Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-13 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Jan 12, 2022, at 11:23 PM, Rob Jarratt via cctalk wrote: > > I love an excuse to buy a tool. I think *good* tools are always a worthwhile > investment. After a buying a tool that I think I will only use once, I tend > to find other uses for it over time. Maybe you will find yourself needing t

RE: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-12 Thread Rob Jarratt via cctalk
> > The hot tweezer sounds very nice but I think I'll stick with what I have for > now. These machines have other problems and won't ever do anything > useful unless I get the cache issues sorted out so I don't necessarily want to > invest in new tools for them to end up not getting them repaired

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 17:28:33 -0600 Richard Schauer via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2022, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: They do have spikes of solder sticking out from the positive ends Yes, those are tantalum caps. The "hat" as I've always called it marks the positive end, and it shoul

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-12 Thread Maciej W. Rozycki via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022, Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: > > Thanks Jon. > > > > Here is a badly focused picture of the suspect components: > > > > http://www.beyondthepale.ie/cctech/p1010198.jpg > > WOW, I don't know what those are!  They look like big ceramic caps to me, but > if they don't have any

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 19:30:58 +, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 11:02:47 -0600 Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 1/11/22 5:17 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Thanks Jon. Here is a badly focused picture of the suspect components: http://www.beyondthepale.ie/ccte

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-12 Thread Richard Schauer via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: They do have spikes of solder sticking out from the positive ends Yes, those are tantalum caps. The "hat" as I've always called it marks the positive end, and it should be part of the case, so it won't melt away in solder. These things ar

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 11:02:47 -0600 Jon Elson wrote: On 1/11/22 5:17 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Thanks Jon. Here is a badly focused picture of the suspect components: http://www.beyondthepale.ie/cctech/p1010198.jpg WOW, I don't know what those are!  They look like big ceramic ca

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-12 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
On Wed, 12 Jan 2022 at 11:02:47 -0600 Jon Elson via cctalk wrote: On 1/11/22 5:17 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Thanks Jon. Here is a badly focused picture of the suspect components: http://www.beyondthepale.ie/cctech/p1010198.jpg WOW, I don't know what those are!  They look like big

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-12 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 1/11/22 5:17 PM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: Thanks Jon. Here is a badly focused picture of the suspect components: http://www.beyondthepale.ie/cctech/p1010198.jpg WOW, I don't know what those are!  They look like big ceramic caps to me, but if they don't have any polarity marking,

RE: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-11 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
Thanks Eugene. Perhaps I should have more clearly stated that whatever short was there cleared itself pretty much as soon as it happened, leaving no evidence of where it it had been and nothing to go on to locate it. There is no sign of anything getting hot afterwards. The machine still seems to

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-11 Thread Peter Coghlan via cctalk
On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 13:57:07 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: On 1/11/22 10:40 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: I have a rackmount DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver containing a H7816-BA power supply which doesn't work. As I mentioned before, this power supply is a real pig to work on. I also have two tablet

RE: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-11 Thread W2HX via cctalk
A bad tant will show 0V across it and it will show 0V (or very close to it) across all the other tants used as filter caps on that same rail. I would turn it back on and measure all of your rails. See which is affected. Then pull out every card in the system that uses that rail (probably all car

Re: DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver problems

2022-01-11 Thread Jon Elson via cctalk
On 1/11/22 10:40 AM, Peter Coghlan via cctalk wrote: I have a rackmount DEC 3000/600 Alphaserver containing a H7816-BA power supply which doesn't work. As I mentioned before, this power supply is a real pig to work on. I also have two tabletop DEC 3000/600 Alphaservers which contain H7816-AA po