Re: The Prolok Saga (Was: Applesauce FDC

2022-01-04 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Fred, a completely unrelated piece of information, but interesting nonetheless: Elnec device programmers are very famous for the number of devices it programs and its robustness. Also for their clones. If you open a cloned beeprog you cannot differ it from an original beeprog. I still haven't com

Re: The Prolok Saga (Was: Applesauce FDC

2022-01-03 Thread Tony Aiuto via cctalk
Just as my first product was about to go to market, the company president decided we needed copy protection. He wanted Prolok. I objected, and proposed that if I could break it in 24 hours, we wouldn't use it. I took 25 hours, and we did use it (fair is fair). I finally found my notes and the unlo

RE: The Prolok Saga (Was: Applesauce FDC

2021-11-03 Thread Marvin Johnston via cctalk
Another thing Prolok did was produce a small 3 disk set of sample disks with the Prolok protection. Somewhere around here I still have a set of those disks. As I recall, a program was included on each disk to copy the program to be copy protected to the special disk.

RE: The Prolok Saga (Was: Applesauce FDC

2021-11-02 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
Vault Corporation produced "Prolok" with a physical defect. To make it On Tue, 2 Nov 2021, Ali wrote: Which could be defeated w/ the Copy II Plus Enhanced Option board: http://retro.icequake.net/dob/img/eob/ There were many ways around it. Because Vault didn't write a new software package f

RE: The Prolok Saga (Was: Applesauce FDC

2021-11-02 Thread Ali via cctalk
> Vault Corporation produced "Prolok" with a physical defect. To make it > MUCH MORE IMPRESSIVE to investors and clients, instead of a roomful of > people scratching disks with paperclips, they used a "laser > fingerprint" > (use a laser, instead of a paperclip). Which could be defeated w/ the Co