Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: > >> I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe >> using enterprise level ones. >> Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 >>

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
In cases where the source remains available, in case of problems, nothing can beat it for sneaker-net. It does not contribute noticeably to the transfer speeds. On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote: You're one of the first people I've heard quote that. Do you know where that is s

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe using enterprise level ones. Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 months if unpowered... any more time means being lucky. Would suck to save, s

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
You're one of the first people I've heard quote that. Do you know where that is said? Years ago several friends and myself all picked up 64mb usb thumb drives so we could have multiple backups of a game and few other projects we were coding.  Maybe it was an extended period of time (we ended up

R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe using enterprise level ones. Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 months if unpowered... any more time means being lucky. Would suck to save, store, and after some years find the data mangled