Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-16 Thread geneb
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016, r.stricklin wrote: Hooleon does/did. For other keyboards as well. "For availability and pricing contact Hooleon Sales" Translation: "We don't stock this stuff so don't bother us." g. -- Proud owner of F-15C 80-0007 http://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. http:

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-16 Thread Mark J. Blair
> On Jun 16, 2016, at 10:32 , Earl Baugh wrote: > > I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key? > That's all I've gotten from Unicomp... That's how I got all of the "blank" > caps from... Yes, I think that most of the keys on the Unicomp keyboard I bought a year or so ago were two-p

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-16 Thread r.stricklin
Hooleon does/did. For other keyboards as well. ok bear. -- Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 16, 2016, at 11:41, geneb wrote: > > > Does anyone other than Unicomp make different key caps?

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-16 Thread geneb
On Thu, 16 Jun 2016, Earl Baugh wrote: From: Swift Griggs On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote: I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses. I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO. I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key? That's all

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-16 Thread Earl Baugh
From: Swift Griggs On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote: > I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses. I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO. I'm puzzled, what do you mean two part? Cap and key? That's all I've gotten from Unicomp... That's how I

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-16 Thread Liam Proven
On 16 June 2016 at 13:25, Peter Corlett wrote: > My teetering pile of junk^W Fine Legacy Equipment that requires some TLC > includes a dead Unicomp Model M where some of the legends have clearly worn > away. The user admits to putting it through the dishwasher at least twice, > having apparently d

RE: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-16 Thread Electronics Plus
A 7/32" or 5.5mm socket or nutdriver will do the job nicely. -Original Message- From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Peter Corlett Sent: Thursday, June 16, 2016 6:25 AM To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Subject: Re: Keyboards and the Mo

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-16 Thread Peter Corlett
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 09:17:01AM -0700, Christopher Satterfield wrote: > Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a lot > of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any wear > on the legends. My teetering pile of junk^W Fine Legacy Equipment

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-15 Thread Swift Griggs
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, geneb wrote: > I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses. I wish ALL keyboards did that... it's a superior design, IMHO. -Swift

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-15 Thread geneb
On Wed, 15 Jun 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote: Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any wear on the legends. I just wish the Unicomp keys were two-part keys like the Model M uses.

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-15 Thread Christopher Satterfield
Unicomp keys are still done using dyesub PBT, same as IBMs. Still takes a lot of effort to wear it down, I don't recall ever seeing a board with any wear on the legends.

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-13 Thread geneb
On Mon, 13 Jun 2016, Chuck Guzis wrote: On 06/01/2016 07:12 AM, geneb wrote: It's called a "double-shot" key. There's two injection molds used for each key. I recall contacting the people at Unicomp to ask about their keys, and received the answer that no, they were not double-shot, but las

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-13 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 06/01/2016 07:12 AM, geneb wrote: > It's called a "double-shot" key. There's two injection molds used > for each key. I recall contacting the people at Unicomp to ask about their keys, and received the answer that no, they were not double-shot, but laser-engraved and should be very durable.

Re: Model M Key Cap Replacement WAS: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread Guy Dawson
On my 1992 IBM Model M most of the key caps are removable but some are not. Notably, wider keys such as Backspace, Enter and the big + on the numeric pad don't have removable caps. They're like the Unicomp Wide Keys. On 1 June 2016 at 14:52, geneb wrote: > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Christopher Satte

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread geneb
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: On May 31, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: I used one enough to have worn a visible depression in the space bar with my right thumb. I still have a few of the keyboards around. Another thing I love about the WASD keyboards. Because the le

Re: Model M Key Cap Replacement WAS: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-06-01 Thread geneb
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote: Unicomp still sells replacement caps ( http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons ), however I believe they have a minimum order amount (price). There are also the ever-so-hated keyboard forums where you can often post a "Looking for" and

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread John Willis
> > I only use Model M keyboards. I have one for my Linux box, one for my > Mac, and one for the office Mac. I have about five more sitting in the > closet of the home office on standby, and I think I have a box of keyboards > in storage. I have a couple of Model M boards, and a Unix layout U

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> On May 31, 2016, at 5:38 PM, Pete Turnbull wrote: > > Yet I had a colleague whose keyboard was made with all-blank caps. Very > interesting when he needed help, or got me to demonstrate a problem - which > luckily were very rarely. My other Cherry keyboard I love is some sort of "gaming" m

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Pete Turnbull
On 01/06/2016 01:17, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: Another thing I love about the WASD keyboards. Because the lettering is molded all the way through the keycap, I can't wear the letters off. Agreed, it's the only way to make them... I'm not that good of a touch typist that I can work with a blank

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
> On May 31, 2016, at 5:10 PM, Chuck Guzis wrote: > > I used one enough to have worn a visible depression in the space bar > with my right thumb. I still have a few of the keyboards around. Another thing I love about the WASD keyboards. Because the lettering is molded all the way through the

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Chuck Guzis
On 05/31/2016 04:31 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > The only sane modern keyboards are the WASD 'CODE' series. I have > the 87 key model: > > http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard/code-87-key-mechanical-keyboard-mx-green.html > > As someone who has spent years pounding on

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
>> >> Hehe, I use my Model M mostly with SGI's that have PS/2 ports. So, I'm >> right there with you. The only sane modern keyboards are the WASD 'CODE' series. I have the 87 key model: http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/products/code-keyboard/code-87-key-mechanical-keyboard-mx-green.h

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Sean Conner
It was thus said that the Great Swift Griggs once stated: > On Tue, 31 May 2016, Peter Coghlan wrote: > > > It might be interesting to poll the list to see who's still using an IBM > > > Model M keyboard on their x86 box. I am. > > > Windows key? What Windows key? ;) > > > > x86 box? What x86 bo

Re: Model M Key Cap Replacement WAS: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Christopher Satterfield wrote: > Unicomp still sells replacement caps ( > http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons ), however I believe they > have a minimum order amount (price). There are also the ever-so-hated > keyboard forums where you can often post a "Looking for"

Re: Model M Key Cap Replacement WAS: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Christopher Satterfield
Unicomp still sells replacement caps ( http://www.pckeyboard.com/page/category/Buttons ), however I believe they have a minimum order amount (price). There are also the ever-so-hated keyboard forums where you can often post a "Looking for" and find someone with some spares they'll dump dirt cheap o

Model M Key Cap Replacement WAS: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Ali
While on the subject anyone know where one can buy replacement key caps?  -Ali

Re: Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Swift Griggs wrote: > 1. The Logitech Orion Spark G910 with Romer-G switches > 2. The CM Storm Quickfire Pro with MX Blue switches > 3. The Razer Blackwidow with green switches Ahhh, and my anti-keyboard list. These three are supposed to be wonderful. I found them not-so-muc

Keyboards and the Model M (was Re: NEC ProSpeed 386)

2016-05-31 Thread Swift Griggs
On Tue, 31 May 2016, Peter Coghlan wrote: > > It might be interesting to poll the list to see who's still using an IBM > > Model M keyboard on their x86 box. I am. > > Windows key? What Windows key? ;) > > x86 box? What x86 box? ;) Hehe, I use my Model M mostly with SGI's that have PS/2 ports.