Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-15 Thread James Vess
> >> > > Once upon a time, a place I was working for decided to get a new > >> > > development > >> > > as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one > >> side)... > >> > > and the shipping original ibm box upped the wei

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-15 Thread Christian Corti
On Thu, 14 Apr 2016, Yvan Janssens wrote: Also, DD won't work on those disks; you'll have to use sg_utils and use raw SCSI commands to dump the disks. Linux DD uses the system calls to read block devices, and interestingly enough, they only support multiples of 512b for sector size on that. Dump

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread Noel Chiappa
> From: Dave Wade > just as a program in virtual memory can be spread across any location > of physical memory, a "file" on an AS/400 can be spread across any > number of disk sectors on any drive Yes, but the same thing is basically true of most conventional file systems, e.g. va

R: Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread supervinx
Yes. I had an AS/400 disk with too many grown defects. I imaged it with sg_utils and transferred the content back to an identical disk. It booted flawlessly...

RE: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread Mike Ross
I agree little point in imaging. First step: password guess; try logging in to account QSECOFR password QSECOFR; you may luck out and find it is the default. If that fails do a DST IPL (Google it) and use the DST QSECOFR account (NOT the same as the system QSECOFR account!) to reset the system QS

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread supervinx
Well, I removed quite a lot of QSECOFR passwords... Try to boot in manual mode, 01 B M and follow this... http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=nas8N1019462 Resetting QSECOFR with an Attended IPL Hoping that DST password is still QSECOFR/QSECOFR (usually it is so)

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread Yvan Janssens
can see in windows/unix/vms. > > Moreover there are high chances of being on hw raid > > > > -Messaggio originale- > > Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org ] Per > conto di Sam O'nella > > Inviato: giovedì 14 aprile 2016 15:48 > > A: General Discu

RE: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread Dave Wade
Original Message- > From: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Mazzini > Alessandro > Sent: 14 April 2016 15:24 > To: 'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts' > > Subject: R: Getting an ibm as/400 > > I really doubt that it can

R: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread Mazzini Alessandro
viato: giovedì 14 aprile 2016 15:48 A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 Not sure about mounting the drive and reading the filesystem properly (not much bad could happen from trying) but that gives you the opportunity to back it up (dd)

RE: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Get the SLIC cd (or tape), and do a D-mode manual IPL. Reinstall (DO NOT select the option to install and initialize). This is generally referred to as "slipping the LIC". You can re-install it without trashing the OS. That'll get you into DST, where you can reset the password. What version o

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread devin davison
Original message From: devin davison < > lyokob...@gmail.com> Date:04/13/2016 10:57 PM (GMT-06:00) > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" < > cctalk@classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 > > The size of two pc towers. I am t

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-14 Thread Sam O'nella
ubject: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 The size of two pc towers. I am trying to figure out how to log in. I tried the account qsecofr with pass qsecofr with no luck. I might actually have a licenced os on this thing, it is very different from anything i have worked with before. Not sure really where

R: Re: R: Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread supervinx
I installed also the Windows servers :)

Re: R: Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
Great teardown, now I don't need to do it myself :) On Thu, Apr 14, 2016 at 07:26:49AM +0200, supervinx wrote: > http://www.supervinx.com/OnlineMuseum/IBM/AS400/9406/170/

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
ed to get a new > >> > > development > >> > > as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one > >> side)... > >> > > and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king > >> kong. > >> > >

R: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread supervinx
You can'read the disks elsewhere: you can only image them with sg_utils. Sector formatting is not 512 and they are grouped in pools by OS/400. How many disks you have? Main pool has not been wiped, may be more than one disk...

R: Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread supervinx
http://www.supervinx.com/OnlineMuseum/IBM/AS400/9406/170/

R: Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread supervinx
So they changed the default sec officer pwd (root in *nix). You have to boot in manual mode B M (not B N) and cross your fingers that DST pwd is still QSECOFR/QSECOFR. Then there's a way to reset the QSECOFR pwd.

Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread devin davison
ment >> > > as/400. The toy was 2x the 270 you mentioned (hd cage taking one >> side)... >> > > and the shipping original ibm box upped the weight to dunno... king >> kong. >> > > It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max wei

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread devin davison
box upped the weight to dunno... king > kong. > > > It didn't fit in the elevator, and anyway exceeded the max weight. > > > > > > The office was 2 floors up > > > > > > We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares > > > >

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Pontus Pihlgren
boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Kevin > > Monceaux > > Inviato: mercoledì 13 aprile 2016 21:09 > > A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > > Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian P

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Chris Halarewich
x weight. >> >> The office was 2 floors up >> >> We pushed it up, I still have the nightmares >> >> -----Messaggio originale- >> Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Kevin >> Monceaux >> Inviato: mercoledì 13 aprile

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread devin davison
3 aprile 2016 21:09 > A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts > Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T wrote: > > > > In IBM-speak, it's

R: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Mazzini Alessandro
getto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T wrote: > > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange." > > Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size". That's

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 01:26:29AM -0400, Ian Primus wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T wrote: > > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange." > > Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size". That's the truth. In a previous reply I mentioned I have a "small" 9406-270 in my

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Eric Christopherson
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 2:46 PM, devin davison wrote: > some drives had to be destroyed. I believe it is coming from > Harris, so it makes sense. > What Harris is this? The one that made machines running Vulcan OS? -- Eric Christopherson

RE: Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Benjamin Huntsman
Posts Subject: R: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 Well... AS/400 scsi drives are recognized by the string IBM AS/400, during the inquiry phase. They can be used in a standard PC, if reformatted at 512 bytes/sector, since OS/400 use 520 bytes/sector. If they come unformatted or degaussed, you can reformat

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 13, 2016, at 11:31 AM, supervinx wrote: > > Well... AS/400 scsi drives are recognized by the string IBM AS/400, during > the inquiry phase. > They can be used in a standard PC, if reformatted at 512 bytes/sector, since > OS/400 use 520 bytes/sector. > If they come unformatted or degau

R: Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread supervinx
Well... AS/400 scsi drives are recognized by the string IBM AS/400, during the inquiry phase. They can be used in a standard PC, if reformatted at 512 bytes/sector, since OS/400 use 520 bytes/sector. If they come unformatted or degaussed, you can reformat it at 520 under a *nix system with sg_ut

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Paul Koning
> On Apr 13, 2016, at 10:30 AM, devin davison wrote: > > I called in again yesterday night, still not ready to pick up though. The > guy assured me the drives were being wiped not removed, which is good. You should check what "wiped" means. If they mean "degauss" as in running the drives over

R: Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread supervinx
Even if your time is expired (there are some hacks to avoid this...) you can log into the system as user QSECOFR through the console (terminal 0 on twinax line 0). For an hobbyistic use sometimes it's enough...

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread Yvan Janssens
Hi Devin, I myself have several hobbyist machines, and I know a few other people who do. The 70 day timebomb is set by the OS and the different software packages you install. So, let's say, you install the OS, the development tools and Client Access. Each of them will have their own 70 day time b

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-13 Thread devin davison
I called in again yesterday night, still not ready to pick up though. The guy assured me the drives were being wiped not removed, which is good. How does the whold 70 day licence thing work. Is that a specific limitation to os/400 or built into the hardware of the machine itself?

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread Ian Primus
On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Jason T wrote: >> An AS/400 is a mini, not a mainframe. > In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange." Which is a fancy word for "unusually heavy for its size". -Ian

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread Jason T
On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > An AS/400 is a mini, not a mainframe. In IBM-speak, it's a "Midrange."

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread Mike Ross
On Apr 12, 2016 9:59 PM, "Kevin Monceaux" wrote: > Depending on its vintage it would run OS/400, i5/OS, or IBM I > Post-1998 or so machines will also run Linux Mike

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread Kevin Monceaux
Devin, On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 02:09:00PM -0400, devin davison wrote: > A local recycling center called me and said they are to pick up an ibm > as/400 mainframe from a working environment. An AS/400 is a mini, not a mainframe. > I left a deposit and am scheduled to go pick it up in the next da

R: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread Mazzini Alessandro
Posts Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 Yeah i wanted to talk directly with the place it is coming from but they are being very secretive and swear that all the drives have to be wiped. they said some drives had to be destroyed. I believe it is coming from Harris, so it makes sense. Still trying t

Re: R: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread devin davison
ere's just os/400 that can be installed on an as/400, forget linux or etc > ( if an iseries, more recent, aix is also an option, and linux too ) > > > > -Messaggio originale- > Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Matt > Patoray > Inviato: ma

Re: R: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread Mike Ross
linux too ) -Messaggio originale- Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Matt Patoray Inviato: martedì 12 aprile 2016 20:52 A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 Hello, I do believe Connor is on here. I will say this the IBM Main

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread devin davison
t can be installed on an as/400, forget linux or > etc ( if an iseries, more recent, aix is also an option, and linux too ) > > > > -Messaggio originale- > Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Matt > Patoray > Inviato: martedì 12 aprile 2016 20:

R: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread Mazzini Alessandro
nale- Da: cctalk [mailto:cctalk-boun...@classiccmp.org] Per conto di Matt Patoray Inviato: martedì 12 aprile 2016 20:52 A: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Oggetto: Re: Getting an ibm as/400 Hello, I do believe Connor is on here. I will say this the IBM Mainframes and the Larg

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread devin davison
​Gotcha. i didn't want something interesting to get away so i kinda reserved it without knowing exactly what it is yet. I will post back with the model, thanks.

R: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread supervinx
Check cards and get all the cables. They are somewhat hard to find if you miss something... Messaggio originale Da: devin davison Data:12/04/2016 20:09 (GMT+01:00) A: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" Oggetto: Getting an ibm as/400 A local

Re: Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread Matt Patoray
Hello, I do believe Connor is on here. I will say this the IBM Mainframes and the Large AS/400's are quite different. If you can get a picture of the front plate where it says AS/400 there will be the model nuimber under that and we can figure out what you have from that. Once you have that info,

Getting an ibm as/400

2016-04-12 Thread devin davison
A local recycling center called me and said they are to pick up an ibm as/400 mainframe from a working environment. I left a deposit and am scheduled to go pick it up in the next day or so. I am not even sure of what all it comes with or what can be run on the machine. Any advice in advance on wha