Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/18/2015 01:02 PM, tony duell wrote: I also seem to remember that this pack is used with a special alignement meter, not a 'scope. And that there are special tools for moving the heads I found a sort-of user manual for this on bitsavers, but no schematics of the meter, so no easy way to re

RE: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread tony duell
> > What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? > > Is it capacity? Yes, in particular number of cylinders. Both have 3 heads and IIRC same number of sectors. The RK07 has narrower heads than the RK06. AFAIK the RK07 will not even read an RK06 pack (I am not sure the servo will manage to l

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:39:19AM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > On 2015-06-18 08:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >I ask because we have an RK07 at the Update Computer Club. > > I didn't know. When did we get one, and from where? We had one many > years ago that I dumped. We might still have the p

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-18 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-18 08:16, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? Is it capacity? Yes. The RK07 is double the capacity. Could this pack be used to align an RK07 ? I don't think so. The RK06 and RK07 used the same design for the packs, but the RK07 packs twice the

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread John Wilson
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 08:16:07AM +0200, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: >What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? > >Is it capacity? Yep. 800-something cyls (~27 MB) instead of 400-something (~14 MB). >Could this pack be used to align an RK07 ? I wouldn't think so. They aren't media-compatible

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
What is the difference between an RK06 and 07 ? Is it capacity? Could this pack be used to align an RK07 ? I ask because we have an RK07 at the Update Computer Club. /P On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 08:53:22PM +0100, Jarratt RMA wrote: > I don't have an RK06 and I am not expecting to get one any tim

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Jon Elson
On 06/17/2015 11:56 AM, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2015-06-17 18:36, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: How was alignment packs produced? As far as I know, in special machines mounted on slabs on stone weighting tons, standing on dampeners, so that you had absolutely vibration free environment, and the

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread jwsmobile
Microdata had a setup they used for packs, then later for writing servo platters for their Reflex winchester drives. Similar to this system someone made a video of on youtube https://youtu.be/p4v7RRadC8E The electronics, optics, lasers and control heads show up on ebay from time to time. The

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Jarratt RMA
I don't have an RK06 and I am not expecting to get one any time soon, but I don't mind putting in an offer just to be sure it gets saved, but I wouldn't pay the full asking price. Does anyone intend to buy it or make an offer? If so then I won't. Regards Rob On 17 June 2015 at 16:39, Noel Chiapp

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 17, 2015, at 1:50 PM, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > On 2015-06-17 19:40, tony duell wrote: >> [Writing alignment disks] >>> As far as I know, in special machines mounted on slabs on stone >>> weighting tons, standing on dampeners, so that you had absolutely >>> vibration free environment,

RE: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread tony duell
[Writing alignment disks] > > I have an idea that some of these units used an optical interferometer to > > determine the head position > > Quite possible. But it also requires the movement control being > different from a standard drive, in order to drive at the precision, as > well as the feedb

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-17 19:40, tony duell wrote: [Writing alignment disks] As far as I know, in special machines mounted on slabs on stone weighting tons, standing on dampeners, so that you had absolutely vibration free environment, and then a very precisely controlled head control system that could write

RE: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread tony duell
[Writing alignment disks] > As far as I know, in special machines mounted on slabs on stone > weighting tons, standing on dampeners, so that you had absolutely > vibration free environment, and then a very precisely controlled head > control system that could write the tracks at the exact place the

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Pontus Pihlgren > How was alignment packs produced? On a special rig, I'm pretty sure. I don't know how the RK06 alignment pack works, but I am familiar with the RK05 (our machine had them, and we had to realign one after a head crash), and I assume it's probably similar; it had t

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-17 18:36, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: How was alignment packs produced? As far as I know, in special machines mounted on slabs on stone weighting tons, standing on dampeners, so that you had absolutely vibration free environment, and then a very precisely controlled head control system

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
How was alignment packs produced? /P On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:39:25AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: > Anyone need an RK06 alignment pack: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Equipment-RK06-Aglinment-pack-/221803433215 > > Seems like something that should definitely get saved! > > Noel

Re: RK06 alignment pack

2015-06-17 Thread John Wilson
On Wed, Jun 17, 2015 at 11:39:25AM -0400, Noel Chiappa wrote: >Anyone need an RK06 alignment pack: > > http://www.ebay.com/itm/Digital-Equipment-RK06-Aglinment-pack-/221803433215 > >Seems like something that should definitely get saved! That's AMAZING! I never had RK06es (just RK07s -- DM has th