Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-21 Thread Todd Pisek via cctalk
I worked at Univac Defense Systems in the early 70's. The launch control computer for the Minuteman was made by Univac. It had plated wire memory. I remember when the failure analysis group had to analyze a module that failed in the field. The module was locked in a safe and someone had to boos

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-21 Thread dwight via cctalk
ystem. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of William Donzelli via cctalk Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 8:13 AM To: Al Kossow via cctalk Subject: Re: plated wire memory > The 9300 used it, Donzelli says it wasn't very reliable And I do not remember where I h

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-21 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
> The 9300 used it, Donzelli says it wasn't very reliable And I do not remember where I heard that. It may have been from a Univac old-timer. -- Will

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-21 Thread dwight via cctalk
done on a flat surface with current day processing. Dwight From: cctalk on behalf of Chuck Guzis via cctalk Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2019 2:23 PM To: dwight via cctalk Subject: Re: plated wire memory On 10/20/19 1:50 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > It is funny th

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/20/19 1:50 PM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > It is funny that the most common memory used today is a DRO type memory. The > read destroys much of the charge on a DRAM cell, requiring a write back of > the data. > Dwight That's true today, but probably not in the near future. Persistent memor

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread dwight via cctalk
: Nigel Johnson ; gene...@ezwind.net ; Discussion@ Subject: Re: plated wire memory On 10/20/2019 09:45 AM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > I remember an IBM engineer talking about this at our ham > radio club. The wire was coiled inside a drum and pulses > were sent down the wire.

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 10/20/2019 09:45 AM, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: I remember an IBM engineer talking about this at our ham radio club. The wire was coiled inside a drum and pulses were sent down the wire. The 'read head' was a magnetic pickup at the other end of the coil - and access time was however

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On October 20, 2019 at 9:35 AM dwight via cctalk > wrote: > > I was just listening to a video on the Voyager space craft. It used an > interesting type of memory, called magnetic wire memory. There is only a > little bit of information of it on the web. It is clever in that has a > non-dest

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102620884 On 10/20/19 9:04 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > and NCR rod memory > https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/60db/392e7b39d0b1697ead9deb033a4ae488dbe7.pdf > >

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
and NCR rod memory https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/60db/392e7b39d0b1697ead9deb033a4ae488dbe7.pdf

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
https://vipclubmn.org/Articles/PlatedWire.pdf https://vipclubmn.org/Articles/PlatedWireAddendum.pdf and https://vipclubmn.org/Articles/Wired_Up.pdf The 9300 used it, Donzelli says it wasn't very reliable http://s3data.computerhistory.org/brochures/sperryrand.univac9000.1967.102646204.pdf

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
On 10/20/19 7:43 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > search for NDRO and thin film memory > Univac used it in their commercial and military computers > Apparently not for long. The 1107 was a thin-film memory machine, but the 1108 et seq. was not, IIRC. At least I don't recall any mention in the d

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19740018598 from their web page, "SCI" built the Voyager memory, I've not found details in the on-line docs https://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=19810001583 On 10/20/19 7:43 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > search for NDRO and thin film memory > Univac used it

RE: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
I don't know much about plated wire store, but I do know it was used in the Manchester University MU5 computer which pioneered heuristic pipelining. There is some info here:- http://homepages.inf.ed.ac.uk/cgi/rni/comp-arch.pl?Ibuff/mu5-ibu.html,Ibuff/ mu5-ibu-f.html,Ibuff/menu-mu5.html https://bo

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 07:43:34AM -0700, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > search for NDRO and thin film memory > Univac used it in their commercial and military computers > > On 10/20/19 7:35 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > > I was just listening to a video on the Voyager space craft. It used an > >

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Kyle Owen via cctalk
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 09:45 Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > I remember an IBM engineer talking about this at our ham radio club. The > wire was coiled inside a drum and pulses were sent down the wire. The > 'read head' was a magnetic pickup at the other end of the coil - and > access time was

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 10:45:27AM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > I remember an IBM engineer talking about this at our ham radio club. The de VA3DB > wire was coiled inside a drum and pulses were sent down the wire.  The > 'read head' was  a magnetic pickup at the other end of the coi

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
I remember an IBM engineer talking about this at our ham radio club. The wire was coiled inside a drum and pulses were sent down the wire.  The 'read head' was  a magnetic pickup at the other end of the coil - and access time was however long it took the pulse to arrive at the other end.  There

Re: plated wire memory

2019-10-20 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
search for NDRO and thin film memory Univac used it in their commercial and military computers On 10/20/19 7:35 AM, dwight via cctalk wrote: > I was just listening to a video on the Voyager space craft. It used an > interesting type of memory, called magnetic wire memory. There is only a > littl