Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-28 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 06:01, ben via cctalk wrote: > What keyboard are you using to get the fancy arrows? Unmodified IBM Model M from 1991 in my case. ⇒ is compose, equals, greater-than Snag is, I can't get one going the other way... I get less-than-or-equal-to etc: ≤ ≥ -- Liam Proven – Pro

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-28 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2020-05-28 12:01 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 5/27/2020 8:43 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > >>> At the moment I have no wish to fight a web site,to find what should be >>> simple information. >> >> It's a picture. They can be useful. > > That is why clicking with my mouse did nothing. >

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-28 Thread Hugh Pyle via cctalk
The fancy arrows in Fira Code are ligatures. (Yuk! I'm not yet a convert) https://www.hanselman.com/blog/MonospacedProgrammingFontsWithLigatures.aspx ASCII-63 had a backward-arrow that disappeared in later revisions of the standard, replaced with underscore (and also an upward-arrow which was a

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 28, 2020, at 12:01 AM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > ... > What keyboard are you using to get the fancy arrows? A Unicode keyboard? My Mac will happily produce those characters and thousands more. paul

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread ben via cctalk
On 5/27/2020 8:43 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: At the moment I have no wish to fight a web site,to find what should be simple information. It's a picture. They can be useful. That is why clicking with my mouse did nothing. I like if eif else fi for if statements. What keyboard are you u

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2020-05-27 9:19 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 5/27/2020 5:47 PM, Toby Thain wrote: >> On 2020-05-27 6:56 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: >>> On 5/27/2020 2:42 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: >>> It's easily worked around. This is how a lot of people code today in relatively modern language

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread ben via cctalk
On 5/27/2020 5:47 PM, Toby Thain wrote: On 2020-05-27 6:56 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: On 5/27/2020 2:42 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: It's easily worked around. This is how a lot of people code today in relatively modern languages: https://imgur.com/ESMFgNb Arg a web page! I'm sorry if

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2020-05-27 6:56 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 5/27/2020 2:42 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > >> It's easily worked around. This is how a lot of people code today in >> relatively modern languages: >> >> https://imgur.com/ESMFgNb > > Arg a web page! I'm sorry if the sight of a URL is shock

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread ben via cctalk
On 5/27/2020 2:42 PM, Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: It's easily worked around. This is how a lot of people code today in relatively modern languages: https://imgur.com/ESMFgNb Arg a web page! The first thing that comes to mind is "How many terrabytes" for "hello World". This might mean modern

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread John Forecast via cctalk
On May 27, 2020, at 4:59 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > > >> On May 27, 2020, at 4:25 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: >> >> On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote: >> >>> Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 time >>> sharing system at Stanford.

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On May 27, 2020, at 4:25 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote: > >> Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 time >> sharing system at Stanford. This memorandum includes the syntactical >> definition of the language a

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2020-05-27 4:25 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote: > >> Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 >> time sharing system at Stanford. This memorandum includes the >> syntactical definition of the language and a number of sa

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread ben via cctalk
On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote: Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 time sharing system at Stanford. This memorandum includes the syntactical definition of the language and a number of sample programs as well as a brief description of the o

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread ben via cctalk
On 5/27/2020 1:45 PM, Paul McJones via cctalk wrote: And here’s a 1964 Stanford TimeSharing Project Memo by McKeeman and Wirth on Gogol: Gogol is a simple, integer arithmetic language used under the PDP-1 time sharing system at Stanford. This memorandum includes the syntactical definition of

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread Paul McJones via cctalk
On May 27, 2020, Lars Brinkhoff wrote: > Al Kossow wrote: >>> Algol W was from Eroupe? >> Algol W was from Stanford, written by Wirth when he was there > > I wonder if there's any connection to Stanford's SAIL language? Good question. I believe the answer is “Wirth was initially involved with

Re: Algol W [was: Microsoft open sources GWBASIC]

2020-05-27 Thread Paul McJones via cctalk
> On May 26, 2020, Al Kossow wrote: > > On 5/26/20 6:39 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> >> >>> Algol W was from Eroupe? >> >> Algol W was from Stanford, written by Wirth when he was there > > Actually, by Dick Sites > > http://bitsavers.org/pdf/stanford/cs_techReports/STAN-CS-71-230_Algol