Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration - failure modes

2020-03-30 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 3:43 PM Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk wrote: > In restoring my PDP-8/s, diodes were the problem. Turns out they have > steel leads that rust. Easy to see with a microscope. > Badly rusted ones broke the glass body. Good to know. My PDP-8/S was stored indoors but my Straight-8

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-30 Thread Josh Dersch via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 1:48 PM Brendan McNeill via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending > more time on our computers, if that were possible. I have just completed > the restoration of a PDP-8 Straight 8 which I believe i

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration - failure modes

2020-03-30 Thread Bob Rosenbloom via cctalk
On 3/30/2020 12:02 PM, Josh Dersch via cctech wrote: On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 1:48 PM Brendan McNeill via cctech < cct...@classiccmp.org> wrote: Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending more time on our computers, if that were possible. I have just completed the r

Re: Fortran (Was Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration) (Resubmitting without attachment)

2020-03-30 Thread geneb via cctalk
On Mon, 30 Mar 2020, Chuck Guzis via cctalk wrote: I was preparing to make the leap and buy my first personal computer--a PDP-8/E back in the day. The attraction was not just the low price of around $5000, but the fact that there was FORTRAN available for it. DEC made a big deal of that in th

Re: Fortran (Was Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration) (Resubmitting without attachment)

2020-03-30 Thread Chuck Guzis via cctalk
I was preparing to make the leap and buy my first personal computer--a PDP-8/E back in the day. The attraction was not just the low price of around $5000, but the fact that there was FORTRAN available for it. DEC made a big deal of that in their promotions. Wrote an emulator for it (in FORTRAN,

Re: Fortran (Was Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration) (Resubmitting without attachment)

2020-03-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Since we are all at home exchanging stories, I thought I would regale you with my best punch card one: My first job out of school was at Bell Canada in  Downtown Toronto. I was trained as an FE on their Univac 418 II systems that ran a Canada-wide store-and-forward MSDS - Message Switching Dat

Re: Fortran (Was Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration)

2020-03-30 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Since we are all at home exchanging stories, I thought I would regale you with my best punch card one: My first job out of school was at Bell Canada in  Downtown Toronto. I was trained as an FE on their Univac 418 II systems that ran a Canada-wide store-and-forward MSDS - Message Switching Dat

Re: Fortran (Was Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration)

2020-03-30 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:31:56AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:13 AM Diane Bruce wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:33:35PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:10 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk < > > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > > wrote: > > > > > ... .

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-30 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 8:13 AM Diane Bruce wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:33:35PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:10 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> > > wrote: > > > ... > > > > He was lucky the card deck was in order. One of my first jobs was to r

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-30 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:33:35PM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:10 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk > wrote: > ... > > He was lucky the card deck was in order. One of my first jobs was to read > in old, horrible FORTRAN IV from punch card, then check it against a > listing the bo

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Richard Pope via cctalk
Diane, Very nicely done. I read the whole thing. GOD Bless and Thanks, rich! On 3/29/2020 3:59 PM, Diane Bruce via cctech wrote: On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:47:51AM +1300, Brendan McNeill via cctech wrote: Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending more time on

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Marc Howard via cctalk
Nigel, I first learned assembly on a straight-8. Also learned about repair with the same machine (1974). As for fun time wasters back then there was a DECUS paper tape that could compute n! up to 200! exactly. I remember that I could start it before lunch, come back, and then about 15 minutes l

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 5:10 PM Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:59:42PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > > Brings back memories! My first 6800 cross assembler came to me as 2000 > > Fortran source code punch cards. We had an F4R4 compiler on the PDP11 but > > the

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Randy Dawson via cctalk
. Hi Diane. Still Cadence here, signal integrity work for space From: cctalk on behalf of Diane Bruce via cctalk Sent: Sunday, March 29, 2020 4:09 PM To: Nigel Johnson ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoratio

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020 at 05:59:42PM -0400, Nigel Johnson via cctalk wrote: > Brings back memories!  My first 6800 cross assembler came to me as 2000 > Fortran source code punch cards. We had an F4R4 compiler on the PDP11 but > the card reader was on the PDP-8. Funny how the kids don't realise Fortr

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Nigel Johnson via cctalk
Brings back memories!  My first 6800 cross assembler came to me as 2000 Fortran source code punch cards. We had an F4R4 compiler on the PDP11 but the card reader was on the PDP-8. The only common peripheral was paper tape.  One night, the Chief Engineer and I fed the cards into the PDP8 card r

PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Brendan McNeill via cctalk
Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending more time on our computers, if that were possible. I have just completed the restoration of a PDP-8 Straight 8 which I believe is the only one in New Zealand. You can view the restoration story and find appropriate resourc

Re: PDP-8 Straight 8 restoration

2020-03-29 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Mon, Mar 30, 2020 at 09:47:51AM +1300, Brendan McNeill via cctech wrote: > Here in NZ and around the world many of us are in lockdown and spending more > time on our computers, if that were possible. I have just completed the > restoration of a PDP-8 Straight 8 which I believe is the only one