RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-31 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
Ok well I have checked and it looks like Lyndon is on the yahoo MTS list, but his mail supplier may be filing as spam. Umm ... his email supplier is him. I've been running my own mail servers since the early 1980s. If anything is getting bounced, it's because my email servers

RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-31 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Ok well I have checked and it looks like Lyndon is on the yahoo MTS list, but his mail supplier may be filing as spam. Dave > -Original Message- > From: Lyndon Nerenberg [mailto:lyn...@orthanc.ca] > Sent: 01 January 2018 00:13 > To: Dave Wade > Cc: 'General Discussi

RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-31 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
Lyndon, Seeing as the folks who set up the original distribution are on the Yahoo list it's the best place to ask questions. I assume you don't want to set up a Yahoo account? Facebook perhaps? I did fight my way thought the Yahoo interface to get onto at least one of the MTS grou

RE: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Dave Wade via cctalk
Lyndon, Seeing as the folks who set up the original distribution are on the Yahoo list it's the best place to ask questions. I assume you don't want to set up a Yahoo account? Facebook perhaps? Dave (I think I own the yahoo H390-MTS group but its been quiet for ages) > -Ori

Re: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
o neat On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Brent Hilpert via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > On 2017-Dec-30, at 6:26 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > > > mts??? > > > > as in manitoba telcome services now known as bellmts?? > > > > No, M

Re: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Brent Hilpert via cctalk
On 2017-Dec-30, at 6:26 PM, Adrian Stoness via cctalk wrote: > mts??? > > as in manitoba telcome services now known as bellmts?? No, Michigan Terminal System. A timesharing system for IBM 360/370 series mainframes, used and maintained at a number of universities from the late 60

Restoring MTS *FS distribution tapes onto a UNIX system

2017-12-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
The answer to my previous question lives in the source code. The D6.0A MTS distribution doesn't have the source on disk, so the files need to be extracted from the *FS tapes. On an MTS system, that's a pain in the ass. Given the DRIVER file from the distribution, has anyone tried

Re: Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Adrian Stoness via cctalk
mts??? as in manitoba telcome services now known as bellmts??

Non-Yahoo MTS Mailing Lists

2017-12-30 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg via cctalk
Are any of you aware of an MTS mailing list that lives outside of the execrable Yahoo groups environment? And if not, is there any interest in starting one? Meanwhile, if there are any MTS hacks on the list, I have a question: When running *SAV or *SVW, what are the labels the system is

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread Sean Caron
Dennis is correct, the MTS source and binary tapes were released to the public a few years back and the URL he quotes is the hub for everything MTS. If you want to spin up an instance yourself from scratch, I wrote a little tutorial some time ago that will distill down the installation

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread jwsmobile
d a couple of the groups (how I found pointers to the VM six-pack). But the Yahoo Groups interface is so repulsive as to be unusable (by me, anyway). --lyndon They have the MTS system working, and you can peruse the group messages w/o joining via their web, just google h390-mts and go to

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread Mike Alexander
--On August 10, 2015 at 2:13:56 PM -0700 Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Source is included in the tapes. If the SHOW bits to which you refer were shared amongst the consortium, and predate the release of D6.0, they're quite likely in there somewhere. SHOW was Keith Fenske's personal account at the

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread John Wilson
On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 02:13:56PM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: >probably sucked down more student CPU soft dollars You mean "MT$". John

RE: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Lyndon > Nerenberg > Sent: 10 August 2015 22:16 > To: jwsm...@jwsss.com; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: MTS > > > I didn't se

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
I didn't see that you had posted to any of the yahoogroups Hercules groups, and you may be lurking, but wanted to mention them. I can post all of the hercules groups or send them offline if you need. I'm aware of them, and have scanned a couple of the groups (how I found pointers to the VM si

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
You may want to look at: http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/ By sheer coincidence, I happened across that site this morning. Very useful! Source is included in the tapes. If the SHOW bits to which you refer were shared amongst the consortium, and predate the release of D6.0, they

RE: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread Dave G4UGM
> -Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of John > Wilson > Sent: 10 August 2015 22:05 > To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Subject: Re: MTS > > On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 01:24:41PM -0700, L

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread John Wilson
ributions >don't contain an assembler. I assume you're saying that the real MTS sites bought *ASMH back in the old days, not that it's possible for mere mortals to buy a license for home emulator use nowadays at a finite price? I'd love to be wrong (and I'd gladly pay four

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread jwsmobile
On 8/10/2015 1:24 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: There have been a few references to MTS over the past couple of months that led me to suspect people are running it under Hercules. I did some poking around a while back and managed to find some tape images (bitsaver, I think), and did some

Re: MTS

2015-08-10 Thread Dennis Boone
The UMich guys have made available images of tapes from many MTS releases. Not all releases are complete. They've also provided a built system of D6.0 (1986? -87?) with all the further changes it was running just before shutdown in the 90s. (No tape images for this version yet.) You may

MTS

2015-08-10 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
There have been a few references to MTS over the past couple of months that led me to suspect people are running it under Hercules. I did some poking around a while back and managed to find some tape images (bitsaver, I think), and did some cursory reading of the release notes. I think there