Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-04 Thread Greg Stark
It's not the currency that matters though, but where they ship from. I'm guessing by the €3.25 shipping that they're probably doing from somewhere in the EU but I don't see offhand where they say that. On 2 Jun 2016 16:38, "Jerry Weiss" wrote: > > > On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Greg Stark wrote:

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-02 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > Any idea which vendor to buy from to get an "open" part, how to preserve the > > firmware / settings on what you get if you wish to modify it as an open > > product? The above is pretty nasty for the vendor of an open product, and > > I think I'll be buying from someone else. > > > > The US

RE: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-02 Thread Dave Wade
sm...@jwsss.com > Subject: Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Toby Thain > wrote: > > Big +1 to inertialcomputing! > > > Hm, any vendors inside the EU? This is above the threshold where I would have > to deal with VAT payable if I order it from outside. > > -- > greg

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-02 Thread Jerry Weiss
> On Jun 2, 2016, at 9:20 AM, Greg Stark wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Toby Thain wrote: >> Big +1 to inertialcomputing! > > > Hm, any vendors inside the EU? This is above the threshold where I > would have to deal with VAT payable if I order it from outside. > > -- > greg Fro

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-02 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, Toby Thain wrote: > Big +1 to inertialcomputing! That's where I bought mine. I just checked > the correspondence about it and I notice that the seller was very > accommodating and helpful. I just got one yesterday. It should arrive by Monday. I had a bunch of special instruc

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-02 Thread Greg Stark
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Toby Thain wrote: > Big +1 to inertialcomputing! Hm, any vendors inside the EU? This is above the threshold where I would have to deal with VAT payable if I order it from outside. -- greg

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-02 Thread Toby Thain
On 2016-06-02 2:49 AM, Glen Slick wrote: On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:19 PM, jwsmobile wrote: Any idea which vendor to buy from to get an "open" part, how to preserve the firmware / settings on what you get if you wish to modify it as an open product? The above is pretty nasty for the vendor of

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Glen Slick
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:19 PM, jwsmobile wrote: > > > Any idea which vendor to buy from to get an "open" part, how to preserve the > firmware / settings on what you get if you wish to modify it as an open > product? The above is pretty nasty for the vendor of an open product, and > I think I'l

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Don North
On 6/1/2016 10:19 PM, jwsmobile wrote: On 6/1/2016 4:52 PM, Mike Ross wrote: The advantages of the SCSI2SD over the ACard are as follows: > >1) It's open-source (hardware and firmware and software) >2) The developer is extremely responsive to bug reports / feature requests >3) It's very flexib

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread jwsmobile
On 6/1/2016 4:52 PM, Mike Ross wrote: The advantages of the SCSI2SD over the ACard are as follows: > >1) It's open-source (hardware and firmware and software) >2) The developer is extremely responsive to bug reports / feature requests >3) It's very flexible -- you can make it look like any driv

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Mike Ross
On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 8:53 AM, Josh Dersch wrote: > The advantages of the SCSI2SD over the ACard are as follows: > > 1) It's open-source (hardware and firmware and software) > 2) The developer is extremely responsive to bug reports / feature requests > 3) It's very flexible -- you can make it lo

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/06/2016 23:51, Swift Griggs wrote: Does anyone have such a beast and can share a model # ? If they are cheap enough, I'd replace my current crapola 1X external "ace in the hole" CDROM with it. My hang-up has always been the block size issue. Most Toshibas respond to the command, so prett

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Thu, 2 Jun 2016, pete wrote: > AAT. 2048 bytes is the common CDROM standard, used by PCs and their > ilk, whereas SGIs want 512-byte blocks on CDROMs. Ah, quite right. Thanks, Pete. > Some SGIs/IRIX versions (eg Indy and later, running IRIX 5.3 or later) > will issue a command to make the C

cdrom block size - WAS::::Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Kemp
+1 Most early Sun equipment required 512 block size also. Not that I am casting doubt, but I am unaware of anything that required 2048 block size for optical devices. If you have a workstation or server that required 2048 block size for optical media, please share! That is the great thing

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread pete
On 01/06/2016 23:29, Swift Griggs wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Josh Dersch wrote: it can support multiple drives on a single board, pretend to be a CD-ROM, etc, etc, etc. 4) It's considerably cheaper. That's an excellent feature that I'm sure would come in handy, especially if it can emulate a C

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/06/2016 22:05, Jerry Kemp wrote: I still remember when I had my first 600G (not GR) that got upgraded to (3) 327 Mb drives. I was very excited that I had *just shy* of 1 Gig of hard disk storage space available. When I bought my SGI Indy, I swallowed hard and specced a 1GB drive for it,

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Josh Dersch wrote: > The advantages of the SCSI2SD over the ACard are as follows: Heh, I just ordered one. I'll test it vis-a-vis the ACARD device and post my results here and on Nekochan where I originally posted about the ACARD adapter. > 1) It's open-source (hardware and

Acard - WAS::Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Kemp
Thanks for the link. I wasn't aware of the Acard device. I guess I should extend my question, so, does anyone have an Acard HDD replacement in their AT&T 3b2? If so, how is it working out for you? Jerry On 06/ 1/16 01:03 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote: I w

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Jerry Kemp
Absolutely. If I had an IRIX box right now, it would be spinning rust or an SSD. One day I hope to have a Crimson and a Fuel. Any 3b2 is going to be significantly slower. I still remember when I had my first 600G (not GR) that got upgraded to (3) 327 Mb drives. I was very excited that I ha

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Swift Griggs wrote: > On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Not so slow that it's awful on an Indy (apart maybe from booting), but > > noticeably slower than people expect on faster machines. The ACARD ones > > seem to be faster. Perhaps it won't matter fo

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Pete Turnbull wrote: > Not so slow that it's awful on an Indy (apart maybe from booting), but > noticeably slower than people expect on faster machines. The ACARD ones > seem to be faster. Perhaps it won't matter for older machines. The Acard device is @250 bucks. It appear

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/06/2016 18:36, Jerry Kemp wrote: We have recently had activity on the list discussing AT&T 3b2 related stuff, then earlier today we have had discussions concerning the SCSI2SD drive replacement hardware. I was reviewing the online documentation for SCSI2SD, specifically here: Wondering

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 1 Jun 2016, Jerry Kemp wrote: > I was reviewing the online documentation for SCSI2SD, specifically here: > > and I specifically see that the AT&T 3B2/600 is supported. I neither have a AT&T 3B2 nor a SCSI2SD. Sorry. I do however, h

Re: AT&T 3b2 vs SCSI2SD drive replacement

2016-06-01 Thread Josh Dersch
On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > We have recently had activity on the list discussing AT&T 3b2 related > stuff, then earlier today we have had discussions concerning the SCSI2SD > drive replacement hardware. > > I was reviewing the online documentation for SCSI2SD, specificall