Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-17 Thread Eric Smith
I wrote: > On Twitter, @hotelzululima suggested Motorola MIKBUG, introduced in > 1974, but IMO it's a monitor, not an operating system. On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Rich Alderson wrote: > So the PDP-6 monitor, which booted from DECtape but had no other dependency > on that medium, was not an

Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-17 Thread ben
On 9/17/2015 7:06 PM, Paul Koning wrote: Clearly that would be silly. Not to mention the RT-11 operating system, which could boot and run with just DECtape. Or the famous THE operating system, which boots from paper tape (though it pages to drum at runtime). With paper tape, would it not PAS

Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-17 Thread Paul Koning
> On Sep 17, 2015, at 7:17 PM, Rich Alderson > wrote: > > From: Eric Smith > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 12:48 AM > >> On Twitter, @hotelzululima suggested Motorola MIKBUG, introduced in >> 1974, but IMO it's a monitor, not an operating system. > > So the PDP-6 monitor, which booted fro

RE: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-17 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Eric Smith Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 12:48 AM > On Twitter, @hotelzululima suggested Motorola MIKBUG, introduced in > 1974, but IMO it's a monitor, not an operating system. So the PDP-6 monitor, which booted from DECtape but had no other dependency on that medium, was not an operati

RE: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-16 Thread Dave G4UGM
; To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. > Intel ISIS > > On 9/15/15 4:57 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > the machine had to be configured (via connecting up computing units > > with cables) > > In 1947 ENIAC was modi

RE: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-15 Thread Dave G4UGM
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 September, 2015 2:58 PM > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. > Intel ISIS > > On 9/15/15 4:57 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: > > the machine had to be configured (via connecting up computing units

RE: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-15 Thread Dave G4UGM
; Subject: Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. > Intel ISIS > > > From: Dave G4UGM > > > although ENIAC first ran a program it was stored as acoustic waves > > I don't think ENIAC used acoustic delay storage? Perhaps what you&

Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-15 Thread Al Kossow
On 9/15/15 4:57 AM, Noel Chiappa wrote: the machine had to be configured (via connecting up computing units with cables) In 1947 ENIAC was modifed at BRL to be a stored program computer. http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1339839

Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-15 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Dave G4UGM > although ENIAC first ran a program it was stored as acoustic waves I don't think ENIAC used acoustic delay storage? Perhaps what you're thinking of is that in the original ENIAC usage, there was no 'program' as we now think of that term; the machine had to be configur

Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-15 Thread Eric Smith
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 2:34 AM, Dave G4UGM wrote: > Looks like FLEX for the 6809 was also 1976... A neat trick since the 6809 wasn't introduced until 1978. I assume what is really meant is FLEX for the 6800. > BUT I don't believe ISIS became an operating system until 1976 when ISIS II > added

RE: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-15 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Eric Smith > Sent: Tuesday, 15 September, 2015 8:48 AM > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel > ISIS >

Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-15 Thread Nigel Williams
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > On Twitter, @hotelzululima suggested Motorola MIKBUG, introduced in > 1974, but IMO it's a monitor, not an operating system. Given the constraints of the systems of that time (speed, memory size, peripheral support) the line between monitor and

Re: release dates of early microcomputer operating systems, incl. Intel ISIS

2015-09-15 Thread Nigel Williams
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Eric Smith wrote: > I've been searching for introduction dates of early microcomputer > operating systems Are you including or excluding systems like the APL-based Intel 8008 MCM/70? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCM/70 circa 1974 - I guess Zbigniew's book might