Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread dwight via cctalk
I have had an interest in the 4004 for a number of years. I've acquired a SIM4-01 that I've used over the years to read and program 1702A EPROMs. I've recently also located a copy of Tom Pittman's resident 4004 assembler. Quite remarkable when you realize that that it was a complete two pass ass

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2021-11-16 5:08 p.m., jim stephens via cctalk wrote: On 11/16/2021 2:20 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? no I got interested in microprogramming  before it was hijacked as a

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2021-11-16 4:41 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: Yes, there were prior machines, but the 4004 is ARGUABLY the first successful commercial mass-produced one. There were others, from TI, Fairchild, Four-Phase?, etc. As usual, the label "FIRST" is questionable due to whether we count announc

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread jim stephens via cctalk
On 11/16/2021 2:20 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? no I got interested in microprogramming  before it was hijacked as a a term for such devices.  It's generous at best to appl

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2021-11-16 4:18 p.m., Will Cooke via cctalk wrote: On 11/16/2021 4:35 PM Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: As for microprocessors, there are MANY MANY micros that preceded the PC. Pretty sure "PC" meant "Politically Correct." Will I believe in free speech, not "Politically Correct". The

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2021-11-16 3:33 p.m., William Donzelli via cctalk wrote: Best, most concise answer of the week. -- Will On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 5:20 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? no For

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Tue, 16 Nov 2021, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? For ME, hearing about the 4004 was the first solid assurance that tabletop computers would become available. I heard some mentions of it from cow- orkers at Goddard Space Flight Ce

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread Will Cooke via cctalk
> On 11/16/2021 4:35 PM Mike Katz via cctalk wrote: > > > As for microprocessors, there are MANY MANY micros that preceded the PC. > Pretty sure "PC" meant "Politically Correct." Will

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread Mike Katz via cctalk
As for microprocessors, there are MANY MANY micros that preceded the PC. You can find a list here:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microprocessor_chronology The 8088 is a late comer to the microprocessor world. On 11/16/2021 4:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Did the 4004 chip start

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread William Donzelli via cctalk
Best, most concise answer of the week. -- Will On Tue, Nov 16, 2021 at 5:20 PM Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: > > On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? > > no > >

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Nov 16, 2021, at 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: > > Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? It is 50 today. > Classic computing begins earlier but for the masses, if they could be > called that in the early seventies, this was it. I hesitate in calling it > the f

Re: I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
On 11/16/21 2:08 PM, Murray McCullough via cctalk wrote: Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? no

I-4004

2021-11-16 Thread Murray McCullough via cctalk
Did the 4004 chip start our interest in microcomputing? It is 50 today. Classic computing begins earlier but for the masses, if they could be called that in the early seventies, this was it. I hesitate in calling it the first microprocessor as pc'ers will object. Happy computing all. Murray 🙂