Re: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Brad Parker
On 11/30/15 3:34 PM, Jay West wrote: Alternatively, TSS looks nice, but I am not sure that the full OS was ever found and is available? Hardware Reqs? It's been found. http://www.heeltoe.com/index.php?n=Cpus.Pdp8Tss-8 The core o/s can be rebuilt from scratch and run in several forms. I did a

Re: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Al Kossow
On 11/30/15 2:20 PM, Rich Alderson wrote: I'm told by a former operator of one that TSS/8 will also run on an 8/e, but I don't have independent confirmation that that is so. It did. The University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee's system was an 8/e with custom mods that let you store files on an

RE: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Rich Alderson
From: Jay West Sent: Monday, November 30, 2015 12:34 PM > I would love to see some comparison between ETOS and MULTOS by anyone "in the > know". I'd just like a nice timeshareing system for my 8E that is close to > OS/8 and runnable with the hardware I have. > Alternatively, TSS looks nice, but I

RE: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Jay West
Glen wrote... -- If you have a 2113B and a 2117F could you use those as a base? What are the magic parts? Some special and rare interconnect boards? And a special and rare async mux? And particular disc requirements? -- 2113/2117 - yes. Off the top of my head For 2000E, you can get

Re: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
Jay - yes I know and for hardware sales too. as I sold and troubleshot what I used and needed all the time in house so it was a perfect match. eventually the only DEC stuff that was there was in museum displays in the other suite the museum occupied. Ed# In a message d

Re: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Glen Slick
On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Jay West wrote: > Rick wrote > --- > I'd *LOVE* to be able to have a real-hardware HP Timeshared BASIC system > running here, but alas, those are a lot harder to come by than DEC stuff > --- > Contact me off-list :) > > J If you have a 2113B and a 211

Re: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-30 21:34, Jay West wrote: Johnny wrote... Fun stuff. However, I do not expect you'll see much impovement in performance in ETOS compared to MULTOS. You'll gain if you have code that do CIF n, followed by much code before the JMP/JMS, but that is

RE: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Jay West
Johnny wrote... Fun stuff. However, I do not expect you'll see much impovement in performance in ETOS compared to MULTOS. You'll gain if you have code that do CIF n, followed by much code before the JMP/JMS, but that is not exactly a common pattern in most P

Re: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Johnny Billquist
On 2015-11-30 19:26, Rick Bensene wrote: Hi, all, Just figured I'd post something about my tinkering yesterday. I got an M8830 from Paul Anderson. This is the crystal-contolled clock for the Omnibus PDP 8 machines. Yesterday, I had a chance to try it out. First, I checked the power supply pin

Re: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
somewhere i have an edu system book. HA! yea the fixed head drives made better swapping media! for tss 8 as core was small in those days! In a message dated 11/30/2015 12:03:12 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim, ri...@bensene.com writes: Ed wrote: > when I was young in the computer

RE: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Jay West
Rick wrote --- I'd *LOVE* to be able to have a real-hardware HP Timeshared BASIC system running here, but alas, those are a lot harder to come by than DEC stuff --- Contact me off-list :) J

RE: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Jay West
Ed wrote... --- when I was young in the computer biz wanted to build a timeshare 8 system.. however ended up going down the HP route instead for the rest of my career . --- You chose the better path for a timesharing system *ducks & runs* J

RE: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Rick Bensene
Ed wrote: > when I was young in the computer biz wanted to build a timeshare 8 > system.. > however ended up going down the HP route instead for the rest of my > career . > There was also something called TSS-8 as I remember. Ed# I'd *LOVE* to be able to have a real-hardware HP Timeshare

Re: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread COURYHOUSE
when I was young in the computer biz wanted to build a timeshare 8 system.. however ended up going down the HP route instead for the rest of my career . There was also something called TSS-8 as I remember. Ed# _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org) In a message dated 11/30/2015

RE: PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Jay West
FYI - in the not too distant future I'm going to get back to my 8E rig. I'll be pulling out the TU10/TM11(unused, obviously) from the second cabinet and putting in an RX01 and RK05, and hopefully connecting up the TU56 and PC04 that are in the main cabinet. In any case, my goal is to run ETOS on t

PDP 8 Timesharing

2015-11-30 Thread Rick Bensene
Hi, all, Just figured I'd post something about my tinkering yesterday. I got an M8830 from Paul Anderson. This is the crystal-contolled clock for the Omnibus PDP 8 machines. Yesterday, I had a chance to try it out. First, I checked the power supply pins to make sure no shorts or anything like t