worlds of classic objects [was Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany]

2021-01-06 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 02:01:17PM +0100, Patrik Schindler via cctalk wrote: > Hello Tomasz, > > allow me to send ahead, that it’s a pleasure to have a conversation > going on with you. And it is a pleasure to have a conversation with you, too. Perhaps because this place is full of goodwilling st

RE: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-06 Thread mazzinia--- via cctalk
riginal Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Patrik Schindler via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 2:22 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany Hello, Am 06.01.2021 um 13:37 schrieb mazzi...@t

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-06 Thread Patrik Schindler via cctalk
Hello, Am 06.01.2021 um 13:37 schrieb mazzi...@tin.it: >> What I understood from your last posting is that once you reformat an AS/400 >> disk for 512 Bytes per sector as used by commodity hardware, you can’t use >> it again on AS/400, even by reformatting. > > Yes, that's correct Hm, I never

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-06 Thread Patrik Schindler via cctalk
Hello Tomasz, allow me to send ahead, that it’s a pleasure to have a conversation going on with you. Am 06.01.2021 um 03:35 schrieb Tomasz Rola via cctalk : >> If you’re new to the platform, I agree. :-) > To be frank, I am "new" to many things out there. I’m sorry for being ambiguous. With „

RE: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-06 Thread mazzinia--- via cctalk
iscussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany Hello, Am 06.01.2021 um 02:04 schrieb mazzi...@tin.it: > Yeh, I know for a fact you cannot setup Hdds for an as/400 unless with > the ibm factory tool. ( saw p

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-06 Thread Patrik Schindler via cctalk
Hello, Am 06.01.2021 um 02:04 schrieb mazzi...@tin.it: > Yeh, I know for a fact you cannot setup Hdds for an as/400 unless with the > ibm factory tool. ( saw people using AS for a lot of years professionally > discuss this ) > You had an as400, you had to buy the spares hdds sold by ibm and ibm

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Wed, Jan 06, 2021 at 12:57:42AM +0100, Patrik Schindler via cctalk wrote: > Hello Tomasz, Ahoy, > Am 05.01.2021 um 22:45 schrieb Tomasz Rola via cctalk : > > > I guess it is more complicated to check mainframe's correct operation. > > If you’re new to the platform, I agree. :-) To be frank,

RE: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread mazzinia--- via cctalk
ctalk On Behalf Of Patrik Schindler via cctalk Sent: Wednesday, January 6, 2021 12:11 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany Hello, Am 05.01.2021 um 23:33 schrieb mazzinia--- via cctalk : > The hard

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Patrik Schindler via cctalk
Hello Tomasz, Am 05.01.2021 um 22:45 schrieb Tomasz Rola via cctalk : > I guess it is more complicated to check mainframe's correct operation. If you’re new to the platform, I agree. :-) Hint: If you say mainframe to an AS/400 and a mainframe guy is nearby, duck and cover. ;-) AS/400s were par

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Patrik Schindler via cctalk
Hello, Am 05.01.2021 um 23:33 schrieb mazzinia--- via cctalk : > The hard disks are factory initialized with a specific number of sectors... > they are scsi, and you cannot use normal scsi disks there. Yap. See here for details (and further reading). https://try-as400.pocnet.net/wiki/Ordinary_H

RE: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread mazzinia--- via cctalk
- From: Tomasz Rola Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 10:46 PM To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Cc: mazzi...@tin.it Subject: Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 10:02:02PM +0100, mazzi...@tin.it wrote: > Well, > > The whole translatio

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 10:02:02PM +0100, mazzi...@tin.it wrote: > Well, > > The whole translation is more on the lines that it hasn't been > started since 3 years and they can't be bothered to check if it > still works with the mains not plugged since then. Thus the risk to > turn it on is on the

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Patrik Schindler via cctalk
Hello, Am 05.01.2021 um 22:02 schrieb mazzinia--- via cctalk : > The whole translation is more on the lines that it hasn't been started since > 3 years and they can't be bothered to check if it still works with the mains > not plugged since then. Thus the risk to turn it on is on the buyer. I

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
On 2021-01-05 5:02 p.m., Patrik Schindler via cctalk wrote: Hello Tomasz, Am 05.01.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Tomasz Rola via cctalk : It says "Als Ersatzteil / defekt", which to my nose smells like "parts donor". Whoever would like to pick it, should verify this. I might be wrong. It’s advertis

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Patrik Schindler via cctalk
Hello Tomasz, Am 05.01.2021 um 21:53 schrieb Tomasz Rola via cctalk : > It says "Als Ersatzteil / defekt", which to my nose smells like "parts > donor". Whoever would like to pick it, should verify this. I might be > wrong. It’s advertised as that because it’s „three years ago since the last tim

RE: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread mazzinia--- via cctalk
-Original Message- From: cctalk On Behalf Of Tomasz Rola via cctalk Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2021 9:54 PM To: Patrik Schindler via cctalk Subject: Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 06:41:30PM +0100, Patrik Schindler v

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Tomasz Rola via cctalk
On Tue, Jan 05, 2021 at 06:41:30PM +0100, Patrik Schindler via cctalk wrote: > Hello, > > to fellow readers in Germany and surrounding areas: > > HUGE 9406-F2, 300€, pickup in Heidelberg, Germany. Might be a > Multiprocessor-Machine. > > https://cgi.ebay.de/174577267021 > > I’m not related to t

Re: DEDICATED HOBBYIST ALERT: IBM AS/400 9406-F2 for cheap sale in Germany

2021-01-05 Thread Paul Berger via cctalk
That looks like it may be a 730 model complete with a twinax terminal for a console.  One thing that seem to be missing is the electronic key that fits into the odd shaped hole in the operator panel. Paul. On 2021-01-05 1:41 p.m., Patrik Schindler via cctalk wrote: Hello, to fellow readers i