On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Josh Dersch
wrote:
*another snip*
> Thanks. Glen sent me his dump and I compared with mine. I have the same
> three differences:
>
> D 02A0 01200880 // 0100F308
> D 02BC 0014688F // FFF4688F
> D 02C0 65B45520 // 65B45500
>
> (commented value
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mike Ross
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 2:15 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes
>
> On Wed, May 25, 2016
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Josh Dersch
wrote:
> Interesting, the UC17 has the same firmware version (G143R) on the label of
> the EPROM. I wonder if the contents are identical. Could you send me a dump
> of your ROM so I can compare?
>
>>
>> I dumped the memory for this code from the VA
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Glen Slick
> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2016 12:48 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
>
> Subject: Re: VAX-11/730 and Emulex UC17 woes
>
> On Tue, May 24
On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:27 AM, Josh Dersch
wrote:
> Hi all --
>
> I'm working on restoring a VAX-11/730 at the museum and things have been
> going pretty well thus far. I've been bootstrapping the console and
> diagnostics from simulated TU58 (images from:
> https://github.com/NF6X/VAX-11-73
On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Josh Dersch
wrote:
> Hi all --
>
> I'm working on restoring a VAX-11/730 at the museum and things have been
> going pretty well thus far. I've been bootstrapping the console and
> diagnostics from simulated TU58 (images from:
> https://github.com/NF6X/VAX-11-7
> On Feb 26, 2016, at 01:45, Mike Ross wrote:
>
> Thanks to those who helped and advised; I discovered a problematic pin
> on the TU58 10-pin DIP connector. With this fixed, TU58EM worked
> correctly and the console code loaded. The CPU passes diags as far as
> the RL02 test; not surprising as t
On 2/24/2016 1:11 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
Why are you using MRSP mode (-m switch)? Do you know that is absolutely
required?
For VAX-11/730 console yes it is absolutely required as far as I know;
everything I've read about people using emulation there says that it
is.
Mike
Yes it appears that is
On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Don North wrote:
> On 2/24/2016 3:43 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote:
> Actually I do have a Ma
On 2/24/2016 3:43 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote:
Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me
a favour and throw a prebuilt OSX
On 2/24/2016 10:59 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:52 PM, jwsmobile wrote:
For serial I use a Saleae 8 bit analyzer.
[...]
You do have to use a level shifter with the thing because it is designed for
3.3v logic and needs to be adjusted accordingly.
The Saleae Logic Pro 16 (
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 8:52 PM, jwsmobile wrote:
> For serial I use a Saleae 8 bit analyzer.
[...]
> You do have to use a level shifter with the thing because it is designed for
> 3.3v logic and needs to be adjusted accordingly.
The Saleae Logic Pro 16 (and probably the Logic Pro 8, but I haven'
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 4:26 AM, Mike Ross wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote:
>>> Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me
>>> a favour and throw a prebuilt OSX binary somewhere I can gr
On 2/23/2016 7:11 PM, Curious Marc wrote:
I was wondering if I should add a 4952 to my HP collection. It's tempting,
these are cute machines. But except if I am using synchronous RS232, I was not
sure what I would getting that a laptop with a good terminal emulator and a
serial port would gi
Marc wrote
I was not sure what I would getting that a laptop with a good terminal
emulator and a serial port would give me. Can you convince me otherwise?
What do you guys use it for?
-
Perhaps there are terminal emulators out there that can do the following,
but I'm not aware
I was wondering if I should add a 4952 to my HP collection. It's tempting,
these are cute machines. But except if I am using synchronous RS232, I was not
sure what I would getting that a laptop with a good terminal emulator and a
serial port would give me. Can you convince me otherwise? What do
I had written...
> Just my 2 millidollars worth...
To which Tony replied
--
Don't you mean 20 millidollars?
--
I'd have intended to say 2 centidollars... but if I say I meant 20
millidollars then I can claim it was merely a typo and I dropped the 0
*cough*
J
>
> I've always eyed the 4952... being as my penchant is HP and much of my test
> equipment is same-vintage HP gear (I'll give a vote for the 1631D logic
> analyzer, combo LA and digital scope - the scope is sorta poor, but handy -
> the LA is great for what I work on).
I would love to find the u
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote:
>> Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me
>> a favour and throw a prebuilt OSX binary somewhere I can grab it? I
>> have flaky internet in the workshop and this
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 18:35 , Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
>
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 16:12 , Mike Ross wrote:
>>
>> Mark am I missing something or is there no make option for Linux in your
>> tweaked tu58em?
>
> I think you simply type "make" to build it on a unix-like system (e.g.,
> Linux).
Oo
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:35 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
>> On Feb 22, 2016, at 16:12 , Mike Ross wrote:
>>
>> Mark am I missing something or is there no make option for Linux in your
>> tweaked tu58em?
>
> I think you simply type "make" to build it on a unix-like system (e.g.,
> Linux).
...whic
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 16:12 , Mike Ross wrote:
>
> Mark am I missing something or is there no make option for Linux in your
> tweaked tu58em?
I think you simply type "make" to build it on a unix-like system (e.g., Linux).
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
Mark am I missing something or is there no make option for Linux in your
tweaked tu58em?
Mike
On Feb 23, 2016 4:28 AM, "Mark J. Blair" wrote:
>
> > On Feb 22, 2016, at 02:50, tony duell wrote:
> >
> > The pinouts are the same, the printset of course gives details of the
> latter. It's
> > RS232
I've always eyed the 4952... being as my penchant is HP and much of my test
equipment is same-vintage HP gear (I'll give a vote for the 1631D logic
analyzer, combo LA and digital scope - the scope is sorta poor, but handy -
the LA is great for what I work on).
However, I spent a significant porti
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> The bigger picture:
>
> https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/701796809413304320
Nice!
We had a couple 4951s set up at all times, mostly for sync debugging
of our own products, but occasionally, we stuck them between two
machines running Kermit
The bigger picture:
https://twitter.com/nf6x/status/701796809413304320
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 07:35, Ethan Dicks wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>> When I was debugging the connection between my VAX and tu58em on my Mac, I
>> ended up buying an old serial protocol analyzer. Notably, I specifically
>> avoided one with the same typ
> On Feb 22, 2016, at 02:50, tony duell wrote:
>
> The pinouts are the same, the printset of course gives details of the latter.
> It's
> RS232 levels, TxD, RxD, Ground, and it is 38400 baud.
I didn't get around to examining the wiring in my VAX last night, but I
determined the wiring from th
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:28 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> When I was debugging the connection between my VAX and tu58em on my Mac, I
> ended up buying an old serial protocol analyzer. Notably, I specifically
> avoided one with the same type of tape drive; I got one with a nice, reliable
> 3.5" f
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 23:09, Mike Ross wrote:
> Actually I do have a Mac within easy range of the 730. Could you do me
> a favour and throw a prebuilt OSX binary somewhere I can grab it? I
> have flaky internet in the workshop and this Mac isn't set up with
> Xcode or any other dev environment...
> >
> > I have found that those little in-line RS232 testers with 7 or so bicolour
> > LEDs monitoring the important signals are very useful when working on
> > a machine with a serial terminal. If you get flickering on the TxD or RxD
> > LEDs then it is sending something.
>
> Yes and I usually us
>
> That's my understanding too - complicated by the fact that are two
> Tx/Rx pairs for the two drives IIRC...
No it's just one pair, to pne controller board (fitted on top of the drive
module). The commands specify which drive is to be used.
-tony
> > On Feb 21, 2016, at 14:41 , Mike Ross wrote:
> > Thanks for that. Are you able to provide confirmed working details &
> > pinouts for the cable? IIRC it was just three wire; Rx/Tx/Gnd? Would
> > help if I could have confirmed working setup there.
>
> I'll need to dig inside my machine to veri
(replies inline)
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 9:27 AM, tony duell wrote:
>
>> Well I haven't figured out exactly what the problem was but I'm
>> embarrassed to report it was indeed serial comms finger trouble. I
>
> I have found that those little in-line RS232 testers with 7 or so bicolour
> LEDs moni
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 5:33 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 02:57 , Mike Ross wrote:
>>
>> Looking back at a long
>> thread on vintage-computers last year it appears that tu58em had
>> timing issues and was unusable on 11/730 but is now patched and
>> working correctly... watch
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 16:14, Mike Ross wrote:
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>>
>>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 14:41 , Mike Ross wrote:
>>> Thanks for that. Are you able to provide confirmed working details &
>>> pinouts for the cable? IIRC it was just three wire; Rx/Tx/G
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 14:41 , Mike Ross wrote:
>> Thanks for that. Are you able to provide confirmed working details &
>> pinouts for the cable? IIRC it was just three wire; Rx/Tx/Gnd? Would
>> help if I could have confirmed working setup
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 14:41 , Mike Ross wrote:
> Thanks for that. Are you able to provide confirmed working details &
> pinouts for the cable? IIRC it was just three wire; Rx/Tx/Gnd? Would
> help if I could have confirmed working setup there.
I'll need to dig inside my machine to verify the wiri
On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
>> On Feb 21, 2016, at 02:57 , Mike Ross wrote:
>>
>> Looking back at a long
>> thread on vintage-computers last year it appears that tu58em had
>> timing issues and was unusable on 11/730 but is now patched and
>> working correctly... watc
> On Feb 21, 2016, at 02:57 , Mike Ross wrote:
>
> Looking back at a long
> thread on vintage-computers last year it appears that tu58em had
> timing issues and was unusable on 11/730 but is now patched and
> working correctly... watch this space!
As a recap, I made a fork of tu58em which adds
>On Sunday, February 21st, 2016 at 23:57:22 +1300, Mike Ross wrote:
Well I haven't figured out exactly what the problem was but I'm
embarrassed to report it was indeed serial comms finger trouble. I
could have sworn that VT220 was fine and the cable wired correctly...
but to cover all bases I tr
> Well I haven't figured out exactly what the problem was but I'm
> embarrassed to report it was indeed serial comms finger trouble. I
I have found that those little in-line RS232 testers with 7 or so bicolour
LEDs monitoring the important signals are very useful when working on
a machine with a
>
> I just double checked. 3 was open; 4 was closed. That's default 2400.
OK...
Just to confirm, this is the DIP switch near the middle of the board, not the
one in one corner near the BERG plugs for the serial cables. The latter
is involved with the handshake lines for the remote diagnostic
Well I haven't figured out exactly what the problem was but I'm
embarrassed to report it was indeed serial comms finger trouble. I
could have sworn that VT220 was fine and the cable wired correctly...
but to cover all bases I tried it with a USB serial port on the Mac
that sits in the lab.
It work
On 2/20/2016 7:03 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
I might just try all switches *closed* on the basis that maybe it was
wired wrong but... no doesn't make sense; the system would have been
operational when decommissioned; the switch settings as I received it
must be valid...
Make sure the switches are act
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:23 AM, tony duell wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> red lights. The baud rate switches are set for 4800 - the default.
>
> Eh? There is no way to set it for 4800 baud (the installation manual,
> printset, and my tests all agree on what baud rates are available).
>
> How do you have t
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 8:23 AM, tony duell wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> red lights. The baud rate switches are set for 4800 - the default.
>
> Eh? There is no way to set it for 4800 baud (the installation manual,
> printset, and my tests all agree on what baud rates are available).
>
> How do you have t
[...]
> red lights. The baud rate switches are set for 4800 - the default.
Eh? There is no way to set it for 4800 baud (the installation manual,
printset, and my tests all agree on what baud rates are available).
How do you have the switches set?
Note that if switch 2 (of the DIP switch at lo
> > Of course I don't know mine works, I need to get a working TU58 tape...
Perhaps I should have been a bit clearer, it does pass the console POST,
then gives read errors on both drives (as there is no tape in them), then
gives the ROM> prompt. So mine is getting further than yours, but until
I
On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 1:56 AM, tony duell wrote:
>>
>> See row of red LEDs on M8391? On power-up the leftmost LED lights and
>> goes out. Then the rightmost two LEDs light and stay on...
>
> I can't remember exactly what mine does, but I do remember 2 LEDs at one
> end being on when it settles d
>
> See row of red LEDs on M8391? On power-up the leftmost LED lights and
> goes out. Then the rightmost two LEDs light and stay on...
I can't remember exactly what mine does, but I do remember 2 LEDs at one
end being on when it settles down. So I think yours is probably OK.
Of course I don't k
> Just started working on mine - been a back-burnered project for a long
> time. Unfortunately all the cables were cut when it was dismantled; I
> was lucky to grab just the CPU.
I had to re-fit all the cables on mine (a painful job), but at least I had them
all, uncut.
> Got it powered up ok -
On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mike Ross wrote:
> Just started working on mine - been a back-burnered project for a long
> time. Unfortunately all the cables were cut when it was dismantled; I
> was lucky to grab just the CPU.
>
> Got it powered up ok - no drama there. I faked cables to the por
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 09:50 , Richard Loken
> wrote:
>
> You need to read a little tome entitled "Mastering VMS" by David W. Byron or
> maybe "The VMS User's Manual" that came with VAX/VMS Version 5.
I'll look for those. Thanks!
ANd the /NOASSIST switch worked for me. I didn't even need to pr
And I would like to find one in the UK
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mark J.
> Blair
> Sent: 15 June 2015 16:34
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: VAX 11/730
>
> If y
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the
> BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the
> way a task can be suspended in UNIX with ^Z?
There are several:
$ submit /queue=sys$batch /nopri
On Sat, 13 Jun 2015, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> How do I respond to tape mount requests on the same console where I'm
> running BACKUP? When I get the request asking whether to create a new tape
> volume, it doesn't seem to respond to terminal input.
First, initialize all the tapes you might need usi
If you can find one, I'll be happy to help out with tape images and so forth
for your bringup!
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 08:32, emanuel stiebler wrote:
>
> As usual, a long shot, but anybody in the list
> like to get rid of one? Preferably Colorado ;-)
Cable is routed now. Instead of routing it out the bottom of the cage and
letting it mingle with the ribbon cables, I routed it over the top, out through
the power supply area, and then along the folding gantry that the power inlet
and power control cables are strapped to. Time to see if it'll t
On 2015-06-14 20:52, Mark J. Blair wrote:
I have a DEC distribution panel and internal cable. The panel has a circuit
breaker, a 15 pin D connector on the outer side for the transceiver, and
another 15 pin D connector on the inner side for the internal cable between the
DELUA card and the dist
> That might be a good approach. The DELUA end of the cable has a Berg connec$
(Please try to avoid paragraph-length lines.)
I once had a machine in a case it wasn't designed for, leading me to
want to extend a DA-15 AUI connector. I experimented with plain
untwisted, unshielded, un-ground-plan
> On Jun 14, 2015, at 11:52, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>
> The back of the 730 chassis does not have an open slot for the Ethernet
> transceiver
I meant to write that it doesn't have an open slot for the Ethernet bulkhead
panel.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
I have a DEC distribution panel and internal cable. The panel has a circuit
breaker, a 15 pin D connector on the outer side for the transceiver, and
another 15 pin D connector on the inner side for the internal cable between the
DELUA card and the distribution panel.
The back of the 730 chassi
On 2015-06-14 19:25, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On Jun 14, 2015, at 10:01, tony duell wrote:
If the connector on the DELUA board is a normal Berg-type header (and I think
it is) then maybe you could
use a piece of (twist-n-flat?) ribbon cable to make an extension that could be
routed through the
> On Jun 14, 2015, at 10:01, tony duell wrote:
>
> If the connector on the DELUA board is a normal Berg-type header (and I think
> it is) then maybe you could
> use a piece of (twist-n-flat?) ribbon cable to make an extension that could
> be routed through the cable
> pan arrangement and then
>
> Ok, next puzzle is figuring out how to route the cable between the DELUA and
> the bulkhead panel. I
> removed it because it kept getting tangled when rolling the CPU chassis in
> and out. The cable clamps
> under the cabinet deal with flat cables much better than round ones, so I'll
> n
BACKUP/NOASSIST did the trick!
Ok, next puzzle is figuring out how to route the cable between the DELUA and
the bulkhead panel. I removed it because it kept getting tangled when rolling
the CPU chassis in and out. The cable clamps under the cabinet deal with flat
cables much better than round o
> On Jun 14, 2015, at 02:36, Peter Coghlan wrote:
>
>
> Another way is to log on a second time using a terminal other than the
> console,
> issue reply/enable and then reply to the messages you receive there.
I'll eventually hook up more serial lines, but at the moment the room is
cluttered
>
> Thanks! I'll look up all of those commands to understand them better.
>
> ^Y looks familiar. I think this is the second time I have learned about it. :)
>
>
> > On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:40, Jerry Weiss wrote:
> >
> > If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I
> >
I'm still fumbling around with the multi-tape backup of the R80 drive and
haven't quite gotten it working yet. But I've made some other good progress!
That RL02 pack labeled "VMS53RL02SYS" does contain a working VMS 5.3
installation. I backed it up to tape while booted from the R80, then did a
Thanks! I'll look up all of those commands to understand them better.
^Y looks familiar. I think this is the second time I have learned about it. :)
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:40, Jerry Weiss wrote:
>
> If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I
> believe you can do
If you are running backup and it is asking for additional tapes, then I believe
you can do the following
^Y
$spawn
$
$reply/enable=all
initialize additional tapes as needed (prior tape should have rewound…)
mount tape
$reply/to=MESSAGEID
$exit
$continue
Jerry Weiss WB9MRI
j...@ieee
Thanks! I will try that out.
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 18:01, Glen Slick wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>> Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the
>> BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way
>>
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the
> BACKUP program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way a
> task can be suspended in UNIX with ^Z?
>
I'm no expert, but I think you can sometimes
Thanks, I will read that. But how do I enter the reply command when the BACKUP
program is hogging the console? Is there a VMS equivalent to the way a task can
be suspended in UNIX with ^Z?
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 17:28, Glen Slick wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Mark J. Blair wrot
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 5:13 PM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> I figured out pre-initializing the tape by trial and error, but now I'm stuck
> at knowing how to respond when I get the OPCON request for another tape. The
> system drive has too much data for one tape, but at least I managed to make
> it
Incidentally, today's session would have consumed 130 pages of greenbar if I
hadn't used a terminal emulator. VMS sure has a lot to get off its chest! :)
I figured out pre-initializing the tape by trial and error, but now I'm stuck
at knowing how to respond when I get the OPCON request for another tape. The
system drive has too much data for one tape, but at least I managed to make it
through writing one tape.
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 16:46, Jerry
Very good progress.
Suggest you initialize and mount the tapes first, then do the backup.
$init mta0:/density=1600 JUN2015
$mount mta0: JUN2015
Substitute your actual tape device name for mta0: and need to use /density as
applicable.
Jerry Weiss, WB9MRI
j...@ieee.org
> On Jun 13, 201
> On Jun 13, 2015, at 14:29, Peter Coghlan wrote:
> Did I say that?
>
> I meant:
>
> $ spawn /nowait @sys$system:startup.com
>
> (sorry)
Aha! Now I understand.
Ok, I have the SYSTEM password reset, and the license pak installed. Next task
is to perform backups. First attempt to do that has
>
>
> I'm having trouble with the password reset procedure (but will resolve it by
> the end of this message). When I run AUTHORIZE, I get this:
>
[snip]
> $ set noon
> set noon
> $ spawn /nowait sys$system:startup.com
> spawn /nowait sys$system:startup.com
> %DCL-S-SPAWNED, process SYSTEM_1 spaw
I'm having trouble with the password reset procedure (but will resolve it by
the end of this message). When I run AUTHORIZE, I get this:
$ run authorize
run authorize
%DCL-W-ACTIMAGE, error activating image SECURESHRP
-CLI-E-IMGNAME, image file PIKE$DQA0:[SYS0.SYSCOMMON.][SYSLIB]SECURESHRP.EXE;2
> I don't remember exactly what I have, but the binders that came with my
> system might include an R80 manual (to
> be scanned, of course!).
Bitsavers has the service manual, pocket service guide and printset.
The service manual is, as I would expect, a module replacement level manual. It
is
I don't remember exactly what I have, but the binders that came with my system
might include an R80 manual (to be scanned, of course!).
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
> Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member, and
> massaged into a usable state
> by another list member, I just booted OpenVMS 7.3 off the R80 drive on my
> VAX-11/730 for the first time since
> buying the machine. Woohoo!
Well done. The 11/730 is, to me, an inte
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 07:57, Antonio Carlini wrote:
>
> Doesn't control-P on the console halt the machine on a VAX-11/730?
It brings up the console prompt, but the (H)alt command just prints the PC
rather than triggering a halt on the 725/730.
Next time I work on the system (Tonight? Or maybe
On 2015-06-12 17:00, Peter Coghlan wrote:
Thanks, that works! I also turned off write lock, which makes it happier.
Great :-)
Great indeed. Fun that you can even get 7.3 running on that old
hardware. I don't think that it was officially supported, but I would
have been surprised if it out
>
> Thanks, that works! I also turned off write lock, which makes it happier.
>
Great :-)
>
> Wow, that boot sure takes forever. What the heck is it *doing* for all of
> that time? :)
>
If you want speed, you need an Alpha, not a VAX :-)
There could be all sorts of stuff in the startup file
(SY
Doesn't control-P on the console halt the machine on a VAX-11/730?
On 12 June 2015 at 15:44, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> Found this:
>
> http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1078
>
> Unfortunately, console halt isn't implemented on the 725/730, so I think a
> hard power off is my only option.
>
>
> --
>
Found this:
http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/1078
Unfortunately, console halt isn't implemented on the 725/730, so I think a hard
power off is my only option.
--
Mark J. Blair, NF6X
http://www.nf6x.net/
> On Jun 12, 2015, at 04:01, Peter Coghlan wrote:
>
> If the machine just sits there indefinately after loading the MSCP disk
> server,
> you probably don't have enough cluster votes to proceed and the best thing to
> do is perform a conversational boot which usually involves setting the least
>
> Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member, and
> massaged into a usable state by another list member, I just booted
> OpenVMS 7.3 off the R80 drive on my VAX-11/730 for the first time since
> buying the machine. Woohoo!
>
Excellent!
>
> For some reason, I was una
On Jun 11, 2015, at 23:25 , Paul Anderson wrote:
> Congrats!
Thanks! I was pretty surprised when the boot messages started coming out on the
DECwriter III!
On Jun 11, 2015, at 23:28 , Ethan Dicks wrote:
> Back in the day, we ran VMS 5.0 on our 11/730, because we needed a
> machine to link our
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 2:06 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member, and
> massaged into a usable state by another list member, I just booted OpenVMS
> 7.3 off the R80 drive on my VAX-11/730 for the first time since buying the
> machin
Congrats!
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:06 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member,
> and massaged into a usable state by another list member, I just booted
> OpenVMS 7.3 off the R80 drive on my VAX-11/730 for the first time since
> buying t
Using a version 58 console tape image provided to me by one list member, and
massaged into a usable state by another list member, I just booted OpenVMS 7.3
off the R80 drive on my VAX-11/730 for the first time since buying the machine.
Woohoo!
For some reason, I was unable to do that with the v
On 2015-06-09 23:54, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On Jun 9, 2015, at 14:43 , Johnny Billquist wrote:
Yes, R5 is more or less used the same on all VAXen, since this is used by VMB,
which almost all VAXen use in one form or another.
Thank you very much for the R5 details!
I presume that the other re
>
> I do not think you can install VMS on an RL02. It's too small.
Probably not with modern-ish VMS, but at one time I think you could. I read
somewhere that a
supported configuration of the 11/730 was the processor and 2 RL02 drives, one
for the system, the
other for user files
I must get m
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 14:43 , Johnny Billquist wrote:
> Yes, R5 is more or less used the same on all VAXen, since this is used by
> VMB, which almost all VAXen use in one form or another.
Thank you very much for the R5 details!
I presume that the other registers and the VMB.EXE that reads them
On 2015-06-09 20:01, Mark J. Blair wrote:
On Jun 9, 2015, at 09:57 , Peter Coghlan wrote:
[Lots of great stuff]
Thank you very much! The clue about R5 on other VAXen may prove to be
critically helpful. I can study the various boot scripts for clues to see if
the register use looks consiste
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