Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-06 Thread Alexander Schreiber via cctalk
On Thu, Jan 04, 2018 at 06:38:10PM -0800, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, TeoZ wrote: > >Hard drives NEVER keep up. Bragging about how many DVD's (90's technology) > >you can store on current HD means little to people who have ultra HD > >Blueray videos that take up to 100GB of s

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 1:13 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: > >> I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe >> using enterprise level ones. >> Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 >>

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
In cases where the source remains available, in case of problems, nothing can beat it for sneaker-net. It does not contribute noticeably to the transfer speeds. On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Sam O'nella via cctalk wrote: You're one of the first people I've heard quote that. Do you know where that is s

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Fri, 5 Jan 2018, Mazzini Alessandro wrote: I'm not sure I would use SSD for long term "secure" storage, unless maybe using enterprise level ones. Consumer level SSD are, by specifics, guaranteed to retain data for 6 months if unpowered... any more time means being lucky. Would suck to save, s

Re: R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Sam O'nella via cctalk
You're one of the first people I've heard quote that. Do you know where that is said? Years ago several friends and myself all picked up 64mb usb thumb drives so we could have multiple backups of a game and few other projects we were coding.  Maybe it was an extended period of time (we ended up

R: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-05 Thread Mazzini Alessandro via cctalk
s find the data mangled... -Messaggio originale- Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Fred Cisin via cctalk Inviato: venerdì 5 gennaio 2018 03:38 A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Oggetto: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown On Thu, 4 Jan 2018,

Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Eric Smith via cctalk
On Jan 4, 2018 22:17, "TeoZ via cctalk" wrote: 100GB M-Discs are dual layer BlueRay media correct (not readable on a DVD player)? I actually have a BDXL BR burner. They are three-layer, and will ONLY work on BDXL drives, not older BD drives.

Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread dwight via cctalk
, January 4, 2018 9:16:43 PM To: Fred Cisin; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown 100GB M-Discs are dual layer BlueRay media correct (not readable on a DVD player)? I actually have a BDXL BR burner. I also have the M-Disc capable

Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread TeoZ via cctalk
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, TeoZ wrote: Hard drives NEVER keep up. Bragging about how many DVD's (90's technology) you can store on current HD means little to people who have ultra HD Bluer

Re: Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Alexandre Souza via cctalk
Files grew up in size, in an unbelieable scale. I follow the tips of my friends: Buy new HDs and use old ones for storage. I have a 5TB (expensive) external 3 1/2 HD on my home server, and some 1TB HDs used as backups. If you count capacity, cheaper than DVDs-DL or BDs. Em 05/01/2018 00:38,

Large discs (Was: Spectre & Meltdown

2018-01-04 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 4 Jan 2018, TeoZ wrote: Hard drives NEVER keep up. Bragging about how many DVD's (90's technology) you can store on current HD means little to people who have ultra HD Blueray videos that take up to 100GB of space. Heck even a single game download can be 50GB these days. I'd be intere