Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-19 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 19/08/2016 22:13, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 19 August 2016 at 10:31, Rod Smallwood wrote: Now for the fun version. How do I do the same sort of thing but with DEC hardware? You mean host a website with DEC hardware? With a PDP-11: Johnny Billquist has a lovely TCP/IP package

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-19 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 19 August 2016 at 10:31, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Now for the fun version. How do I do the same sort of thing but with DEC > hardware? > You mean host a website with DEC hardware? With a PDP-11: > Johnny Billquist has a lovely TCP/IP package for RSX-11/M+ which includes an > HTTP server if I re

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-19 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 18/08/2016 14:56, Rod Smallwood wrote: On 18/08/2016 14:25, Jonathan Katz wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Whats an Etsy? on-line storefront for artisan stuff, low-volume stuff. This is my friend's store for homemade portraits and the link: https://www.ets

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-18 Thread Jonathan Katz
>> I assume you can just register and set up shop there. I don't think >> the overhead is too bad. You just upload some photos of your panels, >> price them, set the quantity (or build to order) and you're done. >> >> > Good grief a old typewriter with a display!!! People with too much time on the

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-18 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 18/08/2016 14:25, Jonathan Katz wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Whats an Etsy? on-line storefront for artisan stuff, low-volume stuff. This is my friend's store for homemade portraits and the link: https://www.etsy.com/shop/cordialkitten Here's something th

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-18 Thread Jonathan Katz
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 3:15 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Whats an Etsy? > on-line storefront for artisan stuff, low-volume stuff. This is my friend's store for homemade portraits and the link: https://www.etsy.com/shop/cordialkitten Here's something that is kind of interesting: https://www.etsy.

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-18 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 18/08/2016 12:10, Jonathan Katz wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Other information and addenda is welcome, but not necessary (re: Ian's point about necessity), and I wouldn't postpone posting in favor of fancier distribution. LCD is the most survivable (broadl

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-18 Thread Jonathan Katz
On Thu, Aug 18, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > >> Other information and addenda is welcome, but not necessary (re: Ian's >> point about necessity), and I wouldn't postpone posting in favor of >> fancier distribution. LCD is the most survivable (broadly), and easiest >> to archive. >> >

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-18 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 18/08/2016 11:21, Daniel Moniz wrote: On Sun, Aug 14, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Ian Finder wrote: My preference: KISS principle; keep it simple, stupid. Set up an HTTP server or a web host that does directory listings, and and dump all the stuff into a sensible folder structure a-la Bitsavers. W

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-18 Thread Daniel Moniz
On Sun, Aug 14, 2016, at 12:04 PM, Ian Finder wrote: > My preference: KISS principle; keep it simple, stupid. > > Set up an HTTP server or a web host that does directory listings, and and > dump all the stuff into a sensible folder structure a-la Bitsavers. > > When you get more stuff just file i

Re: Front Panel Update - PDP-8/i

2016-08-17 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Thank you for your order Please send payment to PayPal rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com as below and your shipping address to me. On 16/08/2016 22:36, Adrian Stoness wrote: I would like to order one how do I do that? On Aug 16, 2016 3:41 PM, "Rod Smallwood" wrote: Hi Same price

Re: Front Panel Update - PDP-8/i

2016-08-16 Thread Adrian Stoness
I would like to order one how do I do that? On Aug 16, 2016 3:41 PM, "Rod Smallwood" wrote: > > Hi > > Same price as before $150 + $20 shipping. > > Shipments going out to-morrow. > > Payment to my PayPal account rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com > > Rod (Panelman) Smallwood > > > >

Re: Front Panel Update - PDP-8/i

2016-08-16 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Same price as before $150 + $20 shipping. Shipments going out to-morrow. Payment to my PayPal account rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com Rod (Panelman) Smallwood On 16/08/2016 20:56, Ian S. King wrote: I tried to mail you off-list and got an error from your mail server. I w

Re: Front Panel Update - PDP-8/i

2016-08-16 Thread Ian S. King
I tried to mail you off-list and got an error from your mail server. I would like to know your pricing - I have a rebadged 8/I that could use a facelift. Thanks. On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 12:17 PM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Guys > >PDP-8/i panels a

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 15/08/2016 03:25, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 07:43:21PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: Thank you all very much. I'm collating all of this most useful data. I think I have sent you this: http://pdp8.se/slask/front_paneler Not complete but it has som odd color variations a

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 07:43:21PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Thank you all very much. I'm collating all of this most useful data. I think I have sent you this: http://pdp8.se/slask/front_paneler Not complete but it has som odd color variations and OEM version. It has the chocolaty csis1170.

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-14 Thread Al Kossow
On 8/14/16 12:04 PM, Ian Finder wrote: > No need for wikis or CMSes or any of that junk. > Such things are useful, Richard's RSS feed of bitsavers, for example but they can be added later. I am a VERY strong believer in keeping the content flat and not dynamically served, so that it can be rs

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread Rod Smallwood
Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400 From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove Subject: Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11 There's also different coloured versions for many of the panels too. E.g. there's a brown-and-white '70 panel used in OEM typesett

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread Paul Anderson
2016 09:20:13 -0400 >>> From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove >>> Subject: Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - >>> PDP-11 >>> >>> There's also different coloured versions for many of the panels too. >>> E.g. there'

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-14 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Jay West > I had already offered to host the panels... I just didn't want to > create full blow web content I'd be happy to create some Web V0.1 content for it - similar to my other simple Web pages, e.g.: http://ana-3.lcs.mit.edu/~jnc/tech/DECIndicatorPanels.html Let me k

RE: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-14 Thread Jay West
Smallwood Sent: Sunday, August 14, 2016 2:27 PM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Front Panel update - Catalog Thanks that's interesting Rod On 14/08/2016 20:04, Ian Finder wrote: > My preference: KISS principle; keep it simple, stupid. > > Set up

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-14 Thread Rod Smallwood
Thanks that's interesting Rod On 14/08/2016 20:04, Ian Finder wrote: My preference: KISS principle; keep it simple, stupid. Set up an HTTP server or a web host that does directory listings, and and dump all the stuff into a sensible folder structure a-la Bitsavers. When you get more stuff jus

Re: Front Panel update - Catalog

2016-08-14 Thread Ian Finder
My preference: KISS principle; keep it simple, stupid. Set up an HTTP server or a web host that does directory listings, and and dump all the stuff into a sensible folder structure a-la Bitsavers. When you get more stuff just file it accordingly. No need for wikis or CMSes or any of that junk.

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 14/08/2016 12:48, Michael Thompson wrote: Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400 From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove Subject: Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11 There's also different coloured versions for many of the panels too. E.g. there's a

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread Michael Thompson
> > Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:20:13 -0400 > From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > Subject: Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - > PDP-11 > > There's also different coloured versions for many of the panels too. > E.g. there's a bro

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread John H. Reinhardt
I think I've registered with you before, but I'm interested in a PDP-11/70 panel and if you do them, a bezel for it. John H. Reinhardt On 8/12/2016 4:49 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: Hi Guys Well my panels made to VCF. I have had some feedback and I expect more. Currently I have

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread Ian Finder
Amazing! Thanks, Rod. You're really on top of this. On Sunday, August 14, 2016, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > > On 14/08/2016 06:57, Ian Finder wrote: > >> Registering interest for 11/40! Also, one comment after playing with my >> panels... >> >> We should laquer the back of them to prevent the black

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-14 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 14/08/2016 06:57, Ian Finder wrote: Registering interest for 11/40! Also, one comment after playing with my panels... We should laquer the back of them to prevent the black back-coating from scratching off... On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> w

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Kirk Davis
Also registering interest in 11 panels also. 11/45 would be my first choice followed by ’70, ’40 & ‘20 > On Aug 13, 2016, at 10:57 PM, Ian Finder wrote: > > Registering interest for 11/40! Also, one comment after playing with my > panels... > > We should laquer the back of them to prevent the

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Ian Finder
Registering interest for 11/40! Also, one comment after playing with my panels... We should laquer the back of them to prevent the black back-coating from scratching off... On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 1:49 AM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Guys > > Well m

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Christian Gauger-Cosgrove > There's also different coloured versions for many of the panels too. > ... There's a blue-and-red '40 panel sold by DEC in their > "INDUSTRIAL-11" version. Also for the /70; I announced a couple of weeks back that I'd added a scan of one to my P

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 13 August 2016 at 14:32, Don North wrote: > Like this maybe: http://www.ak6dn.com/stuff/1174.jpg > Yes, exactly that one! Based on the rest of your e-mail I'm guessing it's yours, right? Any chance you could get a higher res scan of it? > This is a 'true' 11/74 panel from the never-producti

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 13/08/2016 19:32, Don North wrote: On 8/13/2016 6:20 AM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 13 August 2016 at 08:07, Noel Chiappa wrote: I can't recall any other models with front panels? (Well, the /74, but IIRC there are none of those extant outside museums - although people might wan

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Don North
On 8/13/2016 6:20 AM, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 13 August 2016 at 08:07, Noel Chiappa wrote: I can't recall any other models with front panels? (Well, the /74, but IIRC there are none of those extant outside museums - although people might want some for simulators.) The whole list o

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 13/08/2016 13:07, Noel Chiappa wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood > Please register interest in ... PDP-11 panels It will depend on price - will they be the same as the PDP-8 panels (since they are so similar)? If so, can you remind us of the pricing, please? If not, any estimate? I as

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Rod Smallwood
On 13/08/2016 14:20, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: On 13 August 2016 at 08:07, Noel Chiappa wrote: I can't recall any other models with front panels? (Well, the /74, but IIRC there are none of those extant outside museums - although people might want some for simulators.) The whole list o

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
On 13 August 2016 at 08:07, Noel Chiappa wrote: > I can't recall any other models with front panels? (Well, the /74, but IIRC > there are none of those extant outside museums - although people might want > some for simulators.) > The whole list of PDP-11 models with any sort of front panel beyond

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-13 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Rod Smallwood > Please register interest in ... PDP-11 panels It will depend on price - will they be the same as the PDP-8 panels (since they are so similar)? If so, can you remind us of the pricing, please? If not, any estimate? I assume you'll eventually be doing all of them (/3

Re: Front Panel - Update. - PDP=8/i and PDP-8/l - Bezels - PDP-11

2016-08-12 Thread Adrian Stoness
8i I want one for my panel rebuild project On Aug 12, 2016 3:49 AM, "Rod Smallwood" wrote: Hi Guys Well my panels made to VCF. I have had some feedback and I expect more. Currently I have stock of PDP-8/e (Types A and B) , PDP-8/f and PDP-8/m. PDP-8/i should be out of manufact

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-08-03 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Pontus Thanks that clears up one or two things. I worked on a straight 8 with its clear cover on top along with a couple of 8/e's at Harwell. Whilst at DEC 1975 onwards I saw loads of 8/a's and the odd 8/e lurking on the top of a filing cabinet. As far as I can remember I never saw

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-08-03 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Aug 03, 2015 at 12:23:56PM +0100, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hi Guys > The drawings for pdp8/e (A), pdp8/e (B), pdp8/f and > pdp8/m have now gone to the silkscreeners for checking and costing. > I'll let you all know when they are available. Those who chose to > prepay but to w

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-07-14 Thread Tom Moss
Hi Rod, The only kit I'm aware of is Grant Stockly's. AFAIK he's not been replying to emails for about five years. There's also Mike Douglas's Altair Clone, but that panel won't fit. Here's the scan: http://www.vintage-computer.com/images/altairfrontpanelscan.jpg Just to be clear, I'm only looki

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-07-14 Thread Rod Smallwood
Hi Tom I had thought somebody had done one (or it was part of a kit) However I cant find anything about it. So lets have a look at your scan. Regards Rod On 14/07/2015 19:44, Tom Moss wrote: Hi Rod, Any chance I could commission you to do an Altair 8800 panel? The silkscreen has

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-07-14 Thread Tom Moss
Hi Rod, Any chance I could commission you to do an Altair 8800 panel? The silkscreen has almost completely worn off on mine, but I have a high-quality scan of a good one. -Tom On 14 July 2015 at 19:20, Rod Smallwood wrote: > Hello Everybody > In the course of doing the

Re: Front Panel Update A and B panels

2015-06-24 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Bob Rosenbloom: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 2:28 PM I have no idea why DEC made their own switch out of the reeds. Seems like it would cost more than a standard switch so they probably had a reason. Possibly they thought it would not wear as much with thereeds having millions of operations r

Re: Front Panel Update A and B panels

2015-06-24 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On Wednesday, June 24, 2015 1:35 PM, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: Paul Birke: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:59 PM > Can anyone recommend suitable rotary switches for either the A (vertical) > or B (angled) configuration? Unfortunately I don't have any leads on a modern equivalent. (Just t

Re: Front Panel Update A and B panels

2015-06-24 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Paul Birke: Tuesday, June 23, 2015 10:59 PM Can anyone recommend suitable rotary switches for either the A (vertical) or B (angled) configuration? Unfortunately I don't have any leads on a modern equivalent. (Just the fairly useless DEC part numbers.) The construction is dead simple, tho

Re: Front Panel Update A and B panels

2015-06-24 Thread Rod Smallwood
Try Vince Slyngstad On 24/06/2015 06:59, Paul Birkel wrote: Can anyone recommend suitable rotary switches for either the A (vertical) or B (angled) configuration? On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: Hi Guys I am off to Friedric

Re: Front Panel Update A and B panels

2015-06-23 Thread Paul Birkel
Can anyone recommend suitable rotary switches for either the A (vertical) or B (angled) configuration? On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 7:16 PM, Rod Smallwood < rodsmallwoo...@btinternet.com> wrote: > Hi Guys > I am off to Friedrichshafen for a few days and will be back > on 1-JUL-2015. > >

OEM minis /was Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-10 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2015-Jun-09, at 4:07 PM, William Donzelli wrote: > Varian bought the design of the 620. I forget the name of the original > firm, but I have a brochure on it. > > Weird things happen. CDC rebadged small VAX machines and Nova 3s, for > example, even with their minicomputer line intact. > On Tue

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-10 Thread Simon Claessen
-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: RE: Front Panel Update Interesting. Varian is a microwave equipment company; I have one of their TWTs sitting on my H960 at home. Vacuum equipment, I could believe that. But yes, Varian made a 16 bit minicomputer; I had a handbook for it at My father was a

RE: Front Panel Update

2015-06-10 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of tony duell > Sent: 10 June 2015 05:46 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Subject: RE: Front Panel Update > > > Interesting. Varian is a microwave equipmen

RE: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread tony duell
> Interesting. Varian is a microwave equipment company; I have one of their > TWTs sitting on my H960 at home. > Vacuum equipment, I could believe that. But yes, Varian made a 16 bit > minicomputer; I had a handbook for it at My father was a physical chemist who did a lot of work with vacuu

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread COURYHOUSE
Unisys absorbed Varian mini computers ie the V 77 nice chart in this pdf of the family tree http://rmarsh.cs.und.edu/CLASS/CS451/HANDOUTS/os-unisys.pdf by the way the purchase agreement was dated 1977 between Uni and Var we have lots of manuals in the catacombs unisys/var

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Anderson
I think that was on Springfield, down a few blocks. On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > The ANTS system I saw was in CAC, the building originally built to house > Illiac IV. It sat next to an IMP (a 6 foot high battleship gray box with a > larg

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Koning
The ANTS system I saw was in CAC, the building originally built to house Illiac IV. It sat next to an IMP (a 6 foot high battleship gray box with a large hoisting eye on top). paul > On Jun 9, 2015, at 7:21 PM, Paul Anderson wrote: > > Was that in the "Astromony building" on Goodwin

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Anderson
Was that in the "Astromony building" on Goodwin located next to CSL? It was not on contract with us, at least not very often. I worked on it several times. It had 2 DB11- unibus repeaters on it, and was supposedly the longest bus ever. Paul On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Paul Koning wrote:

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread William Donzelli
Varian bought the design of the 620. I forget the name of the original firm, but I have a brochure on it. Weird things happen. CDC rebadged small VAX machines and Nova 3s, for example, even with their minicomputer line intact. -- Will On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 6:45 PM, Paul Koning wrote: > >> On J

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 5:58 PM, tony duell wrote: > > >> WTF? Varian was a competitor of DEC. They made minis themselves. Sounds >> extremely strange that one would take a DEC mini, and put a Varian badge >> on it. Did someone try to make a joke? > > I will always think of Varian as a maker of (

RE: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread tony duell
> WTF? Varian was a competitor of DEC. They made minis themselves. Sounds > extremely strange that one would take a DEC mini, and put a Varian badge > on it. Did someone try to make a joke? I will always think of Varian as a maker of (very high quality) vacuum equipment. I am sure this was not

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread COURYHOUSE
ONLY SOMETIMES... remember Varian also made scientific instruments that had computers lasted to them and probably used dec when they were not making their own mini Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/9/2015 2:46:50 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-09 23:15, tony duell wrote: DEC was very keen on its OEM business and if the order was big enough would allow some variation in colours but would not allow the dec logo to be removed or changed. I’m not sure if that’s completely true. I remember a PDP11 (11/45 probably) at the Un

RE: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread tony duell
> > DEC was very keen on its OEM business and if the order was big enough would > > allow some variation in > > colours but would not allow the dec logo to be removed or changed. > I’m not sure if that’s completely true. I remember a PDP11 (11/45 probably) > at the University of Illinois, arou

ANTS (Was Re: Front Panel Update)

2015-06-09 Thread Jason T
On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 9:30 AM, Paul Koning wrote: > I’m not sure if that’s completely true. I remember a PDP11 (11/45 probably) > at the University of Illinois, around 1975. It was used as a terminal > controller for ARPAnet. The system was called ANTS (not sure what that > stands for), and

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
They can't have enforced it all that hard. I've seen a few like these: http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/pdp-8m-cc-computer-control.JPG http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/pdp-8e-cddp.jpg http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/pdp-8l-UCC.jpg /P On

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Rod Smallwood
There was a letter that went to a large terminals digital oem in about 1975 stating as below as being the position. Guess who signed the letter? I''ll give you a hint. It wasn't Ken Olsen! On 09/06/2015 15:30, Paul Koning wrote: On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:58 AM, Rod Smallwood wrote: DEC was very

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Paul Koning > I remember a PDP11 (11/45 probably) at the University of Illinois, > ... The system was called ANTS (not sure what that stands for) "ARPA Network Terminal System". According to RFC-597, Illinois had both an 11/20 and an 11/50 (11/45 variant) running ANTS; other s

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Paul Koning
> On Jun 9, 2015, at 3:58 AM, Rod Smallwood > wrote: > > > DEC was very keen on its OEM business and if the order was big enough would > allow some variation in colours but would not allow the dec logo to be > removed or changed. I’m not sure if that’s completely true. I remember a PDP11 (

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Rod Smallwood
DEC was very keen on its OEM business and if the order was big enough would allow some variation in colours but would not allow the dec logo to be removed or changed. Whilst not for a pdp 8. I do have a front panel label with both digital and REUTERS on it The 8/f has a white border with

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-09 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 06:50:25AM +, d...@661.org wrote: > On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > > >There are so many versions. The blue and green are my > >favourites. The chocolate 11/70 requires special mention. > > > >Here are some examples I've collected. > > > >http://www.update.

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread dave
On Tue, 9 Jun 2015, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: There are so many versions. The blue and green are my favourites. The chocolate 11/70 requires special mention. Here are some examples I've collected. http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/ Are these pictures of panels you own? I procu

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
There are so many versions. The blue and green are my favourites. The chocolate 11/70 requires special mention. Here are some examples I've collected. http://www.update.uu.se/~pontus/slask/front_paneler/ /P On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:56:45PM -0500, Paul Anderson wrote: > not to mention the re

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Paul Anderson
not to mention the red/ blue used in industrial systems. On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 11:49 PM, Bob Rosenbloom wrote: > On 6/8/2015 9:41 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: > >> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:18:50PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: >> >>> Got both an 8/M with a front, and an 8/F. I don't remember

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 8, 2015, at 21:49 , Bob Rosenbloom wrote: > I have an 8/M that came in blue. > http://www.dvq.com/oldcomp/photos2/1k/dec8m1.jpg Oooh, that is really pretty! -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Bob Rosenbloom
On 6/8/2015 9:41 PM, Pontus Pihlgren wrote: On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:18:50PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: Got both an 8/M with a front, and an 8/F. I don't remember that there are any differences in color, but my memory might just have bit errors. Also not sure what the "extra markings" wou

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:18:50PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote: > > Got both an 8/M with a front, and an 8/F. I don't remember that > there are any differences in color, but my memory might just have > bit errors. > > Also not sure what the "extra markings" would be on the 8/F. As far > as I ca

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 04:38:15PM -0700, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: > From: Rod Smallwood: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:28 AM > >Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a similar front panel > >with extra markings > > I hate to mention it, but I believe that the rotary switch on the > 8/E panels w

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread COURYHOUSE
Ah! the old 8S thinking back on it this 8S was from a site we were actually paid to haul stuff away from as the land lord had the building rented to a new tenant. Date? had to be in 1981 or 82.. we also got a bunch of CDC washing machine early disk drives that were

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Rod Smallwood
Thanks yes I had been warned by one member. I discussed it yesterday with the silkscreeners. We call it the B model and it only affects the white layer. On 09/06/2015 00:38, Vincent Slyngstad wrote: From: Rod Smallwood: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:28 AM Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Vincent Slyngstad
From: Rod Smallwood: Monday, June 08, 2015 11:28 AM Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a similar front panel with extra markings I hate to mention it, but I believe that the rotary switch on the 8/E panels was replaced at some point with one that has a different number of degrees pe

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Ross
*checks* H My workbench currently held up by a VAX-11/730, an RK05, and an RA81... Mike On Tue, Jun 9, 2015 at 11:03 AM, ben wrote: > On 6/8/2015 4:30 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: >> >> yea Will... things that fit under the workbench can languish for 40 >> years... if it has to sit

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread ben
On 6/8/2015 4:30 PM, couryho...@aol.com wrote: yea Will... things that fit under the workbench can languish for 40 years... if it has to sit on top it may a a shorter lifespan Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) Ok, where are the computers HOLDING UP THE WORKBENCH? Ben.

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread ben
On 6/8/2015 4:18 PM, William Donzelli wrote: It's pretty rare. I have one too. I've seen and heard of more straight 8s than I have 8/S PDP-8/Ss used to be quite rare, but they have been popping out of the woodwork for some time now. I would venture to say they are now more extant that Straight

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread COURYHOUSE
yea Will... things that fit under the workbench can languish for 40 years... if it has to sit on top it may a a shorter lifespan Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 6/8/2015 3:18:35 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, wdonze...@gmail.com writes: > It'

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread COURYHOUSE
n Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > Original message > From: ben > Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Front Panel Update > > On 6/8/2015 12:28 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: >> Theres an 8/f which repl

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread William Donzelli
> It's pretty rare. I have one too. > > I've seen and heard of more straight 8s than I have 8/S PDP-8/Ss used to be quite rare, but they have been popping out of the woodwork for some time now. I would venture to say they are now more extant that Straight-8s. Small is survivability. PDP-8/S was

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Kyle Owen
For those that haven't seen both of the 8/Ms, here they are in the same rack, in as-found condition: http://i.imgur.com/c9Dntqv.jpg The color difference between an 8/F and 8/M seems more than just subtle color variations between paints. The 8/M has two shades of orange, whereas the 8/F seems to ha

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread COURYHOUSE
2:26:07PM -0700, couryhouse wrote: >> >> >> 8s is rare?? We have one. Is there a an registry? Ed# smecc.org >> >> >> Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone >> >> Original message ---- >> From: ben >> Da

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Mike Ross
n Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > Original message > From: ben > Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Front Panel Update > > On 6/8/2015 12:28 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: >> Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a simi

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread COURYHOUSE
ok! I knew they came 'toggless' but never saw one...mine had / has togs! I still have a m or an f up in my study ( I forget which...) been up on a shelf for 20 years probably should give it to the SMECC to go with the other 8's I gave them. I am going to make a

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 8, 2015, at 14:52 , Mark J. Blair wrote: > > >> On Jun 8, 2015, at 14:00 , couryho...@aol.com wrote: >> >> I have seen M with all toggles... > > I've seen one in my machine room, right next to my VAX. :) Oh, and I should have mentioned that it was removed from some sort of CNC sti

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 8, 2015, at 14:00 , couryho...@aol.com wrote: > > I have seen M with all toggles... I've seen one in my machine room, right next to my VAX. :) -- Mark J. Blair, NF6X http://www.nf6x.net/

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 12:26:07PM -0700, couryhouse wrote: 8s is rare?? We have one. Is there a an registry?Ed# smecc.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: ben Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) To: cctalk@classiccm

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-06-08 21:16, Kyle Owen wrote: On Jun 8, 2015 2:28 PM, "Rod Smallwood" wrote: Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a similar front panel with extra markings The 8/m - OEM no front panel The 8/I has different front panel The 8/A is a totally different box altogether The 8/e wa

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread COURYHOUSE
I have seen M with all toggles... In a message dated 6/8/2015 12:16:57 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time, kylevo...@gmail.com writes: On Jun 8, 2015 2:28 PM, "Rod Smallwood" wrote: > > Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a similar front panel with extra markings > The 8/m - OEM n

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread COURYHOUSE
> > Original message > From: ben > Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Front Panel Update > > On 6/8/2015 12:28 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > Theres an 8/f which replaced the 8/e and has a sim

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
ouse wrote: > >8s is rare?? We have one. Is there a an registry? Ed# smecc.org > > > > > >Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > > > Original message > >From: ben > >Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) > >To

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone > > Original message > From: ben > Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) > To: cctalk@classiccmp.org > Subject: Re: Front Panel Update > > On 6/8/2015 12:28 PM, Rod Smallwood wrote: > > Theres an 8/f whic

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread Rod Smallwood
: 8s is rare?? We have one. Is there a an registry? Ed# smecc.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: ben Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Front Panel Update On 6/8/2015 12:28 PM, Rod

Re: Front Panel Update

2015-06-08 Thread couryhouse
8s is rare??   We have one.  Is there a an registry?   Ed#  smecc.org Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: ben Date: 06/08/2015 12:05 PM (GMT-07:00) To: cctalk@classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Front Panel Update On 6/8/2015 12:28 PM

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