Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-03 Thread geneb
On Mon, 3 Aug 2015, Sean Caron wrote: When it comes to soldering, I usually recommend Hakko or Pace irons; I have a Hakko 936 and it's a great "all-rounder". The FX-888D seems to be their recommended replacement for the 936 so I guess I will endorse that, if they are making the new models as wel

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-03 Thread Sean Caron
When it comes to soldering, I usually recommend Hakko or Pace irons; I have a Hakko 936 and it's a great "all-rounder". The FX-888D seems to be their recommended replacement for the 936 so I guess I will endorse that, if they are making the new models as well as they built the old ones (although IM

RE: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-03 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, Robert Jarratt wrote: > > > Thanks for the suggestion, but Hakko appears not to be available in the > > > UK. > > On ebay I can find US sellers and Chinese sellers. I suspect the Chinese > > ones are > > imitations, so I would prefer to avoid those. > > > > Sorry - missed th

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-02 Thread Mark J. Blair
Once I tried my first Metcal MX-500 series iron, I never went back. With proper tip selection and technique, the same pencil iron will work for anything from 0201 components to PL-259 connectors. And it heats up and stabilizes in under 30 seconds from a cold start after a tip swap. I've spent a

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/02/2015 10:51 AM, Jochen Kunz wrote: Am 01.08.15 um 23:24 schrieb Robert Jarratt: PS A related question. I struggled somewhat with the Weller Magnastat No. 8 tip, when trying to solder leads to the ground plane, I could not get the solder to stay molten very long. Wellers are notorious fo

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-02 Thread Jochen Kunz
Am 01.08.15 um 23:24 schrieb Robert Jarratt: > PS A related question. I struggled somewhat with the Weller Magnastat No. 8 > tip, when trying to solder leads to the ground plane, I could not get the > solder to stay molten very long. Wellers are notorious for this. I had to use various Weller irons

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-02 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/01/2015 09:40 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 08/01/2015 07:05 PM, Jon Elson wrote: When repairing CPU motherboards with bad caps, this is a really big problem. I dilute the lead-free solder with leaded solder, this helps lower the melting point to where two soldering irons (one on each side

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/01/2015 05:42 PM, Paul Koning wrote: It’s still around. Check for example www.stanleysupplyservices.com, look for solder, Kester, keyword “paste”. The first item that came up in my search is 63/37 real solder paste. There are a bunch of entries, packages of different sizes and different

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/01/2015 07:05 PM, Jon Elson wrote: When repairing CPU motherboards with bad caps, this is a really big problem. I dilute the lead-free solder with leaded solder, this helps lower the melting point to where two soldering irons (one on each side of the board) can be used to clear out the pl

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Jon Elson
On 08/01/2015 04:24 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote: Today I was able to repair the LCD monitor (admittedly a cheap one) on my son's computer by replacing some of the electrolytic capacitors. I repaired an LCD monitor that they were going to trash at work. You had to massively disassemble it to get

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 8:28 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > ... > I never use RoHS solder--it simply doesn't wet or flow like 67/37 Sn/Pb > solder. The exception is SMT where components are mounted using solder paste > (powered solder+flux). If I could find some of the leaded stuff, I'd > probably

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 08/01/2015 03:24 PM, Robert Jarratt wrote: PS A related question. I struggled somewhat with the Weller Magnastat No. 8 tip, when trying to solder leads to the ground plane, I could not get the solder to stay molten very long. I was using lead-free solder, its melting point is much lower than

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Tothwolf
On Sat, 1 Aug 2015, Robert Jarratt wrote: PS A related question. I struggled somewhat with the Weller Magnastat No. 8 tip, when trying to solder leads to the ground plane, I could not get the solder to stay molten very long. I was using lead-free solder, its melting point is much lower than th

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 6:49 PM, Brent Hilpert wrote: > > ... > > As an example, I was trying to solder on the ground-plane of a 1970s (i.e. > leaded everything) Heath digital tuner recently (double-sided ground plane on > the PCB). > Old Weller 48W/700F/mag-temp-switch iron was not up to it, wo

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 6:36 PM, TeoZ wrote: > > I still use a bunch of lead solder I purchased to fix the RAM on a C64 back > in the late 1980's plus you can still get it from China on ebay super cheap. Fortunately, real solder is still readily available; my current tools catalog (from Stanley

RE: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian > McLaughlin > Sent: 01 August 2015 23:39 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful! > > > > On Aug 1, 20

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Aug-01, at 2:38 PM, Paul Koning wrote: >> On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Robert Jarratt >> wrote: >> >> PS A related question. I struggled somewhat with the Weller Magnastat No. 8 >> tip, when trying to solder leads to the ground plane, I could not get the >> solder to stay molten very long

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Ian McLaughlin
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 3:24 PM, Robert Jarratt > wrote: > Thanks for the suggestion, but Hakko appears not to be available in the UK. > On ebay I can find US sellers and Chinese sellers. I suspect the Chinese ones > are imitations, so I would prefer to avoid those. Sorry - missed the UK part :)

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread TeoZ
t. I just snagged a desolding gun with vacuum pump for $100ish a few months back and it works very well. -Original Message- From: Robert Jarratt Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2015 6:26 PM To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' Subject: RE: This Hobby Is Actually Usefu

RE: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Koning > Sent: 01 August 2015 22:39 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful! > > > > On Aug 1, 2015,

RE: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Ian > McLaughlin > Sent: 01 August 2015 22:44 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful! > > > > On Aug 1, 20

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Ian McLaughlin
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 2:24 PM, Robert Jarratt > wrote: > PS A related question. I struggled somewhat with the Weller Magnastat No. 8 > tip, when trying to solder leads to the ground plane, I could not get the > solder to stay molten very long. I was using lead-free solder, its melting > point is

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Dale H. Cook
At 05:24 PM 8/1/2015, Robert Jarratt wrote: >I suppose I now have at least some justification in the eyes of She Who Must >Be Obeyed for continuing with this hobby One of the few benefits enjoyed by those of us who do not have a Hilda is that we have no interference with our hobbies. :-) Dale

Re: This Hobby Is Actually Useful!

2015-08-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 1, 2015, at 5:24 PM, Robert Jarratt > wrote: > > PS A related question. I struggled somewhat with the Weller Magnastat No. 8 > tip, when trying to solder leads to the ground plane, I could not get the > solder to stay molten very long. I was using lead-free solder, its melting > point