Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Data General Nova Star Trek On 4/7/2016 1:07 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > A friend has a large set of paper tape which seems to be from a DG > User group (not sure about that, but label on box sort of implies that). Thanks to Erik Bai

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

On 4/7/2016 1:07 PM, jwsmobile wrote: A friend has a large set of paper tape which seems to be from a DG User group (not sure about that, but label on box sort of implies that). Thanks to Erik Baigar, I have gotten his paper tape reader and have made one pass on reading the tapes. The origina

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Vulcan Avionics)

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: the complete electronics suite from a Vulcan bomber! The Rochester Avionics Archives are digitizing company videos from wha

RE: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

> European tubes are easy to evaluate in that respect because the letter codes > designate what's inside. I remember the EABC80 (not sure that's the correct EABC80 _is_ the correct number. It is a triple diode triode. The number decodes as follows : E : 6.3V heater A : diode B : double diode

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

> On Apr 27, 2016, at 12:49 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > > On 04/26/2016 09:47 PM, William Donzelli wrote: >>> What was the highest level of integration in a single envelope? >> Perhaps Selectrons. >> >> > There were also "Compactrons", 12-pin tubes kind of extending the 7- and > 9-pin submini tube

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On 04/26/2016 09:49 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > There were also "Compactrons", 12-pin tubes kind of extending the 7- > and 9-pin submini tubes. Some of them had at least 3 elements in one > envelope. I remember them and used them. In particular, I remember an AF amplifier with push-pull beam output e

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On 04/26/2016 09:47 PM, William Donzelli wrote: What was the highest level of integration in a single envelope? Perhaps Selectrons. There were also "Compactrons", 12-pin tubes kind of extending the 7- and 9-pin submini tubes. Some of them had at least 3 elements in one envelope. Jon

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On 04/26/2016 07:47 PM, William Donzelli wrote: >> What was the highest level of integration in a single envelope? > > Perhaps Selectrons. EBAM?

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

> What was the highest level of integration in a single envelope? Perhaps Selectrons. -- Will

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On 04/26/2016 12:14 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: Erik is not the only one. Check out Tatiana van Vark. Excellent! I've actually wondered who in the world might do something like this. Now I know. Like I said, what a cool hobby. Here's a picture of what is

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

There were a few others, as well as some RF devices with the tuned parts inside the bulb. There were also some oddball types made for weather balloon use that had the whole transmitter circuit as one unit. -- Will On Apr 26, 2016 6:30 PM, "Chuck Guzis" wrote: On 04/26/2016 12:40 PM, Paul Koning

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

> On the world there is probably only my 12 bit freely programmable > Elliott 900 still alive, I know of as little as 6 Rolms (privately > owned, all variants) and less than 5 of the inertial navigators. If you are talking about the various Rolm 1600 series machines - there are a whole lot more of

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On 04/26/2016 12:40 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > This sort of stuff doesn't seem to be all that common; I haven't seen > it elsewhere. Multiple tubes, like dual triodes or triode/heptodes > are pretty common, but those are just the active part. The only "passive in the tube" examples I can think of i

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Noel Chiappa wrote: I am absolutely, completely, blown away. This has got to be one of the most amazing projects I have ever come across. I'm utterly awed by the work you did to reverse engineer this thing. Everyone should check out this site - especially the detailed time

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

> On Apr 26, 2016, at 3:07 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > On 04/26/2016 10:49 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> That tube is interesting: it's the world's first integrated circuit. >> Yes, a hollow state integrated circuit. I describe it that way >> because it is a complete subsystem (in this case, a co

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On 04/26/2016 10:49 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > That tube is interesting: it's the world's first integrated circuit. > Yes, a hollow state integrated circuit. I describe it that way > because it is a complete subsystem (in this case, a complete 3 stage > audio amplifier) rather than just something l

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

> From: Erik Baigar > I wanted to have a computer using core memory and so I bought a black > box from the Tornado aircraft which contained core. This started a 10 > year yourney of analyzing it, decyphering the command set and building > tools to program it. ... I have a proje

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

Hi Jim, after another test using a different PC and paper tape, the paper tape reader is en route to you. I declared it as "paper tape reader for hobby use, value USD10" and that it will "return within 4 weeks". Hopefully this will prevent you from having to get into toruble with the custom offi

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: problems with her SO freaking out, but who knows, perhaps she married an OCD butler. It's tough to escape the laws of the universe sometimes. :-) And I'd be interested in whether she had some help in maintaining all this outstanding equipment ;-) For

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

Erik is not the only one. Check out Tatiana van Vark. Here's a picture of what is in her DINING ROOM, the complete electronics suite from a Vulcan bomber! Yes, Tatiana is the queen of collecting this kind of stuff and she has an excellent page! There's also a video of her picking up a Litt

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Swift Griggs wrote: On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Erik Baigar wrote: Apart from Rolm mil-spec computers, my hobby is airborne vintage avionics and I know that Ferranti tested their intertial navigations systems for aircraft also by torturing them in a car driving around Edinburgh i

Re: Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

> On Apr 26, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > ... > Just about everything on that page is drool-worthy or cool in some extreme > way. That crytograph does indeed rock and "The Inertial Navigator Platform" > looks like an artifact from The 5th Element. What's more incredible about > that

Avionics and amazing gear made by Tatjana (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Paul Koning wrote: > From the looks of other items on her website, that collection of airplane > gear is the *least* strange thing she has. Holy smokes I just checked and you are right! > Stuff like an encryption machine that isn't exactly an Enigma, but based > on the sam

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

> On Apr 26, 2016, at 1:14 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: >> Erik is not the only one. Check out Tatiana van Vark. > > Excellent! I've actually wondered who in the world might do something like > this. Now I know. Like I said, what a cool hobby. > >> Here

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Jon Elson wrote: > Erik is not the only one. Check out Tatiana van Vark. Excellent! I've actually wondered who in the world might do something like this. Now I know. Like I said, what a cool hobby. > Here's a picture of what is in her DINING ROOM, the complete electronics

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Erik Baigar wrote: Apart from Rolm mil-spec computers, my hobby is airborne vintage avionics and I know that Ferranti tested their intertial navigations systems for aircraft also by torturing them in a car driving around Edinburgh in Scotland... Erik is not the only one.

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Erik Baigar wrote: > Apart from Rolm mil-spec computers, my hobby is airborne vintage avionics > and I know that Ferranti tested their intertial navigations systems for > aircraft also by torturing them in a car driving around Edinburgh in > Scotland... That is an interesting

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek (Rockwell Collins vs. Vaisala SPT11A)

Hi Sherman! On Tue, 26 Apr 2016, Sherman Foy wrote: under the heading of d??j?? vu, if this unit is a Rockwell Collins mil hand paper tape puller, my old roommate ran the qualification tests on Hm, the reader is a Vaisala SPT11A and I searched the internet for readers from Rockwell Collins.

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

Hi Jim, Dear Sherman, thanks for your email (and the address via PM). I will prepare the reader for shipping tomorrow. I will ship it with the power supply and the adapter-cable attached, so you can plug it directly into the PC. The supply is wide-range, so it will support 115VAC directly, but

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

have discussed w/ Jim: I have a 240 Euro connector bench transformer meant for this.

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

under the heading of déjà vu, if this unit is a Rockwell Collins mil hand paper tape puller, my old roommate ran the qualification tests on the development of that system. That happened here in Santa Ana @ their Harbor & Warner facility. They drove around the parking lot in the bed of pickup

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

Hi Jim, regarding reading the StarTrek paper tapes I spent some time on the weekend to rework my SPT11A manual reader - I got this from an eBay auction and it was an accessory for some military receiver (probalby to read in some codes). It had a fimrwaere which refused to communicate with a simp

Re: Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

On Fri, Apr 08, 2016 at 05:33:43AM -0700, Charles Anthony wrote: > > http://www.chdickman.com/pdp8/spacewar/ built his own VC8/I for his PDP-8 > and runs the PDP-8 version of space war on it. He lists the IOT > instructions for the VC8/I; they are similar to the 338. Ohh, that looks very doable,

Re: Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:35 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 04:08:42PM -0700, Charles Anthony wrote: > > > > I have some code that does an X-11 emulation of the Atari Tempest vector > > graphics display; I'm thinking of wedging it into the simh PDP8 code to > > emulate the 33

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

Hi Jim, short version: Yes, I can confirm existence of such a software and I'd be highly interested in a copy. Of course I can offer digitizing it ;-) longer version: I am preserving various Rolm (later Loral) 16 bit machines which are hardened, military machines w

Re: Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

On Thu, Apr 07, 2016 at 04:08:42PM -0700, Charles Anthony wrote: > > I have some code that does an X-11 emulation of the Atari Tempest vector > graphics display; I'm thinking of wedging it into the simh PDP8 code to > emulate the 338 and PDP-1 displays. > That woyld be fun :) I could perhaps be

Re: Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:51 AM, Swift Griggs wrote: > On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: > > Star Trek was a quite common BASIC (game ?) program on at least the HP > 2000 > > time share systems, I've seen quite a few variations, on ran on RT-11. > > That reminds me of the "Space Travel" g

Space Travel (was Re: Data General Nova Star Trek)

On Thu, 7 Apr 2016, Pete Lancashire wrote: > Star Trek was a quite common BASIC (game ?) program on at least the HP 2000 > time share systems, I've seen quite a few variations, on ran on RT-11. That reminds me of the "Space Travel" game/sim that Ken Thompson wrote for the first copy/iteration of U

Re: Data General Nova Star Trek

Star Trek was a quite common BASIC (game ?) program on at least the HP 2000 time share systems, I've seen quite a few variations, on ran on RT-11. Be quite careful with the tape, the folds can be quite fragile depending on how and where the tape was stored. When I had my 'computer room' set up (i