ctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Re: HP 2108A key
I never found on ein the key stash I ordered 2 off ebay
one to use...
one to loose!
Ed#
In a message dated 1/16/2018 3:19:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Tim Riker via c
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, dwight via cctalk wrote:
You know that one can always remove the pins from the lock and then any key
of the right diameter will work. It won't be original but it will work.
MOST of such locks (called "cam lock") have a standardized mounting,
although the "cam"/latch bar ma
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, dwight via cctalk wrote:
You know that one can always remove the pins from the lock and then any
key of the right diameter will work. It won't be original but it will
work.
Most any real lock smith can make a key for you if you give him the
lock. The ones on the HPs are n
wight
From: cctalk on behalf of Ed Sharpe via cctalk
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:31:26 PM
To: ci...@xenosoft.com; cctalk@classiccmp.org; cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: Re: HP 2108A key
I never found on ein the key stash I ordered 2 off ebay
one to use...
o
I never found on ein the key stash I ordered 2 off ebay
one to use...
one to loose!
Ed#
In a message dated 1/16/2018 3:19:11 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Tim Riker via cctalk wrote:
> Did this get resolved? I have an HP-21
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018, Tim Riker via cctalk wrote:
Did this get resolved? I have an HP-2108A with key as pictured here:
https://rikers.org/gallery/hardware-hp2108a/20050415_132446
Nice pictures of a 2108A !
But no pictures of the key, (which has been worked out)
om/Oldtech/
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From cctalk@classiccmp.org Mon Sep 25 18:21:35 2017
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2017 17:21:27 -0400
From: Dennis Boone via cctalk
Reply-To: Dennis Boone , "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
Subject: Re:
On 09/21/2017 08:52 AM, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Mike Loewen via cctalk wrote:
>> Mike Thompson at the RICM is going to look for a number on the key
>> for their 2108A, this weekend.
>
> Ask if he can snap a few good close-up pictures of it. While
> measurement from a
he "1000" rebranding. Then the 21 MX
became 1000M, and my 21 MX E-series became an HP 1000E.
Marc
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:03 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: R
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Sent: Monday, September 25, 2017 6:03 PM
To: cctalk@classiccmp.org
Subject: Re: HP 2108A key
The 2007 can be bought on ebay. It also is the Microdata 1600, Reality and
other standard key. I carry one on my k
well. do not see any 2007
so bought one incase the 1000 is the one that uses that one.
easier than driving back to the building.
however. I did find a but ofother HP keys even some ace
style?
found my open the 2645 thingis my hp 1000 beltbuckle ( bif g bronze
t
On 9/25/2017 1:46 PM, Mike Loewen via cctalk wrote:
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Sam O'nella wrote:
Should be easy but my mobile google fu is failing. Didn't Jay and a
few
others know if a vintage computer key database/site somewhere?
Would t
> If/when you get around to it, start by sorting by blank.
Good thought.
> On the double-sided Chicago keys, if you have an extra that matches
> H2007, send one to Dennis to use as a "master" for subsequent demand.
Not necessary, as I have a full set of pattern keys.
I'd be interested in a c
> The tricky bit to cutting them is that when Chicago designed them, they
> developed several hundred unique curves instead of a set of numbered cut
> depths. However, manufacturers of numerical key machines have worked it
> out, probably by pretending there are a large number of cut positions.
C
OK thanks for the advice! ...
Ed# www.smecc.org
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On Monday, September 25, 2017 Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote:
> FANTASTIC -!
> I still need to triage the shoe boxes too-
If/when you get around to it, start by sorting by blank.
O
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Ed via cctalk wrote:
FANTASTIC -!
I still need to triage the shoe boxes too-
If/when you get around to it, start by sorting by blank.
On the double-sided Chicago keys, if you have an extra that matches H2007,
send one to Dennis to use as a "master" for subsequent demand.
Thank you Dennis, we are likely to need your help often.
On Mon, 25 Sep 2017, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
The tricky bit to cutting them is that when Chicago designed them, they
developed several hundred unique curves instead of a set of numbered cut
depths. However, manufacturers of numeric
> I received a key that was made based on the Chicago Lock H2007 key in
> Christian's picture:
> It works!
> I've asked our resident keymaster to post any specifications needed
> to duplicate this key.
The key is an H2007. This is one of the Chicago double-sided types.
The keyblank is an I
FANTASTIC -!
I still need to triage the shoe boxes too-
Ed#
In a message dated 9/25/2017 1:47:00 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
I received a key that was made based on the Chicago Lock H2007 key in
Christian's picture:
http://computermuseum.informatik.
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Christian Corti via cctalk wrote:
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Sam O'nella wrote:
Should be easy but my mobile google fu is failing. Didn't Jay and a few
others know if a vintage computer key database/site somewhere? Would that
possibly have or benefit from getting afterwards? n
Thanks for the link Fred. $10 for the key - worth a try. I'll get it and report
if it works.
Marc
On Sep 22, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
H2007 - double sided Chicago key, brass, in a 21MX in the pictures
http://www.ebay.com/itm/322652408202 (seller shows same picture for s
dnesday, September 20, 2017 4:13 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Subject: Re: HP 2108A key
>
> Well, I don't think you checked with *this* Jay. ;)
>
> Would the key from an HP 2112B likely work? It looks very much like the
> 2108A, jus
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote:
The correct cuts for the 4T1427 are 7241 read bow to tip.
Some manufacturers (Schlage) stamp the cuts on the key.
Some, in order to make that information "secure", reverse the sequence
(slightly less secure that ROT-13). But, mustn't reveal
> Unmarked - single sided in an HP 1000 M-series; looks like a cheap
> generic cam lock, may be a post-sale replacement lock (due to too
> many keys extant, or the boss wandered off with the key) It is
> definitely NOT a match for either of the keys that Dennis described.
> Cuts from bow to tip lo
mystery keys on my keychain... I used to
work with HP 1000 systems.
I still have one of the HP 264x 'keys' which opened up the terminal.
From: "cctalk"
To: "cctalk"
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:20:42 PM
Subject: Re: HP 2108A key
> Unmarked - sing
To: "cctalk"
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:20:42 PM
Subject: Re: HP 2108A key
> Unmarked - single sided in an HP 1000 M-series; looks like a cheap
> generic cam lock, may be a post-sale replacement lock (due to too
> many keys extant, or the boss wandered off with t
Well, that explains one of my mystery keys on my keychain... I used to work
with HP 1000 systems.
I still have one of the HP 264x 'keys' which opened up the terminal.
From: "cctalk"
To: "cctalk"
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 1:20:42 PM
Subject: Re: HP 2
> Unmarked - single sided in an HP 1000 M-series; looks like a cheap
> generic cam lock, may be a post-sale replacement lock (due to too
> many keys extant, or the boss wandered off with the key) It is
> definitely NOT a match for either of the keys that Dennis described.
> Cuts from bow to ti
Christian wrote
---
In total, there are three different keys used on the 21MX, 1000M and
1000E/F.
---
On Fri, 22 Sep 2017, Jay West via cctalk wrote:
Ug... no. There are not 3 different keys used. And for the record, the 1000M
and 1000E/F are *ALL* 21MX's, at least in the end. They
Christian wrote
---
In total, there are three different keys used on the 21MX, 1000M and
1000E/F.
---
Ug... no. There are not 3 different keys used. And for the record, the 1000M
and 1000E/F are *ALL* 21MX's, at least in the end. They are also all
"1000's" in the end as well :> But 21M
On 21 September 2017 at 19:59, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> We can sit on the front porch, waving our canes, and yelling at the kids to
> get off of the lawn.
Well quite.
> And continue to rant about the decline in education, software quality, and
> users, such as email clients that don't ev
OK that is helpful! I can look though the box and have something to
compare with!
For the purpose of finding a match for Mike's 2018 is that a single
sided or double sided key Mike ( or others knowing)
the HP MX Processor MXthat was contributed to SMECC is thinner than the
on
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Sam O'nella wrote:
Should be easy but my mobile google fu is failing. Didn't Jay and a few
others know if a vintage computer key database/site somewhere? Would
that possibly have or benefit from getting afterwards? null
Ok, I went into our storage and made some pics:
http:
Should be easy but my mobile google fu is failing. Didn't Jay and a few others
know if a vintage computer key database/site somewhere? Would that possibly
have or benefit from getting afterwards?
null
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Liam Proven wrote:
I am finding it increasingly difficult to curb my curmudgeonliness as
I approach 50.
50 was relatively easy.
I think I must glumly conclude that there is basically nowhere that it
is safe to air it, and I must be constantly vigilant to rein it in.
We
Most of the time processors came in whole and got sold out as
parts..
The 2 things that always seemed left overwere keys and carcass!
Ed#
In a message dated 9/21/2017 10:25:38 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
> > > I used to come home after
> > I used to come home after a hard day with computers and if I had
> > weird keys 30 plus years ago they went into a box or plastic bag..
> So, YOU are the guy who always walked off with the keys at the end of
> the day, and never brought them back.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, couryho...@aol.com wro
Excuse me? I owned the company!
My Company... my keys..
and in those days there were lots of them!
How funny!
Ed#
In a message dated 9/21/2017 9:15:14 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
cctalk@classiccmp.org writes:
On 21 September 2017 at 18:02, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
>
On 21 September 2017 at 18:35, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
> We all do it.
> I have my share of random keys from random unknown sources.
Sure, me too.
> There are plenty of things that I have no clue about.
> Some of which I would like to learn, and might or might not ever make the
> effort to
We all do it.
I have my share of random keys from random unknown sources.
There are plenty of things that I have no clue about.
Some of which I would like to learn, and might or might not ever make the
effort to do so; and some that I don't want to know.
In the 1970s, between "the collapse of
On 21 September 2017 at 18:02, Fred Cisin via cctalk
wrote:
>
> On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Ed Sharpe via cctalk wrote:
>>
>> I dunno what all thathe means
>
>
> Q: Do you WANT to know what all thathe means?
>
>> I am offering to
>> .look thru shoe box of keys I Ave one if the thin mx processors do not
>
> The CCL 4T1427 key, which is NOT what Mike needs, would be cut on an
> Ilco S1003A blank, cuts 1427 bow-to-tip.
>
> The CAT99 key I see referenced in the list archives (might open a cab
> back door) would be on an Ilco S1000V, cuts 5 bow-to-tip.
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Ed Sharpe via cctalk w
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Mike Loewen via cctalk wrote:
Mike Thompson at the RICM is going to look for a number on the key
for their 2108A, this weekend.
Ask if he can snap a few good close-up pictures of it. While measurement
from a picture isn't reliable, it doesn't have to be, if the picture
Mike Thompson at the RICM is going to look for a number on the key for
their 2108A, this weekend.
Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
Old Technology http://q7.neurotica.com/Oldtech/
On Thu, 21 Sep 2017, Dennis Boone via cctalk wrote
EEEK! bad cell phone typing!
OK anyway I was under the assumption that the hp keys would have a
certain number on them depending on what they fit?
If I am wrong then unless I have a photo this group of old keys
will be of no use.
Just a thought. Ed#
In a message da
I dunno what all thathe means I am offering to
.look thru shoe box of keys I Ave one if the thin mx processors do not
temember what number but I know Keyes not in it... I used to come home after a
hard day with computers and if I had weird keys 30 plus years ago they went
into a box or plastic
If we can id the Chicago double-sided key Mike _does_ need, I can
probably make it.
The CCL 4T1427 key, which is NOT what Mike needs, would be cut on an
Ilco S1003A blank, cuts 1427 bow-to-tip.
The CAT99 key I see referenced in the list archives (might open a cab
back door) would be on an Ilco S1
ed on the newer power supplies and E-series.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay Jaeger
> via cctalk
> Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 4:13 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
> Su
ptember 20, 2017 4:13 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: HP 2108A key
Well, I don't think you checked with *this* Jay. ;)
Would the key from an HP 2112B likely work? It looks very much like the
2108A, just a tad larger (more cards). I have an HP 2112B, and it ha
4:13 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: HP 2108A key
Well, I don't think you checked with *this* Jay. ;)
Would the key from an HP 2112B likely work? It looks very much like the
2108A, just a tad larger (more cards). I have an HP 2112B, and it has
its key.
lies and E-series.
-Original Message-
From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Jay Jaeger via
cctalk
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 4:13 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: HP 2108A key
Well, I don't think you checked
Well, I don't think you checked with *this* Jay. ;)
Would the key from an HP 2112B likely work? It looks very much like the
2108A, just a tad larger (more cards).I have an HP 2112B, and it has
its key.
See a photo at :
http://webpages.charter.net/thecomputercollection/hp/hp2112b.htm
The k
Does anyone have a key for a HP 2108A? This is one of the original
21MX M-series machines. The key is NOT the same as for the E and F-series
machines.
I already checked with Jay.
Mike Loewen mloe...@cpumagic.scol.pa.us
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