Re: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-19 Thread Mattis Lind
> > A line of thought for consideration, with the usual disclaimer: I've seen > these (VT100) supplies before but I haven't had to repair one, > the following is based only on a cursory purview of the schematic. > > Let's look at some of the design nature of the supply. > > All the outputs extract

Re: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-19 Thread Brent Hilpert
On 2016-Aug-17, at 1:48 AM, Mattis Lind wrote: > Normally I manage to repair the SMPSU that I dive into. But this time I > must admit that I am defeated. > > It is a VT100 PSU (H7831). I tested it with dummy loads and it worked fine. > But when used in the terminal with the Basic Video board and m

Re: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-17 Thread j...@cimmeri.com
On 8/17/2016 1:19 PM, tony duell wrote: More load _reduces_ the ripple? That's very unusual. Perhaps a parasitic oscillation that's defeated by more load because now the loop gain is below 1? But loading the +5V output also reduces the ripple on the +12V output. Loading the +5V output would,

RE: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-17 Thread tony duell
> > > More load _reduces_ the ripple? That's very unusual. > > Perhaps a parasitic oscillation that's defeated by more load > because now the loop gain is below 1? But loading the +5V output also reduces the ripple on the +12V output. Loading the +5V output would, I think, vary the mark-space rat

Re: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-17 Thread Paul Koning
> On Aug 17, 2016, at 2:07 PM, tony duell wrote: > > >> When I used a variable load on the 12V both the amplitude and the period >> varied. More load less amplitude. > > More load _reduces_ the ripple? That's very unusual. Perhaps a parasitic oscillation that's defeated by more load because n

RE: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-17 Thread tony duell
> When I used a variable load on the 12V both the amplitude and the period > varied. More load less amplitude. More load _reduces_ the ripple? That's very unusual. > Added the AVO option. Then I have perfect picture. So the extra loading > makes a difference. But that mostly loads the +5V line.

Re: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-17 Thread Mattis Lind
> It's certainly an odd one... > > There are several things that are curious. The first is the frequency > of the waveform. 329Hz or so according to your 'scope (assuming > I am reading it right). That is far too high to be mains ripple. It is too > low to be the oscillator in the SMPSU. So where i

RE: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-17 Thread tony duell
> Normally I manage to repair the SMPSU that I dive into. But this time I > must admit that I am defeated. > > It is a VT100 PSU (H7831). I tested it with dummy loads and it worked fine. > But when used in the terminal with the Basic Video board and monitor board > it gives a jumpy picture. Both

Re: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-17 Thread Mattis Lind
2016-08-17 11:14 GMT+02:00 Peter Coghlan : > > > > It is a VT100 PSU (H7831). I tested it with dummy loads and it worked > fine. > > But when used in the terminal with the Basic Video board and monitor > board > > it gives a jumpy picture. Both horizontally and vertically. First I > thought > > th

Re: Beaten by VT100 PSU.

2016-08-17 Thread Peter Coghlan
> > It is a VT100 PSU (H7831). I tested it with dummy loads and it worked fine. > But when used in the terminal with the Basic Video board and monitor board > it gives a jumpy picture. Both horizontally and vertically. First I thought > that it was related to the monitor board but soon recognised t