seem to be the same
On 19/07/2015 15:55, Dave wrote:
(On Sunday, July 19, 2015 4:14 AM, simon wrote:)
ours is visible on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/simski/15171396948/
Nice. That's identical to the 8m panels I have, except the
(On Sunday, July 19, 2015 4:14 AM, simon wrote:)
> ours is visible on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/simski/15171396948/
Nice. That's identical to the 8m panels I have, except the the 'f' instead of
the 'm'. I like the separation of the LED rows on these panels.
Dave
On 19-07-15 00
Oh, they are merely scratches from the key. We decided to keep the
labels for history's sake
and yes the printset is in good condition, but not better than te scans
available on bitsavers.
On 19-07-15 12:38, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Hi Simon
Yes thats what I am working on right now.
I can see
Hi Simon
Yes thats what I am working on right now.
I can see your problem - cracked area around keylock.
Of course I can't reproduce the old sticky labels
That looks like an original set of /e drawings in front.
How good are they?
Regards
Rod
On 19/07/2015 10:14, simon wrote:
ours is v
ours is visible on flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/simski/15171396948/
On 19-07-15 00:00, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Hi
I am working on an 8/f version. Its not far along enough to send out
just yet .
Rod
On 18/07/2015 12:34, simon wrote:
Hi Rod, that sounds like a good idea. we have a 8/
Hi
I am working on an 8/f version. Its not far along enough to send out
just yet .
Rod
On 18/07/2015 12:34, simon wrote:
Hi Rod, that sounds like a good idea. we have a 8/f here and i could
try to match your version with it.
simon
On 18-07-15 00:14, Rod Smallwood wrote:
White layer 8/
Hi
You are welcome to the 8/e artwork.
Email me direct and I'll send them to you.
I already have an 8/f panel underway.
The artwork is not suitable for producing silkscreen masters from yet.
Its just to allow those with one or other of the two types of 8/e with
the different switch marking
Hi Rod, that sounds like a good idea. we have a 8/f here and i could try
to match your version with it.
simon
On 18-07-15 00:14, Rod Smallwood wrote:
White layer 8/e front panels A and B
On 17/07/2015 22:23, Adrian Stoness wrote:
Sure
On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
Hi Gu
White layer 8/e front panels A and B
On 17/07/2015 22:23, Adrian Stoness wrote:
Sure
On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
Hi Guys!
Further to my previous email.
If anybody would like to see the artwork I can send you a copy.
Its in *.svg format.
Regards
Rod
Sure
On Friday, July 17, 2015, Rod Smallwood
wrote:
> Hi Guys!
>Further to my previous email.
> If anybody would like to see the artwork I can send you a copy.
> Its in *.svg format.
>
> Regards
>
> Rod
>
>
Also "typing" on a phone sucks.
Phoning on a "phone" sucks too.
"I have always wished for my computer to be as easy to use as my
telephone; my wish has come true because I can no longer figure
out how to use my telephone." - Bjarne Stroustrup
On Thursday (06/18/2015 at 07:50AM -0400), Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
>
> Also "typing" on a phone sucks.
Phoning on a "phone" sucks too.
--
Chris Elmquist
On 6/15/2015 10:21 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote:
Good Morning All Panel Fans!!
According to the shippers the first consignments of PDP-8/e front
panels were delivered in the US yesterday,
Confirmations and comments to me please.
Rod Smallwood
Got mine in great shape. Looks like it will be
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 3:54 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
wrote:
> That article is quite neat, I must say. I always thought that the logo was
> only Helvetica, but it's interesting to see what it really is.
The only reason I know about the article was due to Google, but that
was because I used t
On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote:
>
> The article pointed to by URL above specifically state that it isn't.
>
> /P
>
Yeah, I realized that once my phone's *bleep* internet actually loaded the
page... about two minutes after I sent the mail.
That article is quite neat, I must say.
On 18/06/2015 12:50, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Jonathan Katz wrote:
There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo
in blocks. That may be a start.
http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html
If I recall
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 07:50:02AM -0400, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote:
> On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Jonathan Katz wrote:
> >
> > There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo
> > in blocks. That may be a start.
> >
> > http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_histor
On Thursday, 18 June 2015, Jonathan Katz wrote:
>
> There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo
> in blocks. That may be a start.
>
> http://nedbatchelder.com/blog/200712/ancient_history_the_digital_logo.html
>
If I recall, isn't the logo "just" Helvetica? I think, not
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
wrote:
> The Chalet font family is very similar to "the DEC font". <
>
> PS. One might find said fonts in a certain torrent...
There is a Postscript doc out there with the DEC "D I G I T A L" logo
in blocks. That may be a start.
http://n
Sorry Rod, I'll try to shoot you pricing/availability later this week.
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:49 AM, Rod Smallwood <
rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> I'm just about done sending first batch front panels
> Needless to say I have had some feed back on reqirements.
> As well
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