As an fyi to collecting, many old newspapers might be a source for old iron.
They invested in computer Technology and when that technology was
replaced/upgraded, they usually just moved the systems into the basement and
they sit there collecting dust. Many systems were still on the books when th
On 2019-03-14 2:21 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
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>> On Mar 14, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
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>> Personally, I think it would be really neat if some of these
>> computer museums could collect complete end-product systems
>> and make them run. Can y
> On Mar 13, 2019, at 8:40 PM, Paul Koning wrote:
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>> On Mar 13, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Rick Bensene wrote:
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>> Paul K. wrote:
>>> TMS-11 did support some specialized devices that could do more. There
>> was the classified page layout system using a Tek 4010 style display
>> (4015? A B
> On Mar 14, 2019, at 2:02 PM, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
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> Personally, I think it would be really neat if some of these
> computer museums could collect complete end-product systems
> and make them run. Can you imagine showing a bunch of students
> how a newspaper was p
On 3/14/19 1:51 PM, Rick Bensene via cctalk wrote:
> In an earlier posting, I stated that the 4014 (with its 19" DVST tube)
> was the largest DVST display that Tektronix made, to which
> Paul K. responded:
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>> An article about those terminals also turns up the 4016 (25 inch tube
> -- 4014 is 19 i
In an earlier posting, I stated that the 4014 (with its 19" DVST tube)
was the largest DVST display that Tektronix made, to which
Paul K. responded:
> An article about those terminals also turns up the 4016 (25 inch tube
-- 4014 is 19 inches). I'm not sure any more which of the two it
> was.
I
> This happened to us. when the CSE system was replaced with one from Ctext
> using pc's and OS/2 starting about 1097.
Just after the Norman Conquest: now THAT is a historic system!
Kevin
Btw... The inhouse system wasn't WYSIWYG, it used a standard font with markup
to specify attributes. The back end system translated that to the proper fonts.
The fonts were custom designed.
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> On Mar 13, 2019, at 11:49, Paul Koning wrote:
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> Early 1979. I worked on TMS-11
I echo the reliability requirement. Classified ad sales was the biggest revenue
generator back then so Newpapers would throw a lot of development money at them
to make them reliable. A classified sales rep would be on the phone to a
customer, taking the text of the ad and typing it directly in
Paul, what was the timeframe when you worked on the system in Van Nuys?
I worked for a large newspaper starting in 1978 and they made their own 330
seat Classified Sales Entry system because there wasn't anything out there that
was big enough.
It used Zentec ZMS-90 programmable terminals feedi
> On Mar 13, 2019, at 8:07 PM, Rick Bensene wrote:
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> Paul K. wrote:
>> TMS-11 did support some specialized devices that could do more. There
> was the classified page layout system using a Tek 4010 style display
> (4015? A BIG tube).
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> The big-tube Tektronix DVST (Direct View Storage
Paul K. wrote:
> TMS-11 did support some specialized devices that could do more. There
was the classified page layout system using a Tek 4010 style display
(4015? A BIG tube).
The big-tube Tektronix DVST (Direct View Storage Terminal) terminal was
the 4014. The tube used in that terminal was
Early 1979. I worked on TMS-11 from summer 1978 to summer 1980, as
"firefighter" -- traveling on-site support and software repair. I was
scheduled for CMS-11 training early 1979, but instead the Valley News developed
a serious bug so I was sent there to learn on the spot. :-)
Supposedly the
Do those happen to have the fonts that DEC used in-house?
Atex, now Newscycle, also had a Classified Advertising system out at that time.
I remember reading a article somewhere saying that Atex was going to use the
J11 for that system.
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> On Mar 13, 2019, at 06:41, Toby Thain via cctalk
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>> On 2019-03-13 9:31 AM, Paul K
> On Mar 13, 2019, at 12:56 PM, Wayne S wrote:
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> Atex, now Newscycle, also had a Classified Advertising system out at that
> time. I remember reading a article somewhere saying that Atex was going to
> use the J11 for that system.
So did DEC, the "classified management system" (CMS) was p
On 2019-03-13 9:31 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote:
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>> On Mar 12, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk
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>> Hmmm, are these the atex racks seen lurking in the background of that recent
>> storage space trawl down near Houston?
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>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-DEC-P
> On Mar 12, 2019, at 10:10 PM, Fritz Mueller via cctalk
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> Hmmm, are these the atex racks seen lurking in the background of that recent
> storage space trawl down near Houston?
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> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-DEC-PDP-11-34-Minicomputer-With-Kennedy-Tape-Drive-J11-CPU-2-Termi
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