Re: HP 5061-6565 scsi loopback plug

2018-07-09 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 5:44 PM, Glen Slick wrote: > > (The earlier Feb 91 second edition version of the 12016-90001 manual > on Bitsavers does include the DDL Diagnostic Program Chapter 7, which > has the Table 7-2. Loopback Test Panel Configuration) I mean to type that the Feb 91 second edition

Re: HP 5061-6565 scsi loopback plug

2018-07-09 Thread Glen Slick via cctalk
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 12:53 PM, Sven Schnelle via cctalk wrote: > > I'm actually the one who asked Al about this test hood. It seems like > it's a SCSI connector that connects the control lines to the data lines. > I've added some code which emulates this in software and the ROM said > 'test hood

Re: HP 5061-6565 scsi loopback plug

2018-07-09 Thread Guy Sotomayor Jr via cctalk
Yea, it would have to be more than just a terminator as it would have to reflect back some of the control signals to the “ack” equivalents otherwise the controller would just see a bus with no devices on it. Presumably, the controller also has a “loopback” mode so that all the signals (includin

Re: HP 5061-6565 scsi loopback plug

2018-07-09 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 07/09/2018 12:33 PM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: No, it is specifically mentioned in the HP test tools manual 09800-90001 page II-82. Interesting. Thank you for correcting me. -- Grant. . . . unix || die

Re: HP 5061-6565 scsi loopback plug

2018-07-09 Thread Sven Schnelle via cctalk
On 07/09/2018 08:27 PM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > On 07/09/2018 11:58 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: >> Someone working on simulating the scsi DIO board in MAME asked me >> about the scsi loopback test plug. Anyone ever seen one? Is it just >> wires or are there active parts doing the loop

Re: HP 5061-6565 scsi loopback plug

2018-07-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
No, it is specifically mentioned in the HP test tools manual 09800-90001 page II-82. On 7/9/18 11:27 AM, Grant Taylor via cctalk wrote: > I've never heard of loopback related to SCSI.  I have seen many external > terminators that someone may miss-identify as a > loopback because it seems quite

Re: HP 5061-6565 scsi loopback plug

2018-07-09 Thread Grant Taylor via cctalk
On 07/09/2018 11:58 AM, Al Kossow via cctalk wrote: Someone working on simulating the scsi DIO board in MAME asked me about the scsi loopback test plug. Anyone ever seen one? Is it just wires or are there active parts doing the loopback? I've never heard of loopback related to SCSI. I have se

HP 5061-6565 scsi loopback plug

2018-07-09 Thread Al Kossow via cctalk
Someone working on simulating the scsi DIO board in MAME asked me about the scsi loopback test plug. Anyone ever seen one? Is it just wires or are there active parts doing the loopback?