You are conflating the OS kernel with the developer A
On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 10:11 AM Liam Proven via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 04:21, Tony Aiuto via cctalk
> wrote:
> >
> > I would argue that this is totally wrong. iOS,
>
> Which is a Unix. Derived from Mac
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> To: William Donzelli
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> Subject: Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boar
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 5:51 PM, William Donzelli wrote:
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>> z/OS runs on IBM Mainframes, there is also “IBM i”, which was previously
>> called OS/400.
>>
>> Last I checked, GCOS-8 is still running, but with Itanium end-of-life, I’m
>> not sure what on. It’s been a niche market for decades.
On 2021-08-01 1:14 p.m., Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
CP/M is surprisingly alive for something so old and rudimentary and
seeing some activity, e.g. CPMish, but I don't think anyone would
claim it has much of a future. CCP/M is dead a
> And that like IBM still being able to run S/360 programs Unisys 2200
> can still run Univac 1100 programs.
And that MCP and OS2200 put everyone else to shame in the security arena...
Because they thought about it back in the 1960s.
--
Will
On 8/1/21 8:51 PM, William Donzelli via cctalk wrote:
z/OS runs on IBM Mainframes, there is also “IBM i”, which was previously called
OS/400.
Last I checked, GCOS-8 is still running, but with Itanium end-of-life, I’m not
sure what on. It’s been a niche market for decades. I’d argue that it w
> z/OS runs on IBM Mainframes, there is also “IBM i”, which was previously
> called OS/400.
>
> Last I checked, GCOS-8 is still running, but with Itanium end-of-life, I’m
> not sure what on. It’s been a niche market for decades. I’d argue that it
> was a serious niche when I was using it in th
On 8/1/21 11:45 AM, brainded ben via cctalk wrote:
I suspect if they had the proper virtual memory, it would have been picked
up as a Unix cpu
Pull your head out of your ass. Unisoft had a very profitable business porting
Unix to 68000 computers (note, NOT 68010) The Apple Lisa's 68000 ran Uni
On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Would the 68K have succeeded if it were not for Apple and Commodore?
Without your engineering expertise, I would still say, "YES".
(I was reading Infoworld, etc., as compared to you designing the machines)
Before we heard anything about Apple
On 8/1/21 11:45 AM, ben via cctalk wrote:
> I suspect if they had the proper virtual memory, it would have been picked
> up as a Unix cpu, instead. It is the only common non segemented 16 bit
> cpu I can think in that time frame.
There were ways around that. You could run two, with one slightly
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk On Behalf Of ben via cctalk
> Sent: 01 August 2021 19:46
> To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
> Subject: Re: Branching the thread away from Compaq deskpro boards: "What
> We Have Lost"
>
> On 2021-08-01 12:32 p.m., Chuck Gu
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 2:45 PM, ben via cctalk wrote:
>
> On 2021-08-01 12:32 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>
>> Would the 68K have succeeded if it were not for Apple and Commodore?
>> --Chuck
> I suspect if they had the proper virtual memory, it would have been picked
> up as a Unix cpu,
On 2021-08-01 12:32 p.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
Would the 68K have succeeded if it were not for Apple and Commodore?
--Chuck
I suspect if they had the proper virtual memory, it would have been picked
up as a Unix cpu, instead. It is the only common non segemented 16 bit
cpu I can thin
On 8/1/21 10:52 AM, ben via cctalk wrote:
> On 2021-08-01 11:17 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
>
>> The lack of interest in the classic/vintage computing segments is a bit
>> surprising, since many of these MCUs far exceed the computing power of
>> many legacy platforms.
>>
>> Silicon is chea
On 2021-08-01 11:17 a.m., Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote:
The lack of interest in the classic/vintage computing segments is a bit
surprising, since many of these MCUs far exceed the computing power of
many legacy platforms.
Silicon is cheap.
Only with good marketing, and lucky designs like the
On 8/1/21 9:14 AM, Zane Healy via cctalk wrote:
> On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk
> wrote:
>> CP/M is surprisingly alive for something so old and rudimentary and
>> seeing some activity, e.g. CPMish, but I don't think anyone would
>> claim it has much of a future. CCP/M is dead
On Aug 1, 2021, at 7:10 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk
wrote:
> CP/M is surprisingly alive for something so old and rudimentary and
> seeing some activity, e.g. CPMish, but I don't think anyone would
> claim it has much of a future. CCP/M is dead although I think Toshiba
> just about supports 4680 an
On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 04:21, Tony Aiuto via cctalk
wrote:
>
> I would argue that this is totally wrong. iOS,
Which is a Unix. Derived from Mac OS X, which is an Open Group certified UNIX™.
> Android
A Linux distro.
> and other mobile
> systems,
QNX as in Blackberry 10? A Unix.
Jolla Sailfish
On Tue, Jul 27, 2021 at 9:21 PM Grant Taylor via cctalk <
cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote:
> On 7/27/21 4:27 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
> > This was a talk at a recent Chaos Computer Club congress:
> > https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-525180-what_have_we_lost#t=1707
> >
> > « We have ended up in a w
On 7/27/21 4:27 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
This was a talk at a recent Chaos Computer Club congress:
https://media.ccc.de/v/rc3-525180-what_have_we_lost#t=1707
« We have ended up in a world where UNIX and Windows have taken over,
and most people have never experienced anything else. Ove
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