Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-19 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
On 11/17/2021 8:49 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 11/17/21 3:10 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: Disk images have been sent to Al. I assume he will eventually upload them to Bitsavers when he has time to do so... uploaded to http://bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/floppyimages/RT11-V05.01.Z

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-19 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Thu, 18 Nov 2021, it was written On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 3:15 AM Christian Corti via cctalk Our Tektronix 4051 can talk to and use Commodore IEEE floppy drives for mass storage. It has a custom ROM extension for it. That's really cool. There are a few non-Commodore systems that were able t

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-18 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 3:15 AM Christian Corti via cctalk wrote: > On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, Ethan Dicks wrote: > > ... The IBV11 can certainly keep up with the > > 6502 in the drive that's banging out the IEEE-488 protocol. > > Our Tektronix 4051 can talk to and use Commodore IEEE floppy drives for >

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-18 Thread Christian Corti via cctalk
On Wed, 17 Nov 2021, Ethan Dicks wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:09 PM Christian Gauger-Cosgrove I kind of want to see now if an IBV11 and Commodore 1541 can be abused into cooperating. I think it could be done. The IBV11 can certainly keep up with the 6502 in the drive that's banging out th

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-17 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/17/21 3:10 PM, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: Disk images have been sent to Al. I assume he will eventually upload them to Bitsavers when he has time to do so... uploaded to http://bitsavers.org/bits/DEC/pdp11/floppyimages/RT11-V05.01.ZIP

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-17 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 2:58 PM Toby Thain via cctalk wrote: > > On 2021-11-16 1:25 p.m., Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:23 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk > > wrote: > >> > >> I'm going by the 'Instrument Bus Subroutines Programmer's Reference > >> Manual' that is on bit

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-17 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 6:09 PM Christian Gauger-Cosgrove wrote: > On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 16:27, Ethan Dicks via cctalk > wrote: > ... I have experience with IEEE-488 from my many hours > > spent with Commodore PETs. > > > Hmm now that I'm reminded that a large proportion of Commodore's > "stuff"

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-17 Thread Sytse van Slooten via cctalk
Hi, Did you think of running MINC basic? That would almost certainly work, even if you don't have any other MINC cards in your machine. Most elegant of course if you'd run the complete floppy image (to be found on Bitsavers), but I'd bet it will also just work if you extract the q4szmx.sav fro

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, Christian Gauger-Cosgrove via cctalk wrote: Hmm now that I'm reminded that a large proportion of Commodore's "stuff" was IEEE 488 or a serialized version thereof. Was that called "IEC"? I kind of want to see now if an IBV11 and Commodore 1541 can be abused into cooperatin

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Christian Gauger-Cosgrove via cctalk
On Tue, 16 Nov 2021 at 16:27, Ethan Dicks via cctalk wrote: > Fun card. Thanks for starting this thread. I have one too (came with > my MINC-11) and I have experience with IEEE-488 from my many hours > spent with Commodore PETs. > Hmm now that I'm reminded that a large proportion of Commodore's

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Toby Thain via cctalk
On 2021-11-16 1:25 p.m., Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:23 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: I'm going by the 'Instrument Bus Subroutines Programmer's Reference Manual' that is on bitsavers. [/pdf/dec/pdp11/minc] In section 4, page 4-1 it seems to imply that there ar

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Ethan Dicks via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 11:01 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > In my pile of DEC computer stuff I have a DEC qbus IBV11 IEEE-488 > controller board (M7954) with cable (BN11-A) that connects to the GPIB bus. Fun card. Thanks for starting this thread. I have one too (came with my MINC-11) an

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
Excellent, now I don't have to dig into that particular project tomorrow :P Thanks, Jonathan ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 at 13:25, Glen Slick via cctalk wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:23 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk > > cctalk@classiccmp.org wrote: > >

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 9:23 AM Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > > I'm going by the 'Instrument Bus Subroutines Programmer's Reference > Manual' that is on bitsavers. [/pdf/dec/pdp11/minc] In section 4, page > 4-1 it seems to imply that there are 6 files: > > IBLIB.OBJ > IBSVER.FOR > IBMNC.SYS

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
I'm going by the 'Instrument Bus Subroutines Programmer's Reference Manual' that is on bitsavers. [/pdf/dec/pdp11/minc]  In section 4, page 4-1 it seems to imply that there are 6 files: IBLIB.OBJ IBSVER.FOR IBMNC.SYS IBNMNC.SYS IBXMNC.SYS IBXNMC.SYS I think that's it.  *.OBJ is a library to li

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Aaron Jackson via cctalk
> In my pile of DEC computer stuff I have a DEC qbus IBV11 IEEE-488 > controller board (M7954) with cable (BN11-A) that connects to the GPIB bus. > > It would be interesting to try this out, but I don't have the DEC > 'Instrument Bus Subroutines' that work under RT-11. Does anyone have > this packa

Re: IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Jonathan Chapman via cctalk
I should have them in my MINC-23 stuff. If you can figure out which distribution diskette they're on, I can make you an image or copy. Thanks, Jonathan ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On Tuesday, November 16th, 2021 at 11:01, Douglas Taylor via cctalk wrote: > In my pile of DEC computer stu

IEEE-488 on the PDP-11

2021-11-16 Thread Douglas Taylor via cctalk
In my pile of DEC computer stuff I have a DEC qbus IBV11 IEEE-488 controller board (M7954) with cable (BN11-A) that connects to the GPIB bus. It would be interesting to try this out, but I don't have the DEC 'Instrument Bus Subroutines' that work under RT-11.  Does anyone have this package?  O