RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-08 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert > Jarratt > Sent: 02 November 2015 23:18 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-02 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mattis Lind > Sent: 02 November 2015 21:44 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load > > 2015-11-02 2

Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-02 Thread Mattis Lind
2015-11-02 22:05 GMT+01:00 Robert Jarratt : > > > > I have just uploaded all the corrections. So the connector names on the > risers should now correspond. I have also corrected the area on the primary > control module around C403 and R407. > > Regards > > Rob > > Checked the new one. There are st

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-02 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Robert > Jarratt > Sent: 02 November 2015 20:36 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > Subject: RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load >

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-02 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mattis Lind > Sent: 02 November 2015 13:20 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load > > 2015-11-01 1

Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-02 Thread Mattis Lind
2015-11-01 17:35 GMT+01:00 Robert Jarratt : > > > > > > Maybe you can publish your schematic somwhere. It is much easier to > > > > come > > > up > > > > with ideas to pin point problems if we all view the same schematic. > > > > I > > > think it > > > > would be possible to identify the problem w

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread tony duell
> > Then you've not come across the ones in TK50Z desktop cases (and a few > other things). They don't like operating without a minimum load, No, probably not. Actually I may have one somewhere, but have never had to repair it, so have never run it without a load. Thanks for the warning though!

Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/11/2015 18:47, tony duell wrote: I've yet to find a DEC PSU that fails destructively if not loaded, it is more likely to just trip the overvoltaeg protection crowbar, shut down, then try to restart and repeat the cycle, tweeting as it goes Then you've not come across the ones in TK50Z des

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread tony duell
[Chopper transistor] > This one is a D905. I assume that's a 2SD905 (the '2S' is often left off the package). From the data I've seen that certainly could be used as a chopper transistor. -tony

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread tony duell
> > You mentioned DEC PSUs, this one is actually made by ASTEC. I will use a Firstly, every Astec PSU I've seen has been a swticher. They probably did make linear PSUs, but not common... Secodnly, it may have been made to a DEC design (rather than just a specification). I believe you replace

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of tony duell > Sent: 01 November 2015 18:54 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load > > > > Th

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of tony duell > Sent: 01 November 2015 18:47 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load > > > > >

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread tony duell
> That said, it's possible that there may be an auxiliary linear regulator in > there. That's common > for additional outputs with modest current needs, especially in older > designs where the > switching circuitry takes a lot of individual components. A TO-3 can isn't > what I would expect

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread tony duell
> > If it has a transistor at the primary side, and a high frequency transformer, > it's a switching supply. > Those want a load, usually. Especially the older ones. If there are large-ish electrolytics (100's of uF) with a voltage rating around 200V and no reason to believe that there is a

Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 12:37 PM, Robert Jarratt > wrote: > > ... > Hmmm Until your email I was pretty confident this was a switcher. But > your description of a linear PSU seems to fit. I have posted three photos of > the main board here: http://1drv.ms/1KQkTBp can you tell from that what kin

Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread wulfman
>> Subject: Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load >> >> >>> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Robert Jarratt >> wrote: >>> Some of you may recall I have a faulty H7864 PSU, which failed a while >>> ago with a loud pop, but no obvious physi

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Paul Koning > Sent: 01 November 2015 16:52 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load > > > >

Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Paul Koning
> On Nov 1, 2015, at 7:12 AM, Robert Jarratt > wrote: > > Some of you may recall I have a faulty H7864 PSU, which failed a while ago > with a loud pop, but no obvious physical damage. I replaced the blown > transistor (on the primary side of the large transformer), but when I power > it on, th

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Robert Jarratt
> > > Maybe you can publish your schematic somwhere. It is much easier to > > > come > > up > > > with ideas to pin point problems if we all view the same schematic. > > > I > > think it > > > would be possible to identify the problem without comparing the two > > > PSUs > > at > > > least in thi

Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Mattis Lind
2015-11-01 15:04 GMT+01:00 Robert Jarratt : > > > > -Original Message- > > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mattis > Lind > > Sent: 01 November 2015 12:46 > > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > >

RE: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Robert Jarratt
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mattis Lind > Sent: 01 November 2015 12:46 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load > > söndag 1 novem

Re: Testing H7864 (MicroVAX II) PSU With No Load

2015-11-01 Thread Mattis Lind
söndag 1 november 2015 skrev Robert Jarratt : > Some of you may recall I have a faulty H7864 PSU, which failed a while ago > with a loud pop, but no obvious physical damage. I replaced the blown > transistor (on the primary side of the large transformer), but when I power > it on, the transistor